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crispy86
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confused about test results with bunk police...
#18728714 - 08/19/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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so...i ordered the combo kit (ehrlich, marquis, and mandolin)
tested: blotter with ehrlich
results: purple (positive for indoles and most likely LSD)
tested: same blotter in marquis to check for adulterants
results: negative (no color)...BUT, after sitting there for 30 min...it turned purple...is that just the dye from the blotter?...cuz it's colored and there is definitely purple ink on the blotter
tested: moon rock (suspected MDMA) with marquis
results: turned neon yellow mixed with neon orange (hard to tell what it is)...BUT after sitting there for 30 min it turned to purple, meaning positive for MDMA...i'm confused
tested: same moon rocks in mandelin
results: neon yellow then neon orange/dark orange/brown...it was a mix of colors...after sitting for 30 min...it's now dark purple...meaning positive for MDMA
sooo...my main question is regarding how to interpret test results...do i look at the colors as the change during the 5sec, 15 sec, 30 sec intervals?...or do i wait to see what the color is after like 30 minutes?
i just want to know what i have...the bunk police kit seems hard to match the colors up on the chart because at the beginning there is a mix of colors...it could be a number of things
anybody with experience please help me out
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Re: confused about test results with bunk police... [Re: crispy86]
#18728749 - 08/19/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Based on my (limited) experience using reagents, I think your LSD is probably good, and your MDMA is probably not. When I tested MDMA it very quickly turned dark purple with Marquis.
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Re: confused about test results with bunk police... [Re: crispy86]
#18728751 - 08/19/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Your marquis instantly turned yellow meaning your moon rocks are likely methylone or mephedrone. your blotter turned purple on erlich's black on marquis after no instant reaction; sounds like lsd.You study the reactions for the first 15 seconds and follow the color wheel according to the changes after 5,10 and 15 seconds respectively.
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Re: confused about test results with bunk police... [Re: ShroomDoom]
#18729172 - 08/19/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Test results are almost instantaneous. Any results past a minute are useless. Your moon rocks are bunk.
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Re: confused about test results with bunk police... [Re: afrogus]
#18729282 - 08/19/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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afrogus said: Test results are almost instantaneous. Any results past a minute are useless. Your moon rocks are bunk.
i agree. tested blotter twice and it instantly turned purple. tested it with marquis too and it was clear (negative for adulterants). definitely LSD
as far as the moon rocks go, i tested twice with marquis and mandelin. it turned neon yellow instantly on both, and ended up dark yellow/orange (on marquis) and dark amber/reddish (kinda like robitussin or something) on mandelin. i don't know what the rocks are, but definitely NOT MDMA. what confuses me is that once the rock sits in the marquis and mandelin for a couple minutes, it turns purple, but then i tilt the tube and look up at the light and it looks dark red amber...bunk i assume
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Re: confused about test results with bunk police... [Re: crispy86]
#18729310 - 08/19/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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what's interesting is that i ingested the moon rocks at a phish show prior to testing because i got it from a friend of a friend, and it did NOT taste bitter. it tasted salty and bearable to hold under my tongue. it took a while to kick in. i felt really good. it was tactile and moderately visual, euphoric, and had empathogen qualities. i have NO idea what it is. we all agreed that it made us sweat A LOT thought. otherwise it seemed to be a very clean experience, no jaw clenching, no harsh come-up. no come-up at all actually.
i'm gonna get rid of it. i don't like to mess with something that i'm not sure what it is, even though i already tried it and had a great time
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Re: confused about test results with bunk police... [Re: crispy86]
#18729510 - 08/19/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Salty taste..yellow on marquis..definitely sounds like methylone. There seems to be a lot of moonrock testing as methylone recently.
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Re: confused about test results with bunk police... [Re: ShroomDoom]
#18729752 - 08/19/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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ShroomDoom said: Salty taste..yellow on marquis..definitely sounds like methylone. There seems to be a lot of moonrock testing as methylone recently.
interesting...is methylone bad? obviously it had no harm, as my friends and i were eating it and had a good time...i know it's an RC tho...so i guess no long-term side effects are known? do some people like methylone?...or do most people hate it?
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Re: confused about test results with bunk police... [Re: crispy86]
#18729762 - 08/19/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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i also tested some WoW that i had...
tested with ehrlich: took about 15-30 sec to notice any color change. what was interesting, is that the solution itself did not change color (maybe a slight hint of pink), but the white paper DEFINITELY turned full on purple
what conclusion should i draw from this test?...that it is real LSD and is low mic'd?...or perhaps it's some other indole?...
what confused me is the white paper turned totally purple, which is good, but the solution was clear for the most part, and then turned SLIGHTLY pink...
i tested it with marquis to rule out adulterants and it was negative...good sign
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Re: confused about test results with bunk police... [Re: crispy86]
#18729828 - 08/19/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I once tested LSD and it took a full 2 minutes or so to turn purple. And i'm sure it was real. So I think final color says a lot, although you should pay close attention to the transitionary colors as well.
