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Lucid_Euphoria
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Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work?
#18728049 - 08/19/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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So I found this tub that is all but perfect dimensions for a glove box.
The only problem is that the lid is "frosted" so I cannot see through it.
This made me wonder, could I just flip it upside down?
Place the lid upside down on a table. prep/clean all my jars/petri's/tools, etc.
Place them on the lid, then place the tub upside down on top of the lid?
I don't see why this wouldn't work, but wanted to get some feedback in case I was over looking something.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Lucid_Euphoria]
#18728115 - 08/19/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've seen some use a clean cloth or a dish towel on the table and the box upside down over it. Just keep the cloth wet to catch falling baddies.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Pestile]
#18728134 - 08/19/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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It works well my old SAB had a white lid and a clear bottom.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Slayer1024]
#18728176 - 08/19/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I now use a 110 quart tub placed upside down on a towel sprayed with bleach solution. Got the idea from someone not too long ago but I smoke too much to remember who...
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Lucid_Euphoria
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Trippy_Penguin]
#18728429 - 08/19/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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So do you place the towel inside the box on top of the lid?
Or beneath it?
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Lucid_Euphoria]
#18728570 - 08/19/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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You place the towel on the table with the box on top. No lid, only the tub on the cloth.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Pestile]
#18728583 - 08/19/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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get a real SAB.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Pestile]
#18728599 - 08/19/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Like this:
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Notahacker420 said: If you are getting a 75% success rate on agar in a SAB, your sterile technique needs some fine tuning, not the SAB.
A flow hood is not going to fix this.
I get 99-100% success rate in my SAB, with no thought of building a flow hood anytime soon.
From: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18528520#18528520
Or do it like this:

From: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18399390#18399390
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Pestile]
#18728662 - 08/19/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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or this..........

go big, or your first regret, will be elbow room.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18728684 - 08/19/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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He's asking about his large tub, where is the tub in your examples?
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Pestile]
#18728690 - 08/19/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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like a tub would work for me..........
thats the point, get a real box.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18731018 - 08/20/13 06:02 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I cannot afford a real box, or I would just build a flow hood. In fact I already have a pimp ass HEPA for a flow hood, but I'm on such a tight budget I cannot afford the blower and wood to construct it at the moment.
The first couple pics from Pestilence look almost exactly like the dimensions of the tub I was looking at. Doesn't look like it leaves much head room though.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Lucid_Euphoria]
#18731026 - 08/20/13 06:08 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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It'll work... Maybe its overkill, but I close the box up, wipe everything w/ some iso, oust the box, and wait a few min, and then start working... shouldn't matter that the tub is upside down or not
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18731177 - 08/20/13 07:33 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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anne halonium said: like a tub would work for me..........
thats the point, get a real box.
Yes that's you and your cultivation needs, not the needs of everyone else. A box like yours is a waste of money for 99% of people here. My box was 8$ at home depot, not hundreds.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Trippy_Penguin]
#18731212 - 08/20/13 07:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Trippy_Penguin]
#18731227 - 08/20/13 07:52 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Has there ever been a large scale discussion of "Upside down w a bleach towel vs Lid and soap or alcohol"? Is it just preference?
I'm planning on using my SAB in a bleached down room that I've made. The room itself is almost a SAB in it's own right. Can't be too careful, though.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: CaptainPuffy]
#18731284 - 08/20/13 08:20 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I had the same problem except it had a black lid. Did the same thing, turned it upside down. Worked fine.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: CaptainPuffy]
#18731337 - 08/20/13 08:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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CaptainPuffy said: Has there ever been a large scale discussion of "Upside down w a bleach towel vs Lid and soap or alcohol"? Is it just preference?
I'm planning on using my SAB in a bleached down room that I've made. The room itself is almost a SAB in it's own right. Can't be too careful, though.
It's just a preference still air is still air as long as it's sanitary. Honestly you don't really need a bleach cleaned room specifically for your work, but I guess a little extra never hurt anyone.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Trippy_Penguin]
#18731428 - 08/20/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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petersodm said:
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anne halonium said: like a tub would work for me..........
thats the point, get a real box.
Yes that's you and your cultivation needs, not the needs of everyone else. A box like yours is a waste of money for 99% of people here. My box was 8$ at home depot, not hundreds.
waste? your surely not talking waste from contams and, a poorly built box , unless by waste , ya mean " investment in good equip"
considering i have several, with lights, hundreds is not a stretch.
i dont see your point, any effective lab costs.
my concern is capability and practicality of use. those with experience, realize elbow room, work room, and ,lighting are paramount to a good innoc / handling process.
for the casual case of pints, flip over a shoe box , add saran wrap and oust it up. fact is, ya either need a serious box or ya dont. the comprimise hacked plastic tub , has limits. i know, i made similar ones in the 1980's. now i know better. i think enough of you guys to suggest you deserve better also.
i realize its a bad economy. the answer isnt to reduce bio handling to a 10 spot.
those interested in a tangible , usable isolation area, would be best served to think it thru a level.

