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Re: Letting go is... [Re: Icelander]
#18765917 - 08/27/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Icelander said: How can you let go if you're not holding anything? If you've never been holding on there is no need to ever let go. Seems pretty basic to me. 
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Chronic7
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: Icelander]
#18767026 - 08/28/13 02:14 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Icelander said: How can you let go if you're not holding anything? If you've never been holding on there is no need to ever let go. Seems pretty basic to me. 
Good point but if anything it agrees with what I said, that letting go & not holding on are basically the same, whereas you previously claimed they were different
I said:
"Letting go is simply not holding on"
You said:
"No not by definition. Letting go is doing something after you've been holding on"
I'm curious how letting go is defined as doing something after you've already stopped holding on, please clarify
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Edited by Chronic7 (08/28/13 02:46 AM)
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: Chronic7]
#18767394 - 08/28/13 07:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm referring to the act of holding on as in the OP. To let go one must have been holding on in the first place. As I said if you've never been holding then there can be no letting go. So simply not holding on needs no letting go. See what I'm saying here? If you've never held on then there is no letting go of anything. If you've been "not holding on" there was never a need to be letting go.
I suggest we argue this fine point for several more days.
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Edited by Icelander (08/28/13 07:13 AM)
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: Icelander]
#18767420 - 08/28/13 07:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I believe that our bodies are conduits/vehicles for the infinite energy that makes up the world. this energy passes right through us like a river. In normal everyday life we create a path for this energy that diverts it slightly into whatever we are doing, we irrigate this energy into out lives. letting go to me is the moments when you dont irrigate the energy, you allow it to simply pass through as if your body didn't interrupt its flow. quietly observe it. letting go of this body to appreciate the energy that is everything.
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Chronic7
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: Icelander]
#18767561 - 08/28/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok i see what happened here...
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The Chronic said: Letting go is simply not holding on
When I said this i meant that 'letting go is simply the cessation of holding on', and then you disagreed by saying
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Icelander said: No not by definition. Letting go is doing something after you've been holding on.
You meant you have to hold on before you can let go, but i took what you said literally, so when you said 'after you've been holding on', I took that to literally mean you have already stopped holding on, so then how could you let go if you'd already stopped holding on!?
We both got the wrong impression of each others words, proving nothing but the inadequacy of language!
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Edited by Chronic7 (08/28/13 09:25 AM)
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Re: Letting go is... [Re: Icelander]
#18769770 - 08/28/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Icelander said: I suggest we argue this fine point for several more days. 
The winner of the debate will get a special 'E' tag standing for Enlightened Guru next to their name, just like the 'M' for moderators.
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