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treating alcoholism with mushrooms
    #18728093 - 08/19/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

After treating my chronic depression with marijuana and phychedelics i saw the potential for them. Most of my mental issues seem to originally be brought on by my mothers hopeless alcoholism. Could mushrooms give her the perspective change that she needs to get out of this awful loop of recovery and relapsing?


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Re: treating alcoholism with mushrooms [Re: nickbic]
    #18728210 - 08/19/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Its very possible it could it helped me and there have been studies on this type of treatment . If use properly the mushrooms can really show someone the path and truthfully help depression.


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Re: treating alcoholism with mushrooms [Re: jonnymushroom]
    #18730090 - 08/19/13 10:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

didn't really help me personally nor did lsd if anything it just made me want to drink more, although haven't tripped in awhile. If anything maybe a temporary fix.


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Re: treating alcoholism with mushrooms [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18731048 - 08/20/13 06:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I know you will wanna drink on the trip but it started to help me see how bad my problem was and gave me reasons to try and stop after. After the trips I would want change and it took years but one day after 10 ten years of heavy abuse, I had to stop and it was hard all the way but I did it.


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Re: treating alcoholism with mushrooms [Re: jonnymushroom]
    #18731161 - 08/20/13 07:28 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I heard lsd can disrupt the part of your brain that makes you want to drink but i dont have any sources for this. How would mushrooms go with ptsd and a handful of other issues?


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Re: treating alcoholism with mushrooms [Re: nickbic]
    #18731697 - 08/20/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Not 100% sure but there have been studies that lead some people to believe they may help with addiction.


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Re: treating alcoholism with mushrooms [Re: jonnymushroom]
    #18732690 - 08/20/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I had a severely rough patch of depression when I was 19... my first mushroom trip put a lot of things in perspective.  I don't think it cured the sadness, but it was part of the process.

I know it doesn't relate to alcoholism, but if she takes it with the intention of soul-searching to figure out why she relies so heavily on alcohol, it might help.  I'm positive it's entirely dependent on the motivation for use.


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Re: treating alcoholism with mushrooms [Re: happymealplease]
    #18733415 - 08/20/13 06:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Get her on Naltrexone if possible. She can continue to drink on this but will not feel any pleasure for it... it's a newly-conventional way to frustrate a drinker out of their habit and to gently pry something between them and the euphoric hold it has on their psyche.

That said, shrooms, LSD, maybe even DXM could help her with perspective (although I wouldn't recommend the latter, of course, not that anyone with sense and access to real drugs would consider that).


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Re: treating alcoholism with mushrooms [Re: st1llnox]
    #18736478 - 08/21/13 08:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Ive never "taken" anything from my DXM trips besides very fun memories. Her doctor prescribed dozens of drugs for everything from nausea relief to anxiety meds and antidepressants. She literally had a lock box full of pill bottles. I dont know what they did but the last time i saw her she was just as bad as years before when it started. Im not even sure if mushrooms would be ok to give to her with these meds.


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Re: treating alcoholism with mushrooms [Re: nickbic]
    #18740741 - 08/22/13 02:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I believe Ibogaine, Ayahuasca and Mescaline work well for what you need, in that order. Aya and Mescaline work best in ceremony, not taken by yourself without a proper context. Ibogaine needs accurate dosing, usually done in a clinic, but it's the most effective so it might be worth the effort to travel there.

Shrooms and LSD might work as well. Salvia Divinorum gave me (and at least one other user here) a straight up alcohol aversion. I don't have the thread handy atm, but it might work.


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Re: treating alcoholism with mushrooms [Re: nickbic]
    #18741476 - 08/22/13 09:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I say dose the bitch. it's easier with LSD though.


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Re: treating alcoholism with mushrooms [Re: st1llnox]
    #18741932 - 08/22/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Get her on Naltrexone if possible. She can continue to drink on this but will not feel any pleasure for it...




Is this coming from first hand experience? I just started Naltrexone yesterday... Felt sleepy, not hungry, had some beers. I know it's real early in my treatment, but so far so good...:drinklager::nono: . . . :peace:


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Re: treating alcoholism with mushrooms [Re: vinsue]
    #18754705 - 08/25/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Ive never heard of ibogaine, i will look into it.


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Re: treating alcoholism with mushrooms [Re: nickbic]
    #18755640 - 08/25/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

They successfully used LSD to treat alcoholism back in the day with just one 500 microgram dose.