ya dont have to be a 1%, to have a 1% box. dont settle for the 99% box , unless ya want 99% results.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18731465 - 08/20/13 09:33 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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anne halonium said: ya dont have to be a 1%, to have a 1% box. dont settle for the 99% box , unless ya want 99% results.
99% seems like pretty good odds to me. <$10 for 99% or $100+ for a 'good' box. Sometimes its not about what you want but what you need.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Slayer1024]
#18731483 - 08/20/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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if your all about cost. god bless you.
serious growers, are about capability.
some may not feel the need, future pros, will apprecicate the possibilities.
i think more of the community, than to reduce their efforts to the cheapest box possible.
some expect more in the new age.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18731499 - 08/20/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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anne halonium said: if your all about cost. god bless you.
serious growers, are about capability.
some may not feel the need, future pros, will apprecicate the possibilities.
Define "pros" so we know when we are "future pros".
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Pestile]
#18731505 - 08/20/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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the opener would be more than a wally tub fer sure.
asking, would imply your not there yet.
ability to inform beyond flipping a tote, is a good start.
kudos, for the attempt to play the elitist grower card, as a spin on why a tote beats a real box. its a defensive tactic i hadnt seen yet.
peeps , quit fooling around. if ya wanna grow, be serious, spend a dollar, and get useable shit thats worth the time and effort.
yes those little totes work. if your that pinned down and a casual grower, all the luv. however, some of us prefer more room and heavier usage values.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18731529 - 08/20/13 09:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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OK, thanks, I'll aspire to that point and get back at ya when I do.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18731534 - 08/20/13 09:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow. Not to be too subtle here, but you are condescending ass.
Just because you have more disposable income than most growers on this forum doesn't make you more "serious" or "pro" than anyone else.
In fact this community was built on the shoulders of those who used every day mediocre household items to become very adept at this hobby.
People such as Agar, Monstermitch, Ohmatic, RR, Magash and the like I feel would be shaking thier heads in disappointment of your words. Tell those guys they aren't Pro's.
I thank you for your input on the thread, but as I stated about 10 posts ago. I can neither afford, nor have the desire for an expensive box.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Lucid_Euphoria]
#18731546 - 08/20/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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no, its my 35+ yrs experience, and experience with many types of boxes, that make me a condescending ass with experience, whos trying to upgrade those who insist otherwise.
if your broke, get a job, dont reduce the grow to 10$.
the community , was built on several grow books and teks , written by pros , who reduced it to doable for the masses.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18731561 - 08/20/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Assumptions are the mother of all fuckups.
I have a job asshole. I work 50 hours a week to support my daughter and myself. I love how elitist assholes think just because someone doesn't have disposable income, that they are lazy bums.
Get off your cross. We need the space to nail the next fool martyr.
Anyways. I'm done with this thread. It has run its course and has been reduced to childish bickering. Gonna let it rest.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18731571 - 08/20/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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anne halonium said: All dat SAB porn

