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Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV?
    #18725652 - 08/19/13 12:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Seriously... the "ending" was meh, abrupt, and the main story is easier to accidentally rush through and finish without realizing what you're doing than NV. NV has improved game mechanics and it's add-ons seem to be a bit better.

Fallout 3 The Pitt was rather pointless for me, I refused to take "the cure" and I didn't kill any main characters, so basically I got a message saying "whatever dude okay bye DLC over" and that was it for me. No real conclusion or comprehensive storyhappenings. Mothership Zeta was okay, but it was a repetitive shootfest, lacked dialogue/backstory for the characters, and didn't feel like it belonged in the Fallout universe. Point Break had some great moments but the conclusion didn't feel very weighted, and Operation Anchorage was basically an excuse to have a DLC that's basically an arcade-style FPS with not much of a story, in a game engine that's great for an RPG but not so great for an arcadey FPS. Oh, and the main enemies in F3 are super mutants, wheras NV has a larger amount of different animals and human enemies.


In all, I can't see why the majority of people prefer 3 to NV. They're both great games in their own right, but... why?


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Synthe]
    #18725694 - 08/19/13 01:13 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I like new vegas more simply because of the huge additions to crafting, and improved (slightly) engine. And the survival skill. I thought there were significantly more glitches in new vegas though. And no more bobbleheads :sad:

But I definitely like the fallout 3 map, and style much much more. And the map just seemed bigger and more in depth. It seems like they had alot more time to work on fallout 3. And perks at every level :grin:


I just bought all the DLC's for both games a few weeks ago, so I'll get back to you on my opinion of those.

I've sunk hundreds and hundreds of hours into those games. I think alot more than the average player :lol:


Edit: I read your whole OP now :lol: I forgot how cool it was that in F3 there were super mutants everywhere. They were a real challenge.

And by the way, I recently started playing both games only on the hardest difficulty and hardcore mode. For me, the difficulty of it makes it alot more fun for me. You have to use everything at your disposal to survive. especially drugs :smirk:


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Psilosopherr] * 2
    #18725705 - 08/19/13 01:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

And the endings to both games suck hard. Sorry, I have a lot to say about those two games.


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18727236 - 08/19/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah the endings weren't so great but what I mean about the super mutants was, I DIDN'T like how many of them there were. They're all big and green and then you shoot them in the knee twice and they die at high levels. It feels weird bringing down such large beasts with so little firepower. Plus, they failed to have a conclusion to the FEV situation. It would've been nice if you could shut down the factory or something.

As for the maps... I gotta say, I personally preferred NV to Fallout 3, because Fallout 3 had way too many random rubble walls in the cities and actually had more invisible walls for me than NV. :shrug:


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Synthe]
    #18727568 - 08/19/13 01:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I prefer NV to Fallout 3 too :shrug:

Fallout 3 is great and all.. I like the maps... and the characters.

But NV just seems..... more evolved. Even though it was buggy as hell (well lets be honest.. they both were).
I personally got more overall enjoyment out of NV. The combat, the storyline, V.A.T.S.. I dunno. I just enjoyed it more.


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Shroomism]
    #18728354 - 08/19/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

NV did a lot that I liked and wished had been in Fallout 3 like hardcore mode, follower commands, and iron sights etc, but Fallout 3 wins when it comes to atmosphere and story. IMO.

Fallout 3's world actually made me feel like I was in a post apocalyptic world where laws and morals didn't count for shit anymore.

I disliked how NV was not hit as hard by nukes or radiation and as a result I disliked how everything was more civilized, it didn't feel as dangerous or mysterious.

Also Fallout 3's music > NV's music easily
same goes for characterization and side quests
I also found the story of Fallout 3 to be much more focused and worthwhile (granted the end isn't all that great but the story in NV falls flat as soon as you kill Benny.)
Oh, and Fallout 3's dlc was WAY better.