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Re: confused about test results with bunk police... [Re: crispy86]
#18729873 - 08/19/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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crispy86 said: i also tested some WoW that i had...
tested with ehrlich: took about 15-30 sec to notice any color change. what was interesting, is that the solution itself did not change color (maybe a slight hint of pink), but the white paper DEFINITELY turned full on purple
what conclusion should i draw from this test?...that it is real LSD and is low mic'd?...or perhaps it's some other indole?...
what confused me is the white paper turned totally purple, which is good, but the solution was clear for the most part, and then turned SLIGHTLY pink...
i tested it with marquis to rule out adulterants and it was negative...good sign
Yeah I've had plain white unperf that tested out similar to that with ehrlich's reagent. The solution barely turns purple/pink but that paper itself goes mega lavender color. Great absolutely awesome LSD.
I've also had some white unperf that not only turned purple/lavender but OOZED purple color into the solution. That was some potent shit though. 1.5 and I was apple butter toast on a saturday night! I've also had a perforated print blotter than oozed purple color also, super potent shit too.
So what I'm thinking, but I can't exactly verify this beyond anecdotal evidence, the stronger the blotter is laid the more chance that the solution surrounding the blotter will also turn purple in the ehrlich's test. My other theory is that some paper holds the LSD inside the paper better than other papers, thus when you put certain papers in it appears that the purple color stays in the paper, and other times it leaks out.
Who knows.. Sounds like you got some good stuff though.
The moon rocks you got sound an awful lot like this stuff my friends bought at a concert in washington recently. Same deal, kind of small yellow tinted clear chunks that were a bit salty and not as bitter as I would like to taste in a good bag of "molly". Luckily the bunk police actually had a tent set up at the concert and we tested that shit and sure enough it came up as methylone. I did not partake so I can't speak to the qualitative effects.
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Re: confused about test results with bunk police... [Re: floatingwater]
#18729965 - 08/19/13 09:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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crispy86 said: i also tested some WoW that i had...
tested with ehrlich: took about 15-30 sec to notice any color change. what was interesting, is that the solution itself did not change color (maybe a slight hint of pink), but the white paper DEFINITELY turned full on purple
what conclusion should i draw from this test?...that it is real LSD and is low mic'd?...or perhaps it's some other indole?...
what confused me is the white paper turned totally purple, which is good, but the solution was clear for the most part, and then turned SLIGHTLY pink...
i tested it with marquis to rule out adulterants and it was negative...good sign
Yeah I've had plain white unperf that tested out similar to that with ehrlich's reagent. The solution barely turns purple/pink but that paper itself goes mega lavender color. Great absolutely awesome LSD.
I've also had some white unperf that not only turned purple/lavender but OOZED purple color into the solution. That was some potent shit though. 1.5 and I was apple butter toast on a saturday night! I've also had a perforated print blotter than oozed purple color also, super potent shit too.
So what I'm thinking, but I can't exactly verify this beyond anecdotal evidence, the stronger the blotter is laid the more chance that the solution surrounding the blotter will also turn purple in the ehrlich's test. My other theory is that some paper holds the LSD inside the paper better than other papers, thus when you put certain papers in it appears that the purple color stays in the paper, and other times it leaks out.
Who knows.. Sounds like you got some good stuff though.
The moon rocks you got sound an awful lot like this stuff my friends bought at a concert in washington recently. Same deal, kind of small yellow tinted clear chunks that were a bit salty and not as bitter as I would like to taste in a good bag of "molly". Luckily the bunk police actually had a tent set up at the concert and we tested that shit and sure enough it came up as methylone. I did not partake so I can't speak to the qualitative effects.
i TOTALLY agree with you regarding the LSD/ehrlich test. i first tested my new perf sheet (colored, sun and moon) and the solution immediately turned purple (like you said, the paper OOZED it), and of course the paper turned all purple too. the guy told me the L had been laid out on the blotter just a few days before i got it, so i think it is really fresh/new and mic'd up real high...one hit should be plenty.
the WoW i tested: like i said, the solution remained clear/slightly pink, but the paper was solid purple. i think the WoW is prob a lot weaker then the perf sun and moons:
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Re: confused about test results with bunk police... [Re: crispy86]
#18730062 - 08/19/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Only one way to find out..
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Re: confused about test results with bunk police... [Re: floatingwater]
#18730207 - 08/19/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes, for me too with Ehrlich's only the paper turned purple. It was a little slow to change, but very clearly purple once it changed.
I also tested another tasteless blotter with the Ehrlich's and it failed. No purple but the liquid turned slightly yellowish. Based on effects and Marquis and Mecke results, I think it was most likely an nbome.
Edited by hexavibrongal (08/19/13 10:40 PM)
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Re: confused about test results with bunk police... [Re: hexavibrongal]
#18730770 - 08/20/13 02:37 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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hexavibrongal said: Yes, for me too with Ehrlich's only the paper turned purple. It was a little slow to change, but very clearly purple once it changed.
I also tested another tasteless blotter with the Ehrlich's and it failed. No purple but the liquid turned slightly yellowish. Based on effects and Marquis and Mecke results, I think it was most likely an nbome.
wish the instructions were a little more thorough as far as how to interpret results...
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