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xfsketch
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thanx I will be cautious as always. I showed one to a drunk guy just messin around and he grabbed it out of my hand and acted like he was gonna eat it!!! I screamed NOOO! I swatted it out of his hand. he was only kidding but I spent the next 30 mins explaining why he was a dumbass lmao! Im gonna keep searching. Ive smelled good amanitas before dried. They actually smell pretty good. the ones I smelled.
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Re: I finally found Aminita [Re: xfsketch]
#18725830 - 08/19/13 02:25 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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they spore printed white.
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Re: I finally found Aminita [Re: xfsketch]
#18725836 - 08/19/13 02:27 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: I finally found Aminita [Re: xfsketch]
#18726175 - 08/19/13 06:40 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I went out again this morning and found a bunch of starts. Amazing how in just a couple days things change in the mushroom world! I cleared out around most of them and pick a couple premature ones. Does it matter if they are still round? I figure I will check on them tomorrow. think they will still be there? heres pics.

























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Re: I finally found Aminita [Re: xfsketch]
#18726247 - 08/19/13 07:11 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think a couple of those look really close, but then look dead wrong(literally).
I'm gonna PM some people I think might have more experience with them and see if they won't swing by this thread. I really feel bad you haven't had much help.
Meanwhile, can you try for slightly better pictures? They've improved a heap and you're getting much closer. Try to get rid of the crazy angles and really bright lights. For example, when you're holding it straight up, your camera has trouble with focus and lighting. Once you dig it up, lay it down out of direct sunlight and try to get a picture with great focus.
Also it still looks like you're mixing in some "blushers" If you see a mushroom that bruises pinkish-reddish-brownish especially around the base, toss it. It won't be A. muscaria.
You're showing great improvement, bro. Keep your chin up. I know you're getting close. Just don't give up on mycology and move on once you find your todestools.
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xfsketch
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TY domesticgnome! I will try to get better pics. I will go back there tonight or in the morning then post more pics. Thanx for the compliments. Dont worry im gonna keep at it. Im not just interested in the amanita
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I think there is some muscaria in there. Some of those are really rocking their tell-tale concentric ring base
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xfsketch
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to domesticgnome ; not that I doubt your comments but which pic/pics did you see blushing? I havent noticed on any of them I picked a redish or pinkish coloration after handling but then again Im definately uneducated in this area TY again loads!
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Re: I finally found Aminita [Re: xfsketch]
#18726886 - 08/19/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ambrosia Society Go to content Preparing the Sacrament Preparing the Sacrament
The following is excerpted from Don's book, " Amanita Muscaria; Herb of Immortality" from Chapter 11, "Natural Magic":
Natural Magic
The following material details how to find and prepare Amanita Muscaria for use as a sacrament.
It is up to the reader to exercise caution and restraint when first trying the Amanita Muscaria mushroom; individuals vary widely in their response to various substances. It is much better to have a lighter pleasant effect than to be overpowered. While I personally have never seen anyone experience a bad effect, there is always that possibility.
Our ancient fathers called it the herb of Life; let’s keep it that way. The Amanita Muscaria is Sacred; treat it and yourself with respect. To find and consume the Amanita Muscaria mushroom is to embark on a spiritual quest.
This knowledge is given so you may have the power of choice. If you wish to use the herb for healing, you can, if you wish to explore the Sacred, its here. The herb of Life is your birthright! No man, or assembly of men, has the right to deny you contact with the divine.
The Hunt
Finding the herb of Life is a sacred hunt, the Amanita Muscaria mushroom, as mentioned in Natural Science, is a Mycorhiza mushroom. It lives in a symbiotic relationship with various species of trees such as Pine, Spruce, Larch, Birch, Beech, Maple, Hemlock, Fir, Hazel, Olive, and occasionally, the Oaks. So, I don’t hunt the herb as much as the trees that support it. The Amanita Muscaria mushrooms will always be found in association with these trees, in the area encompassed by the tree roots. The herb also needs drainage; sandy soil or sloping terrain seems to be preferred.