Edit: Oh and the western mojave wasteland setting of NV just totally paled in comparison to the ruins of DC and the capital wasteland, just saying.
The grittiness and bombed out buildings just felt more real and menacing to me, drew me in a lot more than little country towns that make the world look like the apocalypse never happened.


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: mushroom_sandwich]
    #18728397 - 08/19/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I'll agree with you there.. in terms of the mojave wasteland VS the ruins of DC... Fallout 3 map/terrain definitely had that super epic feel to it.


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Shroomism]
    #18728748 - 08/19/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I couldn't get into new vegas at all. I liked Fallout 3 a lot more. I had no complaints about the game. The ending could of been better, but hey, its an apocalyptic world... it wasn't made for happy endings.


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: mushroom_sandwich]
    #18728981 - 08/19/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Ohh yeah. I totally agree about the music in fallout 3 being wayyy better. Every second of 3 dogs rants are burned into my brain. And that "iron on his hip" song in NV annoys me..

Both games needed more songs though.


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18729688 - 08/19/13 08:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I liked Fallout 3 a lot more then New Vegas, I could never get too into New Vagas.
That being said, I still feel like Obsidian did a pretty good job with it, you could hardly tell it was produced by a different group of people.
My friend said they announced they have been working on Fallout 4, so if thats true, I'm super excited for that.


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: SARAtonin]
    #18730579 - 08/20/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I liked Fallout 3 a lot more then New Vegas, I could never get too into New Vagas.
That being said, I still feel like Obsidian did a pretty good job with it, you could hardly tell it was produced by a different group of people.
My friend said they announced they have been working on Fallout 4, so if thats true, I'm super excited for that.



Me too dude, SOOOO excited for fallout 4. As long as its not like fucking skyrim (not much fucking content :mad:)

But imagine the fallout 3 world on the engine they used for skyrim. Except since they already have the engine now, they could spend more time making an in depth game with lots of character again. And endless replay-ability. Since it'll be next gen, maybe the map will be the biggest, and most in depth bethesda has ever made.

I will literally cum if they make this game up to my wildest expectations. :yaysugar:


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18732003 - 08/20/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I liked Fallout 3 a lot more then New Vegas, I could never get too into New Vagas.
That being said, I still feel like Obsidian did a pretty good job with it, you could hardly tell it was produced by a different group of people.
My friend said they announced they have been working on Fallout 4, so if thats true, I'm super excited for that.



Me too dude, SOOOO excited for fallout 4. As long as its not like fucking skyrim (not much fucking content :mad:)

But imagine the fallout 3 world on the engine they used for skyrim. Except since they already have the engine now, they could spend more time making an in depth game with lots of character again. And endless replay-ability. Since it'll be next gen, maybe the map will be the biggest, and most in depth bethesda has ever made.

I will literally cum if they make this game up to my wildest expectations. :yaysugar:



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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18732066 - 08/20/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I will literally cum if they make this game up to my wildest expectations. :yaysugar:



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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Synthe]
    #18732263 - 08/20/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I totally agree Oblivion was ten times the game Skyrim was.

I was looking into Fallout4 and apparently Bethesda says...
"You'll get no tips from me. But the Mojave Wasteland was a fun place to explore, wasn't it?"

No clue what that means but I really hope they don't just do another New Vegas.


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: SARAtonin]
    #18732292 - 08/20/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I totally agree Oblivion was ten times the game Skyrim was.

I was looking into Fallout4 and apparently Bethesda says...
"You'll get no tips from me. But the Mojave Wasteland was a fun place to explore, wasn't it?"

No clue what that means but I really hope they don't just do another New Vegas.



Oh mee god, Oblivion is easily my favorite game of all fucking time.

And I've read the same thing about the mojave being a fun place to explore... I didn't like the mojave much... and if they keep going further in time with Fallout... uuuughhh..


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: SARAtonin]
    #18732322 - 08/20/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I totally agree Oblivion was ten times the game Skyrim was.

I was looking into Fallout4 and apparently Bethesda says...
"You'll get no tips from me. But the Mojave Wasteland was a fun place to explore, wasn't it?"

