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xxmdogxx
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Penis envy uncut 1
#18726371 - 08/19/13 08:01 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Are penis envy uncut and similar variations such as penis envy super slow colonizers? I know how impatient people are with this kind of thing but penis envy uncut seems to be exceptionally slow at both colonization and growth, even slower than penis envy. Possibly because its hybridized or something but I would like to know If anybody has grown these and had something similar?
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PussyFart
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Re: Penis envy uncut [Re: xxmdogxx] 1
#18726442 - 08/19/13 08:20 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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xxmdogxx said: Are penis envy uncut and similar variations such as penis envy super slow colonizers?
No, there is no one variety of cube that is known to colonize faster or slower than any other variety.
When dealing with spores it is always a genetic crapshoot lottery.
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xxmdogxx said: penis envy uncut seems to be exceptionally slow at both colonization and growth, even slower than penis envy
There are way too many variables that go into colonization speed for you to come to that conclusion.
Especially so if you are dealing with random genetics, and not tested isolates.
But even then you still cannot judge an entire variety based solely on a few genetics.
Everything from moisture content, available nutrients, temperature, etc. come into play.
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Re: Penis envy uncut [Re: PussyFart] 1
#18726447 - 08/19/13 08:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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You mean uncircumcised?
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xxmdogxx
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Re: Penis envy uncut [Re: PussyFart] 1
#18726578 - 08/19/13 08:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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thanks for the info what tek do you use for isolates? I think that is the next step forward for me : )
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Re: Penis envy uncut [Re: xxmdogxx] 1
#18976045 - 10/14/13 10:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well uncut or not it is still a mutant strain. it is not found in nature and rarely ever leaves spore prints. Penis envy of all kinds is tricky. I am growing it right now and my advice is BE PATIENT! Penis envy needs a lot of time...I call him a granny strain since he is so slow. but its often said people think it grows slow because they are a bit higher in potency than other shrooms such as liberty caps or B+. I have 4 Penis Envy cakes. The first flush went very very poor...and then nothing happened for about a week a more. 
Today I woke up to 6 new pins on one cake! Second flush here we come! Like I said be patient! I had the same issue and I thought nothing else was going to happen. Give them lots of time and you will have beautiful mushrooms 
Oh and I used the rice flour/verm mixture for my cakes and the shotgun casing for their fruiting stages. Seems to be going very well. 
Hope this helped happy shrooming
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FrankHorrigan
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I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you here, Hacker.
PE uncut is consistently one of the slowest colonizers and fruiters I have ever worked with, every single time.
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Hey frank cubes are cubes. PE shouldn't fruit any slower or faster that's why we isolate good genetics 
NAH would like to chime in
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bodhisatta said: Yea, I like AA quite a bit. I know the cube is a cube thing but since AA is a perpetuated mutant I think that's why I get such slow colonization times vs the average with any other cube.
AA is not known to be a slow colonizer.
There is no one variety of cube that is known to colonize faster or slower than any other variety.
This is because there is no way to predict what genetics will come up.
This is why we isolate single strains on agar, and keep the best performers.
Maybe you can chime in in my thread.
Either way a human is a human but I bet the genes in all of my sperms might be different enough from an asian, Who is still a human is a human, to attribute enough change to see things like slower finger nail growth(or colonization) while being the same species.
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FrankHorrigan
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A cube is a cube is what we tell new cultivators to avoid confusion...mainly because it really doesn't make much difference if they grow B+ or treasure coast when they are shooting spores into half-pint jars 
But when we're talking about PE and its varieties, there are some notable differences, length of colonization and fruiting time being one. Potency is another commonly reported difference between PE and other cubes.
Not only that but some varieties commonly display similar traits. That is not to say the genetic variety to produce any possible phenotype is not present in the spores of this variety or that, just that some may tend to show up more often than others.
Work with enough cultures and you'll start to see trends too, I betcha 
Also, I just noticed that sara necro-bumped this thread, oops
Edited by FrankHorrigan (10/14/13 12:52 PM)
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FrankHorrigan said: I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you here, Hacker.
PE uncut is consistently one of the slowest colonizers and fruiters I have ever worked with, every single time.
Well, I have not had the oporotunity of working with it yet...so I could be off.
If you have time Frank, I would love some PEU swabs, if you have any currently..... pm me if anything.
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