Over most of North America the fungus fruits from June to November. In California and Florida it fruits in some areas in the winter, the only sure way to discover where the herb is to spend as much time on the hunting as you can afford during its season.
Once you have found the Amanita Muscaria mushrooms in a certain place, returning there to check from season to season is usually a good idea. Eventually you will compile a list of areas where you know the herb lives. It then becomes a matter of catching the fruiting. Do not be greedy, this plant is essential to the life of the forest; I always leave the older worm eaten and the very young buttons. The old ones don’t taste good but are still releasing spores while the very young buttons could easily be confused with a button of a different fungus. If all you find are young buttons; try to return in a day or two; they should be in their prime by then.
A prime specimen has a basically flat cap and is about its full size. It should be fresh looking and undamaged by insects, slugs or weathering. Rounded caps mean it is 1 to 3 days from maturity. Upturned edges on a cap mean it’s an older specimen; as long as they look fresh all three levels of maturity can be harvested.
A few simple items make harvesting easier. A basket to carry them in, lined with a clean cloth, a couple of small clean soft brushes to remove debris from the specimens and a flat blade screwdriver or an old stiff kitchen knife. Just slide the screwdriver or knife into the ground next to the specimen’s stem and pry up, it should just pop up whole.
It is a lot easier removing dirt and debris from the specimen before it starts to dry and the less dirt in the specimen basket the better, so I try to clean them thoroughly as I am harvesting with brushes and my fingers. Removing the stem from the cap at this time seems to result in less over all damage, as does segregating the caps from the stems in the basket since the caps are somewhat fragile.
Amanita Muscaria should be dried as soon as possible after harvest. Final cleaning of the herb should be done before drying. Sometimes a thin layer of soil is actually trapped in the skin of the stem’s butt. Gently scraping with a knife will remove it; a final cleaning can be done in this area after drying.
a basket of Amanita Muscaria mushrooms.
Preparing the Plant of Life
Once fresh specimens are obtained they must be dried before use! I remove the cap from the stem (if not already done) and slice the stem into quarters lengthwise the cap will dry whole. Placed on a screen or rack with good air movement they should dry in a day or two. If placed over a heating vent or oven dried, do not exceed 120 deg. F. A conventional food dehydrator with a temperature control works very well. Dry the Amanita Muscaria mushrooms until completely dry; it should be cracker dry, pieces should snap when bent. Once dry it should be placed in sealable plastic bags, sealing the dried herb of Life in the bags creates the most delectable fragrance, it’s no wonder the ancient Aryans also called it “Andhas” R.V. literally “the flower.” These bags can then be stored in glass or plastic containers; store in a dry cool dark area.
These dried Amanita Muscaria mushrooms should be aged for 2 or 3 months before using to allow a good curing of the specimens. Proper drying and curing is essential for both good taste and potency. The bread of Heaven can be simply eaten as is or used in the following preparations.
Dried Amanita Muscaria pieces being removed from the drier.
WARNING: Do not consume any carbonated beverage, (beer, soda, etc.) before or after consuming the dried Amanita Muscaria. It appears that Muscimol can be reconverted into Ibotenic Acid in the presence of carbonated water. This reverses the effects of drying where Ibotenic Acid loses CO2 and becomes Muscimol. The resulting effect being similar to fresh Amanita Muscaria ingestion nausea, vomiting, stomach cramps, stupor, coma like sleep, excess salivation and no hallucinogenic effect!
Magic Food
In Soma: Divine mushroom of Immortality it is mentioned that the Siberian tribes using Amanita Muscaria often placed the dried mushroom into soups and stews thus creating magic food and this is one of the most enjoyable ways of consuming Amanita Muscaria. Crushed or powdered dried Amanita can easily be added to a bowl of stew, soup or oatmeal and actually makes the food taste better. This is probably the best way to begin using the Herb of Life.