No clue what that means but I really hope they don't just do another New Vegas.



glad someone agrees about skyrim. I'm a huge elder scrolls fan and I can't stand skyrim.

Oblivion and morrowind for life!


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18732344 - 08/20/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I totally agree Oblivion was ten times the game Skyrim was.

I was looking into Fallout4 and apparently Bethesda says...
"You'll get no tips from me. But the Mojave Wasteland was a fun place to explore, wasn't it?"

No clue what that means but I really hope they don't just do another New Vegas.



glad someone agrees about skyrim. I'm a huge elder scrolls fan and I can't stand skyrim.

Oblivion and morrowind for life!



Skyrim is unplayable without the DLC I can tell you that much.

and yet none of the DLC came remotely close to topping Shivering Isles.


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: mushroom_sandwich]
    #18732395 - 08/20/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
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I totally agree Oblivion was ten times the game Skyrim was.

I was looking into Fallout4 and apparently Bethesda says...
"You'll get no tips from me. But the Mojave Wasteland was a fun place to explore, wasn't it?"

No clue what that means but I really hope they don't just do another New Vegas.



glad someone agrees about skyrim. I'm a huge elder scrolls fan and I can't stand skyrim.

Oblivion and morrowind for life!



Skyrim is unplayable without the DLC I can tell you that much.

and yet none of the DLC came remotely close to topping Shivering Isles.



Its happening more and more, games being released incomplete, and then they charge you more to complete it.

Its bullshit, and I hope we as consumers can find a way to encourage this to stop. :rabble:


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18732407 - 08/20/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Piracy :pirate:

Dunno about you guys but I got Skyrim and DLCs free ::cookiemonster:


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Shroomism]
    #18732426 - 08/20/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Piracy :pirate:

Dunno about you guys but I got Skyrim and DLCs free ::cookiemonster:



I has no gaming pc :sad:


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: mushroom_sandwich] * 1
    #18732450 - 08/20/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Piracy :pirate:

Dunno about you guys but I got Skyrim and DLCs free ::cookiemonster:



I has no gaming pc :sad:



When next gen consoles hit I'm probly gonna be exclusively a PC gamer. Fuck the consoles.


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18732477 - 08/20/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

same here, just need the moneyyyy.


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: mushroom_sandwich]
    #18732511 - 08/20/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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same here, just need the moneyyyy.



If you build your own computer (not as hard as it might sound) you can save tons of money on an awesome gaming rig. About 800 dollars can get you a solid machine


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18732527 - 08/20/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

800 is more or less exactly what I've been planning to spend :lol:


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: mushroom_sandwich]
    #18732566 - 08/20/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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800 is more or less exactly what I've been planning to spend :lol:



thats legit lol.

When building a computer, the hardest part is basically making sure all the components are completely plugged in where they need to be. And you have to apply thermal paste to the processor (easy)

If you read a guide, I'm sure you'd have no problem.


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18732608 - 08/20/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I'm just gonna have a tech savvy friend help me out :shrug:


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: mushroom_sandwich]
    #18732617 - 08/20/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm just gonna have a tech savvy friend help me out :shrug:



same thing I did the first time too. Just trying to explain it better


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Synthe]
    #18732964 - 08/20/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I love them both however I thought Fallout 3 was better.

I do like being able to customize your weapons in NV.  I hate the reputation system in NV and not being able to choose a perk every level up.

As far as the maps I think the Capital Wasteland was much better than the Mojave Wasteland.

EDIT:I have just started playing New Vegas recently because every time I started playing New Vegas I just couldn't get into it as much as I could in Fallout 3.


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18745117 - 08/23/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
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same here, just need the moneyyyy.



If you build your own computer (not as hard as it might sound) you can save tons of money on an awesome gaming rig. About 800 dollars can get you a solid machine




you can build a machine that is on par with the new consoles for 500$, but the more the merrier!


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: gref]
    #18745407 - 08/23/13 02:09 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Everyone i know in person that has played both prefers NV, as do I.

