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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am] 3
#18725140 - 08/18/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I got goosebumps dude. This is absolutely beautiful...
I take that back... I'm actually tearing up. I need to try LSD.
I can't tell you how happy I am for your friend. This DEFINITELY warrants further investigation. Fucking STELLAR post my friend!
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
#18725144 - 08/18/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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There has def been research into blindness and psychedelics. Blind from birth people get no visuals whilst people who were blinded later in life do.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
#18725151 - 08/18/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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that is extraordinary
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Tripsurfer]
#18725161 - 08/18/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I bet it was pretty shitty when she came down.
thats awesome though can you imagine
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Led Zeppelin] 5
#18725175 - 08/18/13 10:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm crying. That's beautiful. And yet it's illegal. To think that something so beautiful is criminalized...this woman is a criminal deserving serious jail time according to our system. LOLWUT 
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
#18725183 - 08/18/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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that's beautiful I've read about it happening on erowid before
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: halo]
#18725192 - 08/18/13 10:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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seriously fucking awesome
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: halo] 2
#18725201 - 08/18/13 10:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I remember shroomapatamus talking about 2C-T-2 being a temporary cure for colorblindness.
Could be something to do with altering the structure of the rods and cones in the retina. Just a guess
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Led Zeppelin]
#18725221 - 08/18/13 10:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Led Zeppelin said: I bet it was pretty shitty when she came down.
I don't think it be that bad when she does, as she can still see color according to the text he received.
When non-colorblind people trip colors become more vivid, and this eventually goes away.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: The Phleg] 1
#18725230 - 08/18/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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this is how colorful everything is once the acid wears off
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Repertoire89]
#18725236 - 08/18/13 10:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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rep reps the man
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Sheekle]
#18725250 - 08/18/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: rep reps the man 
WE LOVE REP!!!
Also because he is my elder, based on a potentially flawed assumption I have about his age based on his name.
I'm a 90s baby, bitch.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Sheekle]
#18725269 - 08/18/13 10:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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i took 5 hits of lsd last night with some mdma and whippets. look up synesthesia, i could taste sound and see colours.
neat story op
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: mapleleafmarijuana]
#18725290 - 08/18/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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mapleleafmarijuana said: i took 5 hits of lsd last night with some mdma and whippets. look up synesthesia, i could taste sound and see colours.
neat story op
I've had this on nitrous and also whilst on Cloud 10 Storm (JWH-250 and another I can't remember).
One really good nitrous trip I had had me experiencing each of the 5 primary senses SEPARATELY, giving me a much deeper appreciation for each one.
Maybe nitrous should be how I get magic in my life instead of DXM. Oh wait, it's EXPENSIVE AS FUCK
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: st1llnox]
#18725307 - 08/18/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
st1llnox said:
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Sheekle said: rep reps the man 
WE LOVE REP!!!
Also because he is my elder, based on a potentially flawed assumption I have about his age based on his name.
I'm a 90s baby, bitch.

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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Dest]
#18725309 - 08/18/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dest said: I remember shroomapatamus talking about 2C-T-2 being a temporary cure for colorblindness.
Could be something to do with altering the structure of the rods and cones in the retina. Just a guess
You've got one hell of a memory, that must have been at least a year ago. I just tried to find the thread about it, but I can't
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: mapleleafmarijuana]
#18725315 - 08/18/13 10:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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mapleleafmarijuana said:
synesthesia, i could taste sound and see colours.
Ever since my huge LSD days, can always see sound. Music in particular has a visual aspect, similar to fractals but not quite
CEV but very much there
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Repertoire89]
#18725316 - 08/18/13 11:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Repertoire89 said:
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st1llnox said:
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Sheekle said: rep reps the man 
WE LOVE REP!!!
Also because he is my elder, based on a potentially flawed assumption I have about his age based on his name.
I'm a 90s baby, bitch.

Recently I realized most of my students were born in the 2000s, blew my mind
Yeah, I remember when I started being a TA and remembered that most of my students... were, oh wait... older than me. Teaching at 19 is weird lulz. Fucking computer science.
