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Re: breathing out of bag help with bad trips? [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18721258 - 08/17/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Are you older than your parents? NO. So where were you before being born? Does that mean this reality was non-existent before YOU spawned? Your no God


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Re: breathing out of bag help with bad trips? [Re: Deathcore]
    #18721508 - 08/18/13 01:28 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

i thought carbon monoxide was suppose to calm you down.... wow that was dumb... nice to know though... i'm glad i'm not gonna poison myself when i trip.


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Re: breathing out of bag help with bad trips? [Re: ayshuca]
    #18721538 - 08/18/13 01:51 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I don't believe I am god. I am too insignificant to be, I am a sinner. I try to be "good" in my day to day life, but I still have less than appropriate thoughts, I still make mistakes, and I still can't accept some things I've done in life.

If you think you are god, fantastic. Everything that has happened in your life, has lead up to what you believe now. But for me, right now, while I am sitting here typing this message on shroomery, I can confess - I am who I am, and I will continue to be so.

But this world is an interesting place. This little place we have the experience of partaking in, it's a gift. Whether it be the experience of fear, anxiety, happiness, etc... At least we can experience it. At least we are here... I would rather feel a wide spectrum of emotions over a long period of time, than... nothing at all. I believe I have just overcome another obstacle in my life while typing this (life sucks), but I still want to be here to experience it. What an interesting night.


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Re: breathing out of bag help with bad trips? [Re: Agentchewy] * 1
    #18721701 - 08/18/13 04:29 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Agentchewy said:
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SomeGuyX said:
What do you mean...?



The fear of letting go is indistinguishable to the fear of death,

Psychedelic ego death is a rebirth of the psyche.

Doing DMT really shows you how far the rabbit hole goes, you've never felt love or fear until you're hitting that third toke, and you finally realize something we all don't want to believe

You are "god"




Your mind creates it's own reality. YOU manifest that reality. If that is not god like then I don't know what is..

Well said AgentChewy


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Re: breathing out of bag help with bad trips? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18722041 - 08/18/13 09:04 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

@someguyx Right on! Things might "suck" at a certain point in life but you can make it out of most situations with effort. The privliege of life is worth the struggles.

@psilly Do you understand, despite your mind perceiving it, its not being god-like. Being god-like would imply that you took a role in DESIGNING AND CREATING the universe, NOT simply inhabiting it.

So cats and dogs are gods to? ALL living creatures are gods? wrong.. GOD wasnt created.. IT just WAS... BUT WE were created.. WERE NOT GODS... GOD is PERFECT, WE ARE INFERIOR.

GET OVER IT


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Re: breathing out of bag help with bad trips? [Re: Deathcore]
    #18722399 - 08/18/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

“Jesus Christ knew he was God. So wake up and find out eventually who you really are. In our culture, of course, they’ll say you’re crazy and you’re blasphemous, and they’ll either put you in jail or in a nut house (which is pretty much the same thing). However if you wake up in India and tell your friends and relations, ‘My goodness, I’ve just discovered that I’m God,’ they’ll laugh and say, ‘Oh, congratulations, at last you found out.”

"How is it possible that a being with such sensitive jewels as the eyes, such enchanted musical instruments as the ears, and such fabulous arabesque of nerves as the brain can experience itself anything less than a god.”


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Re: breathing out of bag help with bad trips? [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18722730 - 08/18/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

ugh... talking about god on a forum about mushrooms.

Mushrooms are far superior to this concept of a "god"


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Re: breathing out of bag help with bad trips? [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18722740 - 08/18/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

God made you have those eyes, nerves, and ears.

God made the ground you walk upon.

God made it possible for you to type that.

You are not God. Period.

A gerble has eyes, ears, and nerves too, is God a gerble?

How bout a fly? Flies have many eyes. Flies eat shit.

What about elements? Jump in a volcano since your God.. Survive that.

so Captain Planet is God too, right?

If there were no external species living would earth cease to exist?

Are plants God?


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Re: breathing out of bag help with bad trips? [Re: mushroomfred]
    #18722742 - 08/18/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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mushroomfred said:
ugh... talking about god on a forum about mushrooms.

Mushrooms are far superior to this concept of a "god"




God made mushrooms and spores.


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Re: breathing out of bag help with bad trips? [Re: Deathcore]
    #18722748 - 08/18/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlMRiVGfONU

^ Terence McKenna, "The Mushroom Speaks"


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Re: breathing out of bag help with bad trips? [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18722785 - 08/18/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Your claims don't provide enough evidence to challenge the scientific theory of how things were created.