They were both good games NV was just a better map and had cooler shit to do IMO.
The only thing i really loved/remember at all of F3 is my first encounter with death claws.

"damn wtf is that it looks really cool"
"That fucker is strong and fast"
"oh shit there are 2 more of them"
"oh shit shit shit shit"
dead......

lol it was great.


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: elax420]
    #18752774 - 08/24/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

NV had much better gameplay (to be fair tho, most of it was ripped strait off of F3 community mods-- weapon add-ons, survival and all)

but man, Fallout 3 was faking EPIC! I remember being strait up giddy coming out of the vault into the Capital Wasteland for the first time; looking off into the distance at this immense, integrated world they had built. ffs, at one point I was scrounging around an abandoned metro station collecting cans to be melted down into screws to hold Megaton together. Oh yeah, Megaton-- that city that you could FUCKINGNUKE.




And how about the ancient tree-god that begs for you to end his life?




That game was inspired; DC made for a perfect apocalypse.


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: mathieu]
    #18753407 - 08/24/13 10:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Lol i forgot that tree dude.

Different strokes for different folks i guess :shrug:

Im just very familiar with Vegas area so i liked that part as well. I guess tennepenny towers were pretty bitching in f3


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: elax420]
    #18753762 - 08/25/13 01:09 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

just finished a fight with like 8 cazadores, i hate those little fuckers


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: AD420]
    #18755047 - 08/25/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

For me, as shallow is it sounds, it was the music. I really enjoy the soundtrack to Fallout3. Heck, I listen to it not too infrequently IRL. The soundtrack to NV grated my nerves from the instant I put the game in. Not a fan of westerns or cowboy anything, so it really missed the mark with me.


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: hankstymcbankerson]
    #18755182 - 08/25/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I understand what you mean. I liked both games but here was the difference for me:

Fallout 3: Really atmospheric, first time play it was quite mind-blowing, difficult and immersive but it was my first open-world RPG. But the ending... I was getting really hyped up for a big battle, getting the right armour, levelling up and so-on. I was so, so disappointed with the ending. Never tried any of the DLC and never played it much after my first run.

Fallout NV: Less atmospheric IMO, the landscape didn't seem as genuine to tell you the truth. It didn't even look that wild. Even more monotone than F3. But get this, the only reason I haven't seen the ending yet is because I'm just having too much fun playing it! I actually felt like I wanted to go off the beaten path and do some side-quests. I wanted to try the DLC. I get really into my character and get behind their interactions with the NPCs instead of feeling detached from it like in F3. I can't say exactly why I like NV more, I just do. It just feels like a richer and more compelling game.

That said sometimes I did want to go back to F3 because I found NV a bit dreary and sarcastic at times, and the Vegas drugs and gambling theme just didn't suit me. I also found the politics confusing and the NCR were a pain in the bum. I did like the softer themes of F3 a little more.

Oh I don't know, did I really like NV more? I must have just going by hours of gameplay and how I always seem to drop F3 only a day or to after picking it back up.


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Eukaryote11]
    #18755639 - 08/25/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Shit i guess i cant really decide, they were both damn good games.

The story was a little stupider in NV i thought, i cant even remember the ending to F3 doesnt a nuke go off and everyone dies or some shit, the whole war between the Brothers of steel or whatever they were called and the president was bitching. Same with that super mutant dude that became your bro


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    #18755667 - 08/25/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

thats a truly compelling re-telling of the story :grin:

You just finished project purity, so all the waters clean. Then it ends, and if you didn't have a save before you enter the last room that character is gone :sad:


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    #18756047 - 08/25/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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thats a truly compelling re-telling of the story :grin:

You just finished project purity, so all the waters clean. Then it ends, and if you didn't have a save before you enter the last room that character is gone :sad:



Thank you, thank you
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Oh ya i remember that. The only part of the map i definitely did not like was Capital hill, i think they really fucked that up could have been done so much better. The invisible walls really killed replayibility(if thats a word). I dont even think i went back to DC after beating the quest


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: elax420]
    #18757745 - 08/25/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

the area by the capitol building? thats the most epic battleground in the game

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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18759058 - 08/26/13 09:56 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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the area by the capitol building? thats the most epic battleground in the game

I've replayed it countless times, and am likely to relapse




yup thats the one.