Mad props to any fellow educator though
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: st1llnox]
#18725338 - 08/18/13 11:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't teach anymore, hate doing it. Would love to teach someone who was actually self-motivated but so far that hasn't been the case. Its really funny teaching older people, my oldest student was 12 years my senior and it was awkward
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Repertoire89]
#18725377 - 08/18/13 11:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fucking awesome.
Shrooms coming your way for giving that woman a new lease on life.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Global_Roaming]
#18725406 - 08/18/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank's for the replies everyone! Today was definitely one I will never forget.
I know she wont either.
I just wish a credited professional working with LSD atm would check into this and research it.
Ive actually been considering writing professor David E. Nichols about it after today. Dunno if it would have an impact/spark his interest or if he would even reply.. But it can't hurt!
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
#18725412 - 08/18/13 11:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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MAn thats fucking amazing
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
#18725470 - 08/18/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Write him dude. I'd hope he's down to earth enough to at least reply. That's a beautiful story OP, good on you for bringing that experience to her
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin] 1
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I don't believe it.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
#18725819 - 08/19/13 02:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Theres not too much actual research into this however im a true believer that given psychs a blind person can see colors. If you ask me that's a priceless gift, trust me karma will pay you back for this. Giving LSD to terminally ill people or blind people is a truly noble thing to do and I can say from experience its personally rewarding seeing a person experience things they never thought possible.
Personally ive given loads of psyches to my terminally ill dad and he personally didn't feel much but it gave him serenity, beauty and peace. Hopefully if I can get more psyches for him I will try it again
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#18725841 - 08/19/13 02:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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What did he try? San Pedro or something?
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Repertoire89]
#18725882 - 08/19/13 03:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Note:My dad has takin 4gs of shrooms without any meds conflicting and not tripped much, he has an extreme tolerance to all drugs
No I gave him real LSD, that I had tested many times, through myself and other knowledgeable psyche friends. It was some pure stuff but not white fluff for sure, since it was his first time with LSD I made the setting/environment as perfect as possible put on dark side of the moon "both our fav album". Did a few other spiritual preparations then had him drop 2 150mcg tabs. About 30-45min later he drifted off into a dreamlike state were he said he was peaceful and having faint visions.He said to me something that tripped me out. He said "I cant find her,im looking for her". I said who are you looking for and he kinda faded into the trip.I never did find out who SHE was.
He enjoyed himself but I wanted that coping with death kind of spiritual journey and he hasn't got it yet
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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OP, this is probably the most moving post about LSD i have ever read. Thank you for the tear jerker.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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This is incredible , I wonder if she will have the same experience with other psychedelic drug . You should write to the professor as people deserve to know . If I where colour blind I would like to know that there are drugs out there that could help me see the true beauty of the world we live in .
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
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Now that's something dude.. You should definitely write the professor you mentioned!
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: rulesq]
#18725920 - 08/19/13 03:48 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Too bad psychedelics never get any push for legalization if not even medical use
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: kakashi68] 1
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I don't mean to poop on this party, but how do you know (how does SHE know) if what she was seeing were these colors? I mean, she doesn't know what they look like. Color blindness is caused by lack of pigments in the retina, not some deficiency in the brain. It's like having a TV that is missing the blue phosphor. No matter how much LSD you take, you are still only going to see RG, not RGB.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: koods]
#18726096 - 08/19/13 06:05 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I can't put into words how much i love this
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: koods]
#18726109 - 08/19/13 06:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: I don't mean to poop on this party, but how do you know (how does SHE know) if what she was seeing were these colors? I mean, she doesn't know what they look like. Color blindness is caused by lack of pigments in the retina, not some deficiency in the brain. It's like having a TV that is missing the blue phosphor. No matter how much LSD you take, you are still only going to see RG, not RGB.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: deCypher]
#18726317 - 08/19/13 07:44 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here's a link to some more trip reports of people who are color blind taking LSD if anyone's interested:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_info10.shtml
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: floatingwater]
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Although color blindness is due to lack of pigment, it could be possible that what little amount of pigment is present is enhanced by the effects of LSD to the point that someone who is colorblind can notice these colors while under the influence. Similar to how people who are not colorblind notice that colors appear more vivid and some people even report experiencing colors they have never seen before. Interesting post OP.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
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AbstraKt_I_Am said: So this morning I gave a person I recently met, who is about 30, LSD.