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Re: breathing out of bag help with bad trips? [Re: mushroomfred]
    #18722796 - 08/18/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry I didn't post it to be completely relevant to either side of the argument, just thought you guys might find it interesting :P

But for my 2 cents, nobody is god in this forum. Okay? Cmon


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Re: breathing out of bag help with bad trips? [Re: Deathcore]
    #18722994 - 08/18/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Deathcore What I think Agentchewy is saying is a point from pantheism.

Which is a belief that there is only one thing in existence and that is God, or nature, or the universe, or the dao (Many people give it many names.) This doesn't mean that there is an personal or anthropomorphic God. God isn't some entity in heaven watching over you and HE created everything. Pantheism speaks that there is ONLY God and nothing else. God IS the entire universe, God IS Nature. God is one thing made from a system of many things, Just as you are one person made up of countless systems of cells and bacteria that make up your body. Each cell is an individual thing but each and every cell goes into making a bigger picture that is you.

In this same pattern of thought you ARE God because you are a piece that completes the whole. You are APART of God. As is everyone and everything that exists.

After a high does of mushrooms this is undeniable to me. When "You" dissolves and you hit ego death and as you lay in the darkness and experience pure consciousness without an ego you get the overwhelming since of being one with everything. This isn't an experience that is exclusive to mushrooms, if you take enough of pretty much any psychedelic or psychoactive compound you'll have this experience. Its most known to happen on DMT, HIGH doses of LSD or Psilocybin, and Mescaline.


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Re: breathing out of bag help with bad trips? [Re: Lee]
    #18723038 - 08/18/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

We are the Universe becoming aware of itself. We are apart of the universe. We are just experiencing the universe as a Human for a little while, until the material that make us up moves on to make up something else. God is the Universe. We are the Universe. We are God.




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Re: breathing out of bag help with bad trips? [Re: Lee] * 1
    #18723039 - 08/18/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Thank you for that Lee. That was very well put


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Re: breathing out of bag help with bad trips? [Re: Lee] * 1
    #18724836 - 08/18/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Deathcore What I think Agentchewy is saying is a point from pantheism.

Which is a belief that there is only one thing in existence and that is God, or nature, or the universe, or the dao (Many people give it many names.) This doesn't mean that there is an personal or anthropomorphic God. God isn't some entity in heaven watching over you and HE created everything. Pantheism speaks that there is ONLY God and nothing else. God IS the entire universe, God IS Nature. God is one thing made from a system of many things, Just as you are one person made up of countless systems of cells and bacteria that make up your body. Each cell is an individual thing but each and every cell goes into making a bigger picture that is you.

In this same pattern of thought you ARE God because you are a piece that completes the whole. You are APART of God. As is everyone and everything that exists.

After a high does of mushrooms this is undeniable to me. When "You" dissolves and you hit ego death and as you lay in the darkness and experience pure consciousness without an ego you get the overwhelming since of being one with everything. This isn't an experience that is exclusive to mushrooms, if you take enough of pretty much any psychedelic or psychoactive compound you'll have this experience. Its most known to happen on DMT, HIGH doses of LSD or Psilocybin, and Mescaline.




Spot on sir,

I hate to show piety and down anyone's beliefs as I am extremely open to experience

But after my two breakthroughs, one on 4 aco DMT, and the other on DMT
I always get the sensation of becoming everything and understanding existence in itself.

As einstein said,

"The most beautiful and most profound religious emotion that we can experience is the sensation of the mystical. And this mysticality is the power of all true science. If there is any such concept as a God, it is a subtle spirit, not an image of a man that so many have fixed in their minds. In essence, my religion consists of a humble admiration for this illimitable superior spirit that reveals itself in the slight details that we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds."





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Re: breathing out of bag help with bad trips? [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18726053 - 08/19/13 05:35 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

How would you define the devil?


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Re: breathing out of bag help with bad trips? [Re: mushroomfred] * 1
    #18726126 - 08/19/13 06:22 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

A fabrication of the church to keep its people in line


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Re: breathing out of bag help with bad trips? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18726245 - 08/19/13 07:09 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

The devil is a fabrication of imagination, Jesus never once spoke of the devil,



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Re: breathing out of bag help with bad trips? [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18726276 - 08/19/13 07:23 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I guess I'm only playing "devil's advocate" here...

If there is god, then what is the opposite of god.

Light and Darkness

Also aware some Satanists believe in themselves as their own god similar as described in this thread.

So if we/everything/the universe is god... would the devil be the opposite? Some sort of dark/anti-matter? Whatever is on the other side from "everything"?


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