I never really think about how the parts i hate in a game could be another persons favorite and vice versa, kinda blows your mind. I like wide open spaces and the Capitol just felt restricted to me.


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    #18759131 - 08/26/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

the first time or two i played it i remember getting stuck in dc forever. But once you learn to use subways to get around it makes it easier.


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    #18762657 - 08/27/13 06:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I loved Fallout 3 immediately. Hooked me right away and it was the first Bethesda game I ever managed to enjoy enough to beat. New Vegas felt empty to me, for some reason. The guns were cooler and everything, but the world design just kind of felt small and plain. F3 seems to follow at least a little closer to the original games too.


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    #18763951 - 08/27/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I loved Fallout 3 immediately. Hooked me right away and it was the first Bethesda game I ever managed to enjoy enough to beat. New Vegas felt empty to me, for some reason. The guns were cooler and everything, but the world design just kind of felt small and plain. F3 seems to follow at least a little closer to the original games too.



totally agree. whoever said fallout 3 was inspired was very correct. Just the way you're released into the world, one of the most beautiful openings to a bethesda game there is.


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    #18772694 - 08/29/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I liked that there was more diverse weapons in Fallout 3. there was more all around in NV but it seemed like the majority of them were energy so if you wanted to go a different route there wasn't as many options to choose from.


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    #18773254 - 08/29/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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F3 seems to follow at least a little closer to the original games too.




A lot of fans of the series had serious critism for F3 because they felt the opposite of you. New Vegas was supposed to return to the feel of the original games, I mean that was half the point of NV's location. Bethesda also screwed up the universe's storyline in Fallout 3.

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My opinion, New Vegas had highly superior gameplay, but I liked the environment in Fallout 3 better. I honestly can't believe some of you couldn't get into New Vegas, yet had no problem with Fallout 3's beginning in which you "grow up" in the vault. I remember my second play through I wanted to shoot myself in the head for having to replay that part. :lol:


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    #18785080 - 09/01/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My reasoning behind liking fall out 3 more is the dialogue choices were better when interacting with people.


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    #18788485 - 09/02/13 06:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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My opinion, New Vegas had highly superior gameplay, but I liked the environment in Fallout 3 better. I honestly can't believe some of you couldn't get into New Vegas, yet had no problem with Fallout 3's beginning in which you "grow up" in the vault. I remember my second play through I wanted to shoot myself in the head for having to replay that part. :lol:




I fucking hated that part. Especially on the 2nd/3rd times.

In general, I really start to dislike games that make you drag on and on in lengthy dialogues and cutscenes and whatever before you even play the game. Sometimes I just want to start playing goddamnit!
Cutscenes and too long intros and whatnot kill a lot of good games for me. I couldn't finish Batman: AA for that reason.

Fallout games though, even with some length dialogues and BS, keeps it interesting for the most part, so I don't get too tired of it.

I agree with you though.. New Vegas had better gameplay, F3 had much better environment.

I also agree that F3 had better dialogue choices.


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    #18791457 - 09/02/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

In all bethesda games, there is a part of the intro where you can make a save right before it asks if you want to change anything about your character.

I then later re-load this save every time I want to make a new character, and it gives me total customization without having to re-play the intro :cool:


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18792676 - 09/02/13 11:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The real hard question is
Fallout or The elder scrolls


I think i gotta go with The Elder Scrolls even though skyrim was kind of a let down.


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    #18792878 - 09/03/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The real hard question is
Fallout or The elder scrolls


I think i gotta go with The Elder Scrolls even though skyrim was kind of a let down.



THANK YOU. I fucking hate skyrim, even though I was soo hyped up for it.