She is very intelligent and actually teaches creative writing at a university. She told me this morning she's been writing a novel, but stuck for months at a dead end due to writers block. So I offered a potential remedy. To my surprise she was very excited to take me up on the offer.
Now we're chilling at her apartment, as I insisted on trip sitting her for her first psychedelic voyage. And about an hour in a half after dropping, its fully kicked in and shes writing diligently. I didn't know she was color blind, til she noticed she could see a new color and told me. It was red. As a concept she had no idea how to distinguish between red and green since she had never seen either. After I told her the color she had just seen was red, I immediately thought "I have to take her outside for a minute."
We walk down the steps of her complex and through the door, and her jaw drops, exclaiming "Oh my god, Wow!Is this green?!"
She almost started crying immediately out of joy and disbelief. For the first time she saw the trees, the grass, bush hedges and everything else nature had to provide in full color. It was an amazing experience for us both. We ended up just walking around out side all day til the come down. She can still see them according to a text, but who knows if it will last with her tomorrow. I hope it does!
One of the most rewarding trips I've sat ever!
So, now that I've shared this, can anyone tell me if they have had similar experiences? and has any research been done into this?
This is very interesting also you're a proper tripsitter
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: koods]
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koods said: I don't mean to poop on this party, but how do you know (how does SHE know) if what she was seeing were these colors? I mean, she doesn't know what they look like. Color blindness is caused by lack of pigments in the retina, not some deficiency in the brain. It's like having a TV that is missing the blue phosphor. No matter how much LSD you take, you are still only going to see RG, not RGB.
not that i understand the medical stuff
but if she was only red/green blind, and she saw colors she never saw before, i would assume she was seeing red/green
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Tripsurfer]
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Tripsurfer said: There has def been research into blindness and psychedelics. Blind from birth people get no visuals whilst people who were blinded later in life do.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: hidenseek1]
#18726657 - 08/19/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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this happened to someone i know
he saw purple for the first time after his first lsd trip
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: lovecheese]
#18726667 - 08/19/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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he wasnt missing much than
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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He enjoyed himself but I wanted that coping with death kind of spiritual journey and he hasn't got it yet
Maybe try San Pedro, mescy is a different beast
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
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Your story actually reminds me of this video:
That video is pretty old, like it looks like it came from the 1950s or 1960s. So if there were more test subjects during this era discussing the importance of color there could possibly be research from the 1950s/60s on the effects of LSD on the colorblind . It seems like one of those things that would have been studied at least once in human history.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: st1llnox]
#18727717 - 08/19/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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st1ll u r back from real life! how was it?
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and that's awesome OP. seeing a new color for the first time would be
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: koods]
#18727719 - 08/19/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: I don't mean to poop on this party, but how do you know (how does SHE know) if what she was seeing were these colors? I mean, she doesn't know what they look like. Color blindness is caused by lack of pigments in the retina, not some deficiency in the brain. It's like having a TV that is missing the blue phosphor. No matter how much LSD you take, you are still only going to see RG, not RGB.
I read this right before going to her apartment where I am as I type. You brought up a good point. I wanted to test it.
So first thing's first. She cannot see the colors today. Everything is grey again. Reds and greens. How ever she says she can remember the colors. So I noticed a Christmas stocking pinned to her wall. Green fringe on top and red stocking/sock underneath. I asked her which one was green, and she pointed to the top and when I asked about red, she pointed to the stocking/bottom.