Casual tote SAB user, here. They get the job done. But a junker is not a engineered piece of equipment plain and simple... Nice boxes Anne
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anne halonium
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Lucid_Euphoria]
#18732047 - 08/20/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lucid_Euphoria said: reduced to childish bickering.
you forgot reduced to 10$ also.
my premise is simple, are we rising to our best? or have we reduced the entire grow, to allowance money and hope?
by your " lucid" reasoning, the cardboard shoe box and saran wrap ousted SAB, is the pinacle of advancement. your tote, is most eltist in that scenario. welcome.
i appreciate peeps finances. i merely suggest, one appreciates the grow potential also.
is it really the point to reduce the grow to the lowest common denom? i dont think so. or everyone who seriously grows, is insulted.
virginia gent , i suspect, sees the point. yes small boxes work , but better boxes, are just better boxes.
i wish everyone here, the best box they can aquire. and, offer examples of options.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18732073 - 08/20/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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How many mushrooms can I grow for $4.32
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18732085 - 08/20/13 12:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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What does your box consist of? It looks like a cupboard or a kitchen element with lights inside?
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18732139 - 08/20/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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anne halonium said: the opener would be more than a wally tub fer sure.
asking, would imply your not there yet.
ability to inform beyond flipping a tote, is a good start.
kudos, for the attempt to play the elitist grower card, as a spin on why a tote beats a real box. its(it's) a defensive tactic i(I) hadnt(use ') seen yet.
peeps , quit fooling around. if ya(just your age in grow experience suggests you wouldn't say "ya") wanna grow, be serious, spend a dollar, and get useable shit thats(forgot an apostrophe) worth the time and effort.
yes those little totes work. if your that pinned down and a casual grower, all the luv(you have to be at least 35 with all that experience and you say luv too?). however, some of us prefer more room and heavier usage values.
useage(usage*) values. Great buzz word but around here we say
here comes another anne halonium
Wise man say. He who Haiku write in, pro-grower surely is. Aspire to this and this only!
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: bodhisatta]
#18732217 - 08/20/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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wise girl says, aspire to more than a 10$ grow box.
10$ is lunch money for an adult, dont suggest its the pinnacle of tek, when thats all its worth to ya, as ,its more a commentary on you than my ops.
you guys are ballsy defending a work crew lunch box as a serious grow tool, unless ya arent serious, wich would explain alot, if ya are serious, my condolences. im sorry ya have such low grow equip esteem, why highlight it?
have we become so small, that any kids spider man lunch box, gives them the authoritative word on SAB?
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18732231 - 08/20/13 01:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do you think some leaded crystal ball jars would be better for my PF tek? since, I'm only aspiring to 9$ currently with my not-even-borosilicate glass jars now.
Also monotubs should be constructed from carbon fiber or at the very least fiberglass. These custom fabricated tubs are made for optimal FAE and are purpose built for function rather than rigged contraptions made of homedepot scrap. We must do this now since polyfil, rubermaids, and trash bags are not enough money.
Anne PLEASSSESEEEEEE show us your fruiting chamber!!! Oh and your lab report since I'm sure you would have one being pro and all. I'll grade it for you and give you little stars.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: bodhisatta]
#18732267 - 08/20/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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ill assume that the lack of skill in obtaining supplies, also translates into the grow skill/ results
ill also suggest, if your that broke, the hobby is not for you,
if you insist, good luck, youll need it.
fact is , its a stretch beyond sanity, to claim the grow high ground , with a 18$ budget.
serious growers, can accept your broke. no one serious, accepts your bankrupt advice, and ,anyone who spent even 30$ you insulted.
essentially your saying everyone here with good equip, willing to freely share options is a fool.
are you saying you know best, and anyone with a 30$ OR MORE SETUP IS A FOOL?..... dont be timid, youve already said as much.
most peeps arent that stupid or craven. get a job and a real box, and quit testing the patience of the adults.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18732293 - 08/20/13 01:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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+1 troll point to anne. You won this round.
But seriously let's see your fruiting equipment.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18732330 - 08/20/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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not so fast bod, i forgot, ya wanted to see my FC's

big ones 55 gal, small ones 33 gal. approx 8 sq meters growing area.
what did ya think i use with the glove boxes?
and the answer is no, only an idiot would show a grow that size.
but ,heres some chicon nindo mexicana ( exotics) in one as example

ok bod NOW i win........ everyone hit hard on the luv points now.
i dont troll , dont need to, i have experience , and equip instead. know the difference, an be enlightened.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18732341 - 08/20/13 01:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Those don't look purpose built for mycology  Especially with clean bio-cultures of cube myc you're putting them into those conditions?
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: bodhisatta]
#18732357 - 08/20/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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You should really just add anne to your ignore list.
This person has been trying to grow mushrooms for years and has yet to show us pics of anything but some sickly mushrooms.
Trolls should be ignored.
That is all.....I am done here.
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anne halonium
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: bodhisatta]
#18732367 - 08/20/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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lets see what ya got bod. nots, i already seen your hacked tub........
lets see your exotic CNM's not......... oh thats right, you dont have any! so really, how is your opinion on exotics VALID, unless you extend your POV to things you have zero expereince with? ( wait a minit, what am i saying, opinion without experience, is your standard.)
odd, how the peeps who ignore me most, are experts about me.
troll: what mid level growers yell at pros who outclass them. ( see also " elitist" and 'condescending")
schools out, im off to the yacht club for a dinner.
Edited by anne halonium (08/20/13 01:53 PM)
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Pestile]
#18732464 - 08/20/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pestilence said: What does your box consist of? It looks like a cupboard or a kitchen element with lights inside?
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Pestile]
#18732498 - 08/20/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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my taxi is running late, so ill take this question.
my SAB's are a wall of rubbermaid cabinets, with LED installed for the purpose, some are for fungi, some for cacti grafting.
they run about 100$ each with lights.
the green face one, is a custom built one, also about 100$
if cost is an issue, one can use some imagination, and get the same effect. hell, snag a cabinet from a dumpster or something, and lysol it up, anything that has size can be effective.
yrs ago, i used boxes like you guys. they are hard to work with sometimes. i wouldnt even wish one of those on frank!
we discovered , more room, allows for better work, as it allows for better handling.
im not the enemy here. i wish everyone the best box they can get. shroomery peeps wanna grow, and deserve the best. no one wins in a race to the point of absurd on cost or space .
taxi here, lets grow!
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18732572 - 08/20/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I can dig that. Thanks for clearing it up!
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Pestile]
#18732882 - 08/20/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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My next SAB will be made from the Ark of the Covenant, or maybe Tutankhamen's sarcophagus. It's the new age ferchrisssakes, don't cheap out!
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: grainbrain] 1
#18732946 - 08/20/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18025805#18025805
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Here's my SAB (Still Air Box)

