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socraticd
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wet wbs question
#18727355 - 08/19/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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My initial try at wbs was definitely too wet. I inoculated with lions mane spores and noticed I had a bit of standing water at the bottom of the wbs jars if I left them tilted for a few minutes. I tried leaving them on their sides and turning half a turn every day, hoping to have the excess moisture absorbed.
The net result after a week is a bit of whispy myc growth in a couple, which is promising. However, more or less all the jars have some milky white discoloration at the bottoms of the jars where the excess moisture originally were found. Is this indicative of something like a bacterial contamination?
Also as an aside, the grains are more or less completely stuck together, as I didn't rinse them after the soak and quick boil.
Should I just start over? I have a couple syringes of the lions mane spores that I printed, still.
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Nakor420
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Re: wet wbs question [Re: socraticd]
#18727369 - 08/19/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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pics would help us greatly but from what you are describing it sounds contaminated to me...and DEFINITELY too wet....what tek did you use to prepare your grains?
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Sgt. Pepper


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Re: wet wbs question [Re: Nakor420]
#18727455 - 08/19/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Try smelling it, bacteria smells like rotting fruit, mold smells very musty, mushrooms smell like mushrooms!
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Juiceh
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Re: wet wbs question [Re: socraticd]
#18727603 - 08/19/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
socraticd said: Also as an aside, the grains are more or less completely stuck together, as I didn't rinse them after the soak and quick boil.
If you used gypsum in the soak you aren't supposed to rinse the grains as it rinses that off. The gypsum helps prevent clumping. Rinsing after the boil also drops the temperature of the grains way down which you don't want. You want to go from boiling straight to steam drying in a strainer. The temperature drop from rinsing after the boil would mess up the steam drying process. What grain prep tek are you using?
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: wet wbs question [Re: Juiceh]
#18727618 - 08/19/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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My favorite WBS tek 
Sounds like you need to try again.
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socraticd
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Hmm. Yeah, I used TL's tek, but it definitely doesn't look right. I'll try another batch this week. The seeds were not fully dry when I loaded the jars, I don't think. Need to let them spread out and dry more, I think.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: wet wbs question [Re: socraticd]
#18729862 - 08/19/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you follow my linked tek, you won't need to spread them out at all.
Pour the grains in to the strainer while hot. Shake them every so often, let them steam for 60 minutes.
Load jars and your moisture content will be great.
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socraticd
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Thats actually really similar to what I did, and after shaking them every 5 to 10 minutes for an hour and a half, they were still sticky. I guess I just figured they'd dried enough...
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: wet wbs question [Re: socraticd]
#18730174 - 08/19/13 10:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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If it is sticky, that is not a moisture content issue but because you boiled them and released too many starches.
Follow my write up to the T and let me know how perfect it comes out for ya
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