Significant doses have the best results for transformation and change. I wouldn't see why mushrooms couldn't give her the perspective change she needs but it would have to be a large dose most likely.


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Re: treating alcoholism with mushrooms [Re: LysergicX7]
    #18755699 - 08/25/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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They successfully used LSD to treat alcoholism back in the day with just one 500 microgram dose.

Significant doses have the best results for transformation and change. I wouldn't see why mushrooms couldn't give her the perspective change she needs but it would have to be a large dose most likely.



I second that, probably most psychedelics have at least the chance to help make fundamental inner changes. The problem might be with the pharma crap she's already taking.

I remember my first LSD trip, it was absolutely fantastic. Spectacular. Later the friend who gave me the LSD, and took it as well, said that indeed it was some of the best acid he's taken in years. Primo stuff. Well in the same day, same context (Boom festival, awesome setting) and same high quality acid, this German guy had a shitty ride. He was a smoker (and did smoke all the way through) and a drinker (I suspect he was either drinking beer or hung over from previous days) had little sleep before the trip and was in shitty physical condition.

I think all of this factors in. If the friend here is taking 3-4 different pharma pills messing with her head, has a shitty attitude from previously taking shrooms to "get fucked up" then it might be difficult to come out clean on the other end of a trip.

If anything, I think she'd benefit a lot from getting to know some real life crack whores and heroin addicts in more advanced stages of decay, also look at movies like Requiem for a Dream and Candy. Or here's a list.

Nothing like seeing yourself 5-10 years in the future, with collapsed veins, fucked up skin, teeth, hair and personality.

OP, there's a fine line of how much of this material you can share with her without going over the top and becoming a broken record. Just be aware where you are, see her reactions and don't overdo it.


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Re: treating alcoholism with mushrooms [Re: Spacerific]
    #18758878 - 08/26/13 08:54 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

She knows exactly how things would turn out. I really dont have the mental capacity to deal with my life and worrying about hers on top of it but i owe it to her to get her help if it works. Ive seen a show about the dmt rituals and one women saw a hallucination of her daughter who told her what her future holds with her present choices. It was a really positive experience. I think ill try to get dmt but if thats not available then a mushroom dose might do the trick. Marijuana was also very helpful with curbing the cravings for alcohol so i really believe with the proper settings and dose it could help. Thanks for the responses.


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Re: treating alcoholism with mushrooms [Re: nickbic]
    #18760637 - 08/26/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Tell ya what, nickbic, I'm on day 5 of Naltrexone. It bothers my stomach a bit, but it really has cut down on the cravings, and I've been drinking 40 years, with the last 5 years being being very serious.
 
    What ever meds she is prescribed or taking probably shouldn't be taken with excessive amounts of alcohol. With the Sinclair Method, alcohol consumption is allowed. Here it is 7PM, and I haven't even had 1 beer today. Even on Sat. watching football, I think I had 2 or 3 beers, it didn't taste good and I didn't feel like getting buzzed.:shrug: I'm not smoking weed either. Go figure.

  Anyway, check it out. Not sure how your relationship is with your Mom. Talk to her or her doctor about it. I've been pleasantly surprised with what it's done for me...:goodluck: to her...:peace:


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Re: treating alcoholism with mushrooms [Re: LysergicX7]
    #18761377 - 08/26/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yes I knew they had done some successful study and treatment with lsd or mushrooms or both.


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Re: treating alcoholism with mushrooms [Re: nickbic]
    #18762402 - 08/27/13 02:41 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Ive never "taken" anything from my DXM trips besides very fun memories. Her doctor prescribed dozens of drugs for everything from nausea relief to anxiety meds and antidepressants. She literally had a lock box full of pill bottles. I dont know what they did but the last time i saw her she was just as bad as years before when it started. Im not even sure if mushrooms would be ok to give to her with these meds.




This is the truly sad thing. People get habits with illegal drugs, and then go to the doc for help and what he do...? Whyyy he gets them addicted to LEGAL fukin drugs as well is what he does!! So now the person has not only got to contend with the toxins from the illegal drugs but from the --usually--cockail of legal drugs that are sanctioned by this totally fucking insane culture. It really IS insane, and I can dig why many people try and escape through illegal drugs etc!

But trying to look at the mess of this, and try and think of some good advice for you and your mum. First question I would ask you is does your mum want to change? That is crucial, because if she doesn't you are gonna face a seriously hard task to convince here she's got a problem and needs to take urgent action which would also mean getting off the legal drugs.


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