So I assume she did see the true colors. Although, you could still be right, but in short. I suppose no one will know since we cannot see through her eye's and perspective.
Either way, she's in a total after glow today and very happy/grateful for her experience and that's all that matters to me.
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gulper2323 said: Your story actually reminds me of this video:
That video is pretty old, like it looks like it came from the 1950s or 1960s. So if there were more test subjects during this era discussing the importance of color there could possibly be research from the 1950s/60s on the effects of LSD on the colorblind . It seems like one of those things that would have been studied at least once in human history.
This is an awesome video. Though it doesn't say I wonder if she was colorblind(the girl in the video), from what she said it sounds possible.
Thank you for sharing!
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: dontknow]
#18727722 - 08/19/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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This doesn't make sense though, when people that arn't colorblind take acid they don't see the all of the colors human eyes arsn't designed to see. So why would this be any different?
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: volcomstoner]
#18727738 - 08/19/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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When you see things that aren't there you are not seeing with your eyes. I would assume that the colors she saw came from the visual center of her brain which should still be capable of processing color rather than her color incapable eyes.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: NotTheDevil]
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: NotTheDevil]
#18727753 - 08/19/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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my mind has been officially blown
did anyone else get fucking chills reading this?
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Legend]
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It's an amazing idea, no doubt, but for obvious reasons, I'm VERY skeptical.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: volcomstoner]
#18727788 - 08/19/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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The lsd probably stimulated some part or other of her brain making her see colors, it would not likely have an effect on the eyes.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: NotTheDevil]
#18727797 - 08/19/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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NotTheDevil said: When you see things that aren't there you are not seeing with your eyes. I would assume that the colors she saw came from the visual center of her brain which should still be capable of processing color rather than her color incapable eyes.
Oh, well I suppose that makes sense.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: hidenseek1]
#18727815 - 08/19/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: I don't mean to poop on this party, but how do you know (how does SHE know) if what she was seeing were these colors? I mean, she doesn't know what they look like. Color blindness is caused by lack of pigments in the retina, not some deficiency in the brain. It's like having a TV that is missing the blue phosphor. No matter how much LSD you take, you are still only going to see RG, not RGB.
not that i understand the medical stuff
but if she was only red/green blind, and she saw colors she never saw before, i would assume she was seeing red/green

Maybe that's who she saw, and OP just misunderstood
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: gulper2323]
#18727830 - 08/19/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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i've seen colours outside of humans visual spectrum, only in my most lucid of dreams though. so although i'm a bit skeptical, i've "seen" enough to claim that i do not think it's too outrageous to be true.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: koods]
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koods said: I don't mean to poop on this party, but how do you know (how does SHE know) if what she was seeing were these colors? I mean, she doesn't know what they look like. Color blindness is caused by lack of pigments in the retina, not some deficiency in the brain. It's like having a TV that is missing the blue phosphor. No matter how much LSD you take, you are still only going to see RG, not RGB.
not that i understand the medical stuff
but if she was only red/green blind, and she saw colors she never saw before, i would assume she was seeing red/green

Maybe that's who she saw, and OP just misunderstood 
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: koods]
#18727852 - 08/19/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: I don't mean to poop on this party, but how do you know (how does SHE know) if what she was seeing were these colors? I mean, she doesn't know what they look like. Color blindness is caused by lack of pigments in the retina, not some deficiency in the brain. It's like having a TV that is missing the blue phosphor. No matter how much LSD you take, you are still only going to see RG, not RGB.
not that i understand the medical stuff
but if she was only red/green blind, and she saw colors she never saw before, i would assume she was seeing red/green

Maybe that's who she saw, and OP just misunderstood 
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: volcomstoner]
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koods said: I don't mean to poop on this party, but how do you know (how does SHE know) if what she was seeing were these colors? I mean, she doesn't know what they look like. Color blindness is caused by lack of pigments in the retina, not some deficiency in the brain. It's like having a TV that is missing the blue phosphor. No matter how much LSD you take, you are still only going to see RG, not RGB.
not that i understand the medical stuff
but if she was only red/green blind, and she saw colors she never saw before, i would assume she was seeing red/green

Maybe that's who she saw, and OP just misunderstood 

lol
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: gulper2323]
#18727882 - 08/19/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh, well I suppose that makes sense.
