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Needed Advice
    #18725644 - 08/19/13 12:51 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hello Everyone. I am new to cultivation and have found these forums as a wealth of information and so I am excited to be a part of it. So I would like to thank you for your contributions. I am onto my second grow now and have ran into a fairly interesting looking and probable contamination that I would like to find out more about. I have ran into contamination on my first grow and it was easy to distinguish and spread quickly. The jars where thrown out. During this second grow I build a still air box and was pretty thorough on the sanitizing technique. I have 4 jars that have a bluish green spot on them. Each jar has one spot only, each with a diameter of 1cm. This small area has not spread at all (visible) in a couple weeks now, and the mycelium has grown over the spots normally, as would be seen in a healthy jar. So I would like to ask if anyone could perhaps tell me what might be going on here and for sure that these need to be trashed. In the picture below you could see one spot in between the white mycelium about to get cover up.


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Re: Needed Advice [Re: ZenLife]
    #18725649 - 08/19/13 12:54 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Needed Advice [Re: ZenLife]
    #18725724 - 08/19/13 01:28 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

just give it time. It looks like it might be the green but theres no harm letting the jar sit and grow out a few more days :shrug:


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Re: Needed Advice [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18725739 - 08/19/13 01:37 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

hmmm well mycelium CAN beat a contamination but if its presence is still there it will likely smell.
i see no harm in letting those jars live man .
if they start to smell funky toss em. like mycelium has a smell but its not over whelming like you wont smell it from a few feet away . contamination has a nasty smell most of the time.

If it smells or mushrooms that grow off it look fucked up then toss it. otherwise looks like it will work

only thing i notice is all the moisture on the side of jar , jars are typically like that a little after steaming and maybe when fully colonized and the cake shrinks but yours looks pretty intense i would lower moisture 20-25 percent in the next batch.

happy shroomin :smile:


Edited by lulz (08/19/13 01:38 AM)


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Re: Needed Advice [Re: lulz]
    #18725800 - 08/19/13 02:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I purchased these jars from a popular kit making company as I have yet to dive into the jar making. I would like to share a picture of the 4th jar, in the center you can see the blue/green spot that was covered by the mycelium. My thought were perhaps this was innocent, or perhaps this possible contamination could be spreading into the middle of the jar. Also could it be okay to fruit in a separate tub these jars? I am thrown off by the lack of spreading. Thank you for the replies and the knowledge.


Edited by ZenLife (08/19/13 04:17 AM)


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Re: Needed Advice [Re: ZenLife]
    #18725812 - 08/19/13 02:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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ZenLife said:
I purchased these jars from a popular kit making company as I have yet to dive into the jar making. I would like to share a picture of the 4th jar, in the center you can see the spot. My thought were perhaps this was innocent, or perhaps this possible contamination could be spreading into the middle of the jar. Also could it be okay to fruit in a separate tub these jars? I am thrown off by the lack of spreading. Thank you for the replies and the knowledge.




That one just looks like healthy mycelium to me :thumbup:
On second glance, some at the top might be clean too.

definitely don't spawn any jars that have visible mold, or smell funky when you open them. Jars that smell strongly, or don't smell mushroomy are likely contamed


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Re: Needed Advice [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18725854 - 08/19/13 02:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hello could u help me out plz?


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Re: Needed Advice [Re: Psilocybe-sci]
    #18726623 - 08/19/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Psilocybe-sci said:
Hello could u help me out plz?



with whattttt for fucks sake?

private message me, don't jack a thread :rolleyes:


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Re: Needed Advice [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18728479 - 08/19/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Each jar has one spot only, each with a diameter of 1cm.



Here's an interesting fact. A cubic centimeter can contain over 100,000 mold spores. I would not open that in my house even if the mold becomes no longer visible.


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Re: Needed Advice [Re: Kizzle]
    #18728539 - 08/19/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

looks like aspergillus to me.
they are cooked. my condolences.

in theory, they may still fruit,
but, youll also release spores in the process.

some research papers indicate that mycotoxins,
can transfer among mycelia.

given that aspergillus is a hepta carcinogen,
do ya really wanna find out?

the pro answer is simple.
destroy any contamed cultures safely.


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Edited by anne halonium (08/19/13 04:43 PM)


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Re: Needed Advice [Re: anne halonium]
    #18728724 - 08/19/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I'd be more worried about increasing the spore load in your grow area. Regarding poisoning from mycotoxins, like what can occur to those working in agriculture when dealing with large amounts of moldy grains, that's actually a very small amount of mold. But compared to what's normally in your home you could be raising the spore load by hundreds to thousands of times in the short term.


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Re: Needed Advice [Re: Kizzle]
    #18730673 - 08/20/13 01:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you for the replies. With them facts the jars in question will have to be discarded.  Is it common for aspergillus to localize and not take over a jar?


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