I just started replaying oblivion yesterday, but to make it funner (its working veryy well) I've been role playing to the max, making a ton of extra rules for myself based on the article linked below.

Basically, eating 3 meals a day, not fast traveling, sleeping in inns at night, praying daily if possible, sign of atronach, (magicka doesn't recharge) carrying limited gear, not traveling in bad weather, wearing normal clothes in town,  light armor while traveling, and full heavy armor in dangerous areas, and have fur for snowy cold areas.

thats off the top of my head, also, not using the map in rain, drying clothes after being in water, pretending to be crippled or needing to rest after intense combat.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Roleplaying

I seriously recommend reading this, for any RPG really. It just enhances it so much. :yesnod:


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18794769 - 09/03/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Lol ill have to try it out. Im having a hell of a time passing the time till GTA V comes out anyway.

Sheogorath expansion MADE oblivion for me, that was so damn fun. I think im going to go back and play as a magician i always play TES games as a Archer or swordsman. The thing ive always done for extra lols is killing ever member of a certain race that i encounter (normally argonians because fuck those guys)


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    #18795799 - 09/03/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Lol ill have to try it out. Im having a hell of a time passing the time till GTA V comes out anyway.

Sheogorath expansion MADE oblivion for me, that was so damn fun. I think im going to go back and play as a magician i always play TES games as a Archer or swordsman. The thing ive always done for extra lols is killing ever member of a certain race that i encounter (normally argonians because fuck those guys)



I've never had the DLC for oblivion :nonono: :sad:

Have you ever fully explored the magic in the game? the magic is what 'makes' the game for me. Every single magic school is awesommme.

And if you take the sign of the atronach, you have limited spells per day (just like dungeons and dragons :grin:) This makes it much more strategic, and more fun.


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Re: Why does everybody love Fallout 3 more than NV? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18795936 - 09/03/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Lol ill have to try it out. Im having a hell of a time passing the time till GTA V comes out anyway.

Sheogorath expansion MADE oblivion for me, that was so damn fun. I think im going to go back and play as a magician i always play TES games as a Archer or swordsman. The thing ive always done for extra lols is killing ever member of a certain race that i encounter (normally argonians because fuck those guys)



I've never had the DLC for oblivion :nonono: :sad:

Have you ever fully explored the magic in the game? the magic is what 'makes' the game for me. Every single magic school is awesommme.

And if you take the sign of the atronach, you have limited spells per day (just like dungeons and dragons :grin:) This makes it much more strategic, and more fun.




Get the DLC (ive only got Sheogorath) its fucking awesome its like a whole other campaign full length too.

Ive never even used a magical character, unless you count a paladin type character as magic. Only ever used restoration.


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    #18795948 - 09/03/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

dude :sad:

please, make a magic character. With alteration, you can open any lock. And theres just a ton of awesome spells.

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dude :sad:

please, make a magic character. With alteration, you can open any lock. And theres just a ton of awesome spells.

AND, you can MAKE YOUR OWN SPELLS!





Ya i gotta try it. The thing that has always held me back is it seems like you would have to pause and change spells a ton. Do you just hotkey everything or what?


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dude :sad:

please, make a magic character. With alteration, you can open any lock. And theres just a ton of awesome spells.

AND, you can MAKE YOUR OWN SPELLS!





Ya i gotta try it. The thing that has always held me back is it seems like you would have to pause and change spells a ton. Do you just hotkey everything or what?



yeah dude, even on xbox hotkeys work fine (on computer they do work easier tho) And they are perfect for spells. Theres 9 slots for em too, plenty for most, if not all of the main spells you'll be using at any one time.

And I pause a ton in that game anyway :shrug:


The magic system in skyrim made me SOOO sad. But let me explain fully.

The way magic 'works' in the game, i love. The dual casting, the wards, the flow of sparks spell; everything about the way it works/flows in the game engine i absolutely love.