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xfsketch
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Re: I finally found Aminita [Re: xfsketch]
#18727805 - 08/19/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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went and found some more at another spot 







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Re: I finally found Aminita [Re: The chimp]
#18728281 - 08/19/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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The chimp said: Looks like Amanita muscaria var. guessowii to me.
Yeah, that's them. Hard to tell from the pics but I've seen enough of them to know they're it.
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Re: I finally found Aminita [Re: Bobzimmer]
#18728297 - 08/19/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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That last pic is cool.
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Re: I finally found Aminita [Re: Untitled]
#18728389 - 08/19/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Removing the stem from the cap at this time seems to result in less over all damage, as does segregating the caps from the stems in the basket since the caps are somewhat fragile.
This is WRONG and can only lead to misidentification. It's good practice to leave all shrooms intact, then when printing separate caps and stems but arrange them so that there is no confusion about which cap came from which stem. If one print is off, you can confidently discard both parts of the off shroom.
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It is a lot easier removing dirt and debris from the specimen before it starts to dry and the less dirt in the specimen basket the better, so I try to clean them thoroughly as I am harvesting with brushes and my fingers.
I find that a small slightly stiff paintbrush or coffee brush is a good way to get rid of the bulk of the forest crut while leaving the mushroom undamaged, and as that article points out, it's much easier to clean it immediately and gently and keep most of that stuff out of your basket or whatever. I also carry along a couple quart yogurt containers with lids for messy/slimy segretation or to gather berries AND some pieces of clean thin cotton cloth. Wrapping some of the shrooms (like the dirtier ones) in a bit of cloth keeps them all cleaner and prevents rollin' around and damaging all of them. Gotta be thin stuff, tho', or you waste too much space and the weight of the cloth will contribute to crushing.
Yeh I'm a bit of a freak on the tidy factor, but I can see that I'm not the only one here who thinks that neatness counts.
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Re: I finally found Aminita [Re: fry day]
#18729809 - 08/19/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sweet bro, I told you it was going to work out. I'm glad you got what you were looking for.
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xfsketch
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thanx domesticgnome and all of you guys here at the forum. I still probably wont eat any of them but I am drying them to a cracker crisp then bagn them and storing somewhere dark and dry
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xfsketch
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Re: I finally found Aminita [Re: xfsketch]
#18729959 - 08/19/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I like that last pic too untitled! Im going to get them tomorrow or whenever they open up more possibly, from what I understand the smaller ones (pins) are more potent and good to harvest if their veil is broken. hoping thats right. I can be impatient lol.
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Re: I finally found Aminita [Re: xfsketch]
#18729996 - 08/19/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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to fry day: Ill remember to keep all shrooms intact TY good advice!
definately going to have to pack a small stiff paintbrush and some yogurt containers. clean the shroom immediately. I like the thin cloth idea too! I often bounce around and break them on the atv. Youre definately not the only tidy person here
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Re: I finally found Aminita [Re: xfsketch]
#18730747 - 08/20/13 02:18 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I know precisely that feeling of FINALLY finding a species you've been looking for after many hunts. I too have recently found my first yellow Amanitas. They run much smaller than the red-capped Amanita muscaria. I hope for your sake you find some of those! Their size and bold color are really special to behold. Keep those eyes peeled and congrats on your find!
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Re: I finally found Aminita [Re: FoxDie]
#18730888 - 08/20/13 04:19 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Last year i saw an A. muscaria specimen about 10 inches (the cap) across. Beast.
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xfsketch
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Re: I finally found Aminita [Re: Untitled]
#18732321 - 08/20/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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TY foxdie! I am happy to find the yellow ones. I dont know if you can find the red ones here in ohio. I will keep an eye out for them anyway Red is the color the eye sees first. The yellows ones are indeed smaller Thanx for the congrats!
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