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resonant111
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Letting go is...
#18727911 - 08/19/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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describe "letting go" in your own words. for me:
letting go is..... -the ability to flow with change on a moment to moment basis -being in the moment rather than judging it mentally as "good" or "bad." accepting what is, without absolute judgment/opinion. -realizing that your self-identity is flexible as opposed to static (you can be what you think you aren't and you're not *just* what you think you are!)
overall i think it's a combination of adapting to change, having a flexible sense of self (one that can see two sides of every coin), and accepting life more than one judges it. everytime i fully "let go" i experience a deep sense of peace for myself and all of life. it's not always easy to do though....
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to me it's a release of mentally engaging with appearances - a state of peaceful simplicity
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: deff]
#18728515 - 08/19/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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For me it is letting my friends, loved ones, and family have my ego, To allow them to have expectations of it, to mould it, to be angry with it, To do with it what they Will, and I follow their needs if it is required. I/it know(s) that It is but a mechanism of interaction, and I use it where I feel it is most needed (by them), this is a transcendent surrender, an affirmation. All the while I work on my project, en causa sui.
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: tribesman]
#18738935 - 08/21/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I like the term 'let go' because I think it sums up the idea nicely. Just let go. Let, allow, release...let the energy go where it wants to go naturally. Let the forces flow their natural, unbridled course. The deviation is when we hold on; gripping and clutching is always going to be more work than releasing and relaxing.
Row row row your boat gently down the stream....you know the rest.
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The hardest time I'm having with letting go is letting go of letting go. It's a mantra that I'm stuck to.
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: r72rock]
#18739157 - 08/21/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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maybe realize you've never been holding on in the first place - so there goes 'letting go' too ?
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I find a physical process of relaxing tension in the body to correspond with letting go of mental grasping. When I've really let go I feel adrift on a sea in mind and body, free to move where I please without entanglements.
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: deff]
#18741370 - 08/22/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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deff said: maybe realize you've never been holding on in the first place - so there goes 'letting go' too ?
Hmm... touché.
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: r72rock]
#18749748 - 08/24/13 12:16 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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An episode or two of Doctor Who.
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curiosity -> interest -> obsession -> feedback -> interest -> obsession ->feedback ->...
or
curiosity -> interest -> obsession -> feedback -> letting go -> curiosity -> interest -> obsession -> feedback -> letting go -> curiosity ->...
it is an extra step seemingly to put the matter of interest down, and open the gate to the next curious thing.
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Letting go is never having to say you're sorry.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Chronic7
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Letting go is simply not holding on
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: Chronic7]
#18754607 - 08/25/13 09:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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No not by definition. Letting go is doing something after you've been holding on.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: Icelander]
#18758328 - 08/26/13 02:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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how so?
the way i see it if you stop holding on, then you've let go like if your holding onto a rope then stop holding on, you've let go same goes for thoughts or emotions, as soon as holding onto them stops they're let go of
in my experience if attachment ceases, there is nothing else to do
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: Chronic7]
#18758691 - 08/26/13 07:23 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Check your dictionary.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: Icelander]
#18759999 - 08/26/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I see no disparity between both of your definitions. Actually, they look exactly the same from my point of view
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I can't help you there.
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: Icelander]
#18760956 - 08/26/13 06:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Acceptance and getting out of your own way.
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: Icelander]
#18763218 - 08/27/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Check your dictionary.
I don't have a dictionary
Please show your dictionary where it defines 'letting go' as something you do after you stop 'holding on', just curious how letting go is defined as something you do after you've already stopped holding on
What i'm talking about is experiential anyway, if you stop holding onto something, a rope, a thought, a feeling, your idea of yourself, then you have simultaneously let go of those things
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Edited by Chronic7 (08/27/13 10:47 AM)
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: Chronic7]
#18765532 - 08/27/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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How can you let go if you're not holding anything? If you've never been holding on there is no need to ever let go. Seems pretty basic to me.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
Edited by Icelander (08/27/13 07:44 PM)
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: Icelander]
#18765917 - 08/27/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Icelander said: How can you let go if you're not holding anything? If you've never been holding on there is no need to ever let go. Seems pretty basic to me. 
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Chronic7
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: Icelander]
#18767026 - 08/28/13 02:14 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Icelander said: How can you let go if you're not holding anything? If you've never been holding on there is no need to ever let go. Seems pretty basic to me. 
Good point but if anything it agrees with what I said, that letting go & not holding on are basically the same, whereas you previously claimed they were different
I said:
"Letting go is simply not holding on"
You said:
"No not by definition. Letting go is doing something after you've been holding on"
I'm curious how letting go is defined as doing something after you've already stopped holding on, please clarify
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Edited by Chronic7 (08/28/13 02:46 AM)
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: Chronic7]
#18767394 - 08/28/13 07:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm referring to the act of holding on as in the OP. To let go one must have been holding on in the first place. As I said if you've never been holding then there can be no letting go. So simply not holding on needs no letting go. See what I'm saying here? If you've never held on then there is no letting go of anything. If you've been "not holding on" there was never a need to be letting go.
I suggest we argue this fine point for several more days.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
Edited by Icelander (08/28/13 07:13 AM)
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: Icelander]
#18767420 - 08/28/13 07:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I believe that our bodies are conduits/vehicles for the infinite energy that makes up the world. this energy passes right through us like a river. In normal everyday life we create a path for this energy that diverts it slightly into whatever we are doing, we irrigate this energy into out lives. letting go to me is the moments when you dont irrigate the energy, you allow it to simply pass through as if your body didn't interrupt its flow. quietly observe it. letting go of this body to appreciate the energy that is everything.
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: Icelander]
#18767561 - 08/28/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok i see what happened here...
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The Chronic said: Letting go is simply not holding on
When I said this i meant that 'letting go is simply the cessation of holding on', and then you disagreed by saying
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Icelander said: No not by definition. Letting go is doing something after you've been holding on.
You meant you have to hold on before you can let go, but i took what you said literally, so when you said 'after you've been holding on', I took that to literally mean you have already stopped holding on, so then how could you let go if you'd already stopped holding on!?
We both got the wrong impression of each others words, proving nothing but the inadequacy of language!
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: Icelander]
#18769770 - 08/28/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Icelander said: I suggest we argue this fine point for several more days. 
The winner of the debate will get a special 'E' tag standing for Enlightened Guru next to their name, just like the 'M' for moderators.
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