Makes a lot more sense to me if shes seeing the colors
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: mapleleafmarijuana]
#18727993 - 08/19/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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mapleleafmarijuana said: i took 5 hits of lsd last night with some mdma and whippets. look up synesthesia, i could taste sound and see colours.
neat story op
Badass dude. You training for the drug Olympics? I used to do the same thing. Great times-awful moments. I love MDMA though. Definetly the ultimate euphoria/love/empathy drug I've tried I miss it..sigh.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Magicman69]
#18728345 - 08/19/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hmmm, maybe test her vision against something red/green she hasn't seen before....Bitch(no offense, your lady friend, w/e) might be lying.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Dr.Tooty]
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Dr.Tooty said: Hmmm, maybe test her vision against something red/green she hasn't seen before....Bitch(no offense, your lady friend, w/e) might be lying.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
#18728436 - 08/19/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would see if she can pass this style of test next time:
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: NotTheDevil]
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Dr.Tooty said: Hmmm, maybe test her vision against something red/green she hasn't seen before....Bitch(no offense, your lady friend, w/e) might be lying.
Im sure she was, and already did a test earlier.
'Was jokin' please don't take offense.
Her guessing green and red for Christmas decorations doesn't seem that crazy, though.
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From wiki:" It is believed that the reason why these form constants appear has to do with the way the visual system is organized, and in particular in the mapping between patterns on the retina and the columnar organization of primary visual cortex. Concentric circles in the retina are mapped into parallel lines in visual cortex. Spirals, tunnels, lattices and cobwebs map into lines in different directions. This means that if activation spreads in straight lines within the visual cortex, the experience is equivalent to looking at actual form constants."
Hallucinations from psychedelics are caused by the eye. As far as CEVs go I have no clue...And even if she saw red, how could she describe it. How would that automatically be recognized as red?
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: psi]
#18728460 - 08/19/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Im color blind awell. Rwd/green deficient just like her actually. This is mainly the reason o enjoy tripping so much is because it allows me to see these colors. My mind was blown the first time I tripped being able to see every color in full detail. Definitely is something I'll never forget.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Dr.Tooty]
#18728491 - 08/19/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry Doctor Tooty. I guess the bitch comment got under my skin a little. But no offense taken. 
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Amazing graph, thank you!
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Magic flowers said: Im color blind awell. Rwd/green deficient just like her actually. This is mainly the reason o enjoy tripping so much is because it allows me to see these colors. My mind was blown the first time I tripped being able to see every color in full detail. Definitely is something I'll never forget.
Hell yeah man, thats awesome. so Im beginning to think this is common for people with color deficiencies while tripping? Does it happen every time you trip, and on what psychedelics if you dont mind me asking?
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Magic flowers]
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Magic flowers said: Im color blind awell. Rwd/green deficient just like her actually. This is mainly the reason o enjoy tripping so much is because it allows me to see these colors. My mind was blown the first time I tripped being able to see every color in full detail. Definitely is something I'll never forget.
Have you tried doing those number tests while tripping?
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Dr.Tooty]
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"This means that if activation spreads in straight lines within the visual cortex, the experience is equivalent to looking at actual form constants."
This means that the experience comes from the brain and is the same as if the eyes were actually being used.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: psi]
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I actually haven't done the color test tripping surprisingly. But it happens y to me on literally every psych. I've taken, being 25i&c nbomes,metocin,miproci.,lsd, and mushrooms., its way more pronounced on lsd though. That's when it stands out the most, while I'm on LSD. The second most pronounced would be 25c nbome
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: NotTheDevil]
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NotTheDevil said: "This means that if activation spreads in straight lines within the visual cortex, the experience is equivalent to looking at actual form constants."