The thing I HATTTE about skyrim magic is, there are VERY few spells compared to other elder scrolls games. And you can no longer make your own spells :sad:


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    #18797141 - 09/03/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Oh i see what you mean, I thought magic seemed a lot cooler in skyrim myself, mainly because of dual cast. It does seem simplified. Most of that game was dumbed down for a wider audience and thats why i didnt like it that much. Plus the dragon battles were just annoying.


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Oh i see what you mean, I thought magic seemed a lot cooler in skyrim myself, mainly because of dual cast. It does seem simplified. Most of that game was dumbed down for a wider audience and thats why i didnt like it that much. Plus the dragon battles were just annoying.



And the wards for mage on mage battles, did you use them? One hand offensive spell, other hand defensive ward. Basically sword and shield. Made for epic magical struggles.

I too hated the dumbing down, it killed it for me. I mean, there aren't even any normal stats, like strength, intelligence and whatnot. Only health, stamina, and magicka. :rolleyes: :whatever: :fuckyoubethesda:


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    #18853203 - 09/17/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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THANK YOU. I fucking hate skyrim, even though I was soo hyped up for it.

I just started replaying oblivion yesterday, but to make it funner (its working veryy well) I've been role playing to the max, making a ton of extra rules for myself based on the article linked below.

Basically, eating 3 meals a day, not fast traveling, sleeping in inns at night, praying daily if possible, sign of atronach, (magicka doesn't recharge) carrying limited gear, not traveling in bad weather, wearing normal clothes in town,  light armor while traveling, and full heavy armor in dangerous areas, and have fur for snowy cold areas.

thats off the top of my head, also, not using the map in rain, drying clothes after being in water, pretending to be crippled or needing to rest after intense combat.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Roleplaying

I seriously recommend reading this, for any RPG really. It just enhances it so much. :yesnod:



You really shouldn't hype up games man, I didn't follow Skyrim at all and I fucking loved it.
I felt oblivion was really bland, even now, going back, it's just really lifeless for some reason.
Im playing Morrowind now too, and it's so far and beyond Oblivion and Skyrim imo.
The amount of content is ridiculous, the story is crazy, the level design is genius, and once you have a class that works for you, even the gameplay outshines them.. Why did they ever get rid of Mark and Recall?? My god, those spells are amazing.
My current character is a thief and I can set tactical teleport points during battles, set traps and steal peoples health, it's so gooood lol


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THANK YOU. I fucking hate skyrim, even though I was soo hyped up for it.

I just started replaying oblivion yesterday, but to make it funner (its working veryy well) I've been role playing to the max, making a ton of extra rules for myself based on the article linked below.

Basically, eating 3 meals a day, not fast traveling, sleeping in inns at night, praying daily if possible, sign of atronach, (magicka doesn't recharge) carrying limited gear, not traveling in bad weather, wearing normal clothes in town,  light armor while traveling, and full heavy armor in dangerous areas, and have fur for snowy cold areas.

thats off the top of my head, also, not using the map in rain, drying clothes after being in water, pretending to be crippled or needing to rest after intense combat.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Roleplaying

I seriously recommend reading this, for any RPG really. It just enhances it so much. :yesnod:



You really shouldn't hype up games man, I didn't follow Skyrim at all and I fucking loved it.
I felt oblivion was really bland, even now, going back, it's just really lifeless for some reason.
Im playing Morrowind now too, and it's so far and beyond Oblivion and Skyrim imo.
The amount of content is ridiculous, the story is crazy, the level design is genius, and once you have a class that works for you, even the gameplay outshines them.. Why did they ever get rid of Mark and Recall?? My god, those spells are amazing.
My current character is a thief and I can set tactical teleport points during battles, set traps and steal peoples health, it's so gooood lol



I miss mark and recall so much lol, and the COUNTLESS other spells they god rid of..

It's really hard to take your opinion seriously when you say oblivion is lifeless. It has way more depth and life than skyrim by far, IMO :shrug:

I dunno how you can even say that. Hundreds of NPC's have unique dialogue


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