I made it from a Sterlite 1478 from Wal-Mart.
It's 108quarts. Plenty of room to get things done.

The process is simple: I cut the holes with a 5" hole-saw on my cordless drill.
The 2 armholes are shoulder width apart. Some people don't realize how important it is to make the center of the holes about shoulder width apart. This gives it a nice comfortable feel.
Notice the lid is missing? That's because I turn the SAB upside down on a towel. When I spray the inside, the towel gets damp and traps contams. The towel also serves as a gasket to prevent drafts.
I made the center of the arm-holes about 7.5" from the lid lip.
The holes were the handles go have been tapped.
Every SAB will be slightly different based on your body size. I simply put the tote in to the position I would mostly be using it in. Then, I put my arms straight down to my side and then just bent at the elbows so my hands were straight out in front of me. I eyeballed were my middle finger lined up with the tote and made that my holes' center. This is the best way to figure out what the most natural place for the holes should go.
When I use it, I just wipe the walls with soapy water. Contaminants will stick to wet surfaces. I find soapy water works best. Bleach irritates my nose and lungs. Alcohol dries too fast.
I put the SAB in the least drafty room, close the door, and turn off anything that creates drafts or air circulation.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: SpitballJedi]
#18732951 - 08/20/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bought a 2nd house and converted it to a SAH. SABs are too 2013.7
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: grainbrain]
#18734264 - 08/20/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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grainbrain said: My next SAB will be made from the Ark of the Covenant, or maybe Tutankhamen's sarcophagus. It's the new age ferchrisssakes, don't cheap out!
your missing the spirit here. think " aircraft carrier" or " astrodome" in the new age , we can do better than tut or the ark. fer sure.
im starting to think , theres a see-thru bird house fetish here. growers? or bird house peeping toms?
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18734316 - 08/20/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: rew736]
#18734361 - 08/20/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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glad to see ya rew736, this thread is turning out to be rather educational, lots of boxes , ranging from high to low, chicken coop , to myco "go-go" grow, and everything in between.
if nothing else, im pleased to see so many examples. a noob , would get a full range of options indeed.
its the kind of stuff, that makes shroomery great.
lets see what the other contestants have for us!
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toxetel
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18734405 - 08/20/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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anne halonium said:

It's counterproductive to put lights in a still-air box, and even more so with a torch. Heat sources cause air currents, so the air will cease to be still.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18734417 - 08/20/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol, micro chip lights. essentially no heat. room also twin HEPA.
the 450nm , and the 680 nm, make agar and mycelia resolution excellent. the few contams we do see, we see instantly. note, the crisp shadow at 2 feet from source. they aint grannys xmas lights.
no one can inoc with confidence in a fogged plastic with no lights.
even with maid in the room unshowered, we pull 95%+ all the time min.
havent seen trich in YEARS.
what kinda pigeon trap are you sportin these days tox. id be glad to comment on yours, as you have mine.
torch is for scale, i set it in there when i took the pic, cuz i couldnt hold it with the dabs bong and titianum nail. AND a cam, and NO , im not setting my 180$ glass bong down where the maid is gonna kick it over. you guys expect alot dont ya.
we have micro torches much much smaller for innoc. were not savages ya know.
i know alot of this is alien tek to many of you. we come in peace.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18734479 - 08/20/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Deja vu. I swear I read all of this, word for word, a few weeks ago... I'm not trying to crack a joke; I had to check the dates of the posts to make sure.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Kjetterfaen]
#18737157 - 08/21/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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To be fair the thermal gradient in any SAB is going to be higher because of your hands (unless your at body temp in the room) than any microchip light let alone just moving things around even carefully.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: bodhisatta]
#18737194 - 08/21/13 12:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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thermal doesnt cause contams. contams cause contams.
clean room, clean box, twin whole room HEPAS. we have very few issues.