This means that the experience comes from the brain and is the same as if the eyes were actually being used.
"Concentric circles in the retina are mapped into parallel lines in visual cortex" Without the eye being shaped and formed the way it is our, visual cortex would not produce these anomalies.
And technically, every experience comes from the brain...so...nice point?
...Then again that paragraph makes less sense to me now than when I originally read it.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Dr.Tooty]
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This means that the experience comes from the brain and is the same as if the eyes were actually being used.
"Concentric circles in the retina are mapped into parallel lines in visual cortex" Without the eye being shaped and formed the way it is our, visual cortex would not produce these anomalies.
True the structure of the eye is important to the brains ability to process shape based images (like fractals) and she may see nothing if she were totally blind, however a colorblind person lacks only those structures necessary to produce the color that they are missing. So it is likely that it is the brain and not the eyes being stimulated to produce color.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: NotTheDevil]
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how would the brain stimulate colors it's never recognized? That claim makes no sense at all, your brain doesn't just make up colors, that's rediculous. An if it did then it sure as hell wouldn't be accurate showing greens as green and reds as red. Unless it had some way to do with the eye bring able to replicate these colors to the brain. This just makes NO sense at all.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: volcomstoner]
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Colorblind people probably still have the structures in their brains necessary to see color, it is their eyes that are missing structures.
It's like if the brain had three inputs one for each color but her eyes only have on signal going out so she of course doesn't see them. But the lsd activates parts of the brain independant from what the eyes are actually seeing.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: psi]
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psi said: I would see if she can pass this style of test next time:

Shit. I didn't read the text above the test plates, and freaked out because I couldn't read some of the ones on the right.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
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Not to be a negative Nancy, but she wasn't seeing new colors, just color enhancement. If she has red green color blindness, then she lacks the capacity to distinguish between the two because of a physical handicap. I bet if she looked at an apple tree, the apples would blend perfectly with the foliage.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Shroomopotamus]
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Dest said: I remember shroomapatamus talking about 2C-T-2 being a temporary cure for colorblindness.
Could be something to do with altering the structure of the rods and cones in the retina. Just a guess
You've got one hell of a memory, that must have been at least a year ago. I just tried tio find the thread about it, but I can't 
Founds it. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16596845#16596845
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: NotTheDevil]
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NotTheDevil said: Colorblind people probably still have the structures in their brains necessary to see color, it is their eyes that are missing structures.
It's like if the brain had three inputs one for each color but her eyes only have on signal going out so she of course doesn't see them. But the lsd activates parts of the brain independant from what the eyes are actually seeing.
lol this analogy reminded me of of a tv audio/video cords
its like you got yellow/white/red plugged into the tv, but you just got white/red plugged into the dvd
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: hidenseek1]
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Exactly what I was going for.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: hidenseek1]
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NotTheDevil said: Colorblind people probably still have the structures in their brains necessary to see color, it is their eyes that are missing structures.
It's like if the brain had three inputs one for each color but her eyes only have on signal going out so she of course doesn't see them. But the lsd activates parts of the brain independant from what the eyes are actually seeing.
lol this analogy reminded me of of a tv audio/video cords
its like you got yellow/white/red plugged into the tv, but you just got white/red plugged into the dvd
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: ressa69]
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I saw an elephant doing a jig on acid today. Its alright though... I didnt see it with my eyes, my brain saw it.

Im doubtful.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: ModestMouse]
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ModestMouse said: I saw an elephant doing a jig on acid today. Its alright though... I didnt see it with my eyes, my brain saw it.

Im doubtful.
Most insightful thing I've heard all day.
But isn't the perception of the thing still real in it's own right? Did the woman see red/green? probably not. Did she perceive something that was very real. Yes.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: ressa69]
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Yeah that's what im thinking
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: ModestMouse]
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I mean is there even definitive proof that I, as a non-color blind person, see red/green exactly the same as another non-color blind person?
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: floatingwater]
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floatingwater said: I mean is there even definitive proof that I, as a non-color blind person, see red/green exactly the same as another non-color blind person?
Is there even definitive proof that I, as a non-colorblind person see things the same as other non-colorblind people?
No.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: floatingwater]
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Well, what ever anyone here thinks. She had a life changing experience. That is what counts.
And Ive decided to write a letter, to David Nichols to ask him about this and see if it peaks his interest. In short, no one here can do anything but speculate for better or worse(some of yall are debbie downers) til REAL CONCRETE scientific research into this has been conducted.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
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Either it's giving her the ability to distinguish the colors or not, this would be simple to test yourself with those eye test images.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
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AbstraKt_I_Am said: Well, what ever anyone here thinks. She had a life changing experience. That is what counts.
And Ive decided to write a letter, to David Nichols to ask him about this and see if it peaks his interest. In short, no one here can do anything but speculate for better or worse(some of yall are debbie downers) til REAL CONCRETE scientific research into this has been conducted.
Period.
For the love of Jeebus, do not write to David Nichols about that. Please oh sweet jeebus in heaven do not do that.
1. He is not an M.D. so he cannot work with human subjects 2. Research involving human subjects takes years to get funding, then some years to conduct and write a good solid paper on, assuming you have sufficient data to say anything at all. 3. He will say exactly what I have already said in this thread. 4. Actually make an effort to read his papers and understand them. If you do, then you will become a better human. 5. What is your hypothesis and how would you test it?
Out of respect for what he does, consider the above. If you want someone to take you seriously, you must do that.
That woman had an amazing experience. I, among others are delighted about it. That'y why we are on this forum. Using subjective human experience as a basis for a scientific model is next to impossible. You can be clever about it and get results. But ultimately, you will never know what is happening a the cellular level. That is where all of the magic happens.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: ressa69]
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Cool story for real 
My colorblind friend dosed some supposed acid (read NBOMe). I was going to ask him about the whole color thing because I had heard of this too but he thought we called the cops on him and booked it and hid in a field the rest of the night much 
I'd believe the story, once while frying my brain on some NBOMe I saw a shade of purple/pink that I had never seen before. It was so indescribable because it was like pink/purple but so subtly different. It felt like A color I had never seen before.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: ressa69]
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AbstraKt_I_Am said: Well, what ever anyone here thinks. She had a life changing experience. That is what counts.
And Ive decided to write a letter, to David Nichols to ask him about this and see if it peaks his interest. In short, no one here can do anything but speculate for better or worse(some of yall are debbie downers) til REAL CONCRETE scientific research into this has been conducted.
Period.
For the love of Jeebus, do not write to David Nichols about that. Please oh sweet jeebus in heaven do not do that.
1. He is not an M.D. so he cannot work with human subjects 2. Research involving human subjects takes years to get funding, then some years to conduct and write a good solid paper on, assuming you have sufficient data to say anything at all. 3. He will say exactly what I have already said in this thread. 4. Actually make an effort to read his papers and understand them. If you do, then you will become a better human. 5. What is your hypothesis and how would you test it?
Out of respect for what he does, consider the above. If you want someone to take you seriously, you must do that.
That woman had an amazing experience. I, among others are delighted about it. That'y why we are on this forum. Using subjective human experience as a basis for a scientific model is next to impossible. You can be clever about it and get results. But ultimately, you will never know what is happening a the cellular level. That is where all of the magic happens.
One, Ive written the letter already.
Secondly , I was already aware he Isn't an MD and addressed that awareness in my letter. But he has colleagues who are. Besides he is simply one of very few, who are licensed to make LSD not only for his research but any others approved for medical research.
Third of all, I have questions about psychedelic research, and pharmacology that are personally unrelated to this topic Ive wrote about in my letter as well, that not you or any other member here is qualified to the same magnitude to address.
He may not even open it, which is half the reason Im writing it in the first place. If I get a reply, awesome. If not, Im still showing my admiration through intent.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
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No doubt, I'm glad your friend had a life changing experience. Legit breakthroughs in the way things are absolutely must be scrutinized. That's the way science works.