CNM mycelia , under blue and white LED , from " box 3", the agar box.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18737256 - 08/21/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Personally, I think a clear tote propped up on one end a bit is superior to a SAB that has it's arm holes are cut out high up on the side. The containment risk is going to be higher below the opening where air is entering. With a clear tote propped up on one end, there is more work area above the opening, that is if that is where you are doing your work.
No matter how you do it... to reduce risk, your work should be above the opening for your arms.
I use a clear tote propped up on one end with aluminum foil around the side to slow down air movement, I just keep my work above the opening.
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Edited by quisp65 (08/21/13 12:37 PM)
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anne halonium
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: quisp65]
#18737302 - 08/21/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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ya know, a cig in the lab, when the air is still, will tell ya alot about your air currents.
its not always what ya think...........
no cigs? then vape!
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18737525 - 08/21/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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anne halonium said: thermal doesnt cause contams. contams cause contams.
clean room, clean box, twin whole room HEPAS. we have very few issues.
You seem to be missing the point of a still-air box. Of course having a nearly sterile work room will prevent contaminations, regardless of the type of box (if any) you work in.
The point of a still-air box isn't to eliminate contaminants. It's to prevent them from landing onto your work. It allows you to perform sterile work in an otherwise non-sterile environment.
To be clear: Contams landing onto your work cause contams.
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what kinda pigeon trap are you sportin these days tox. id be glad to comment on yours, as you have mine.
I'm not seeking comment on mine, but since you asked -- I'm using a plain old 110-quart Sterilite tub with two big holes melted into one side (made by heating a soup can with a propane torch and pressing it into the side).
I spray all over the inside of it with diluted bleach just before use. I wear sterile shoulder-length gloves (meant for veterinary work) when I use it.
The box cost me less than a couple of beers and works dandy, even in my dirty, mold-ridden house.
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anne halonium said: we pull 95%+ all the time min.
I'd certainly hope that by spending all that money you're able to do better than 95%. I got fewer than 5% contaminations back when I used to do grain-to-grain in open air, just by turning off my fans and A/C and spraying the room out with Neutra-Air. I haven't had a contaminated jar at all since I started using the still-air box.
By the way -- what makes you act like such a jerk?
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: toxetel]
#18737637 - 08/21/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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well i count ALL aspects in the 95%, thats agar innoc, grain innoc, and the beds......
the actual is pry closer to 99%, but , im honest about it, and stoned when i work usually. so win a lot, lose a few.
100% is not uncommon here. also, i keep my avg over thousands of containers over yrs.
im glad you do good on an occasional case, as your op obviously would be overwhelmed from more than a few dozen max.
jerk: when a grower takes a shot, is outclassed, and takes a shot at annies personality because they have nothing else, hence, a tactic to take away from the basic premise presented. common in many threads. rarely works.
by your own admission, your place is filthy. you have balls to judge my op? dont take hazy shots at me, then cop a fox news "annies picking on you spin".
so no pics?
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: anne halonium]
#18741053 - 08/22/13 06:52 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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anne halonium said: well i count ALL aspects in the 95%, thats agar innoc, grain innoc, and the beds......
the actual is pry closer to 99%, but , im honest about it, and stoned when i work usually. so win a lot, lose a few.
100% is not uncommon here. also, i keep my avg over thousands of containers over yrs.
im glad you do good on an occasional case, as your op obviously would be overwhelmed from more than a few dozen max.
jerk: when a grower takes a shot, is outclassed, and takes a shot at annies personality because they have nothing else, hence, a tactic to take away from the basic premise presented. common in many threads. rarely works.
by your own admission, your place is filthy. you have balls to judge my op? dont take hazy shots at me, then cop a fox news "annies picking on you spin".
so no pics?
Dude you need to chill out you took a thread asking for help and turned it into a holier than thou thread and you wonder why you are getting negative feedback. Most people here are doing this for personal use not as a job, not everybody has as much expendable income as you do. Also why would you spend hundreds of your hard earned dollars on a SAB when you could have a nice Flowhood for that and we all know Flowhood > Still air box.
I'm sure what you are doing works great for you but calling a tried and true method no good is bound to get people pissed off.
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Re: Inverted/Upside down Still Air Glove Box, will it work? [Re: Slayer1024]
#18745052 - 08/22/13 11:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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(i'm here for the mob)
Ayo i gotcher steel air box rigth herr buddy
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