I'm glad you're writing the letter, but ressa brings up some very valid points that resonate with the way science has evolved to explain the world and universe around us.
If everyone just takes someone's word for truth without questioning it you end up with........ drum rolll............ a religion!
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: floatingwater]
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I am mildly colourblind and have difficulty differentiating red and green. I notice no change when I take acid.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: floatingwater]
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smack said: I am mildly colourblind and have difficulty differentiating red and green. I notice no change when I take acid. 
Another valid input. Thank you.
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I'm glad you're writing the letter, but ressa brings up some very valid points that resonate with the way science has evolved to explain the world and universe around us.
If everyone just takes someone's word for truth without questioning it you end up with........ drum rolll............ a religion!
True that. I still plan on sending the letter. Though I might revise some of it now before sending it.
Also, Ressa if your reading this, My apologies for my response earlier. You brought up some great points.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
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ressa69 said:
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AbstraKt_I_Am said: Well, what ever anyone here thinks. She had a life changing experience. That is what counts.
And Ive decided to write a letter, to David Nichols to ask him about this and see if it peaks his interest. In short, no one here can do anything but speculate for better or worse(some of yall are debbie downers) til REAL CONCRETE scientific research into this has been conducted.
Period.
For the love of Jeebus, do not write to David Nichols about that. Please oh sweet jeebus in heaven do not do that.
1. He is not an M.D. so he cannot work with human subjects 2. Research involving human subjects takes years to get funding, then some years to conduct and write a good solid paper on, assuming you have sufficient data to say anything at all. 3. He will say exactly what I have already said in this thread. 4. Actually make an effort to read his papers and understand them. If you do, then you will become a better human. 5. What is your hypothesis and how would you test it?
Out of respect for what he does, consider the above. If you want someone to take you seriously, you must do that.
That woman had an amazing experience. I, among others are delighted about it. That'y why we are on this forum. Using subjective human experience as a basis for a scientific model is next to impossible. You can be clever about it and get results. But ultimately, you will never know what is happening a the cellular level. That is where all of the magic happens.
One, Ive written the letter already.
Secondly , I was already aware he Isn't an MD and addressed that awareness in my letter. But he has colleagues who are. Besides he is simply one of very few, who are licensed to make LSD not only for his research but any others approved for medical research.
Third of all, I have questions about psychedelic research, and pharmacology that are personally unrelated to this topic Ive wrote about in my letter as well, that not you or any other member here is qualified to the same magnitude to address.
He may not even open it, which is half the reason Im writing it in the first place. If I get a reply, awesome. If not, Im still showing my admiration through intent.
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Im licking the stamp right now. 
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If I sound like an ass right now, well that is what 3 days of nicotine withdrawals will do to you. My apologies in advance. Ive been quite an unpleasant person today.
If you must write a "letter", send an email to one of his grad students that published a paper that you like. They are the ones actually doing most of the research in a lab. D. Nichols has moved onto doing studies on dopamine.
I once wrote a letter to J.K. Rowling about my idea for a Harry Potter sequel, because she's the only person that can really write about Harry Potter. If she doesn't write it, maybe she has some writer friends that could write it too.
I never heard back.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
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Rich kids can't get high.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: UnholyChild666]
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
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smack said: I am mildly colourblind and have difficulty differentiating red and green. I notice no change when I take acid. 
Another valid input. Thank you.
Judging by how the thread is shaping up, I feel I should add that I can identify most shades of red and green. However I have moments where I mistake green for red, red for green, all while thinking it looks brownish while being certain it is not brown.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: smack]
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Tripping is funny
I was once sure I saw a new shade of green, even though I've definitely seen all the green I could ever see before this trip.
I once thought I was god, and was amazed that I had never realized it before...but I think about existential shit all the time while sober, and this idea has definitely crossed my mind.
just a thought.
Edit: regardless, life changing trips are awesome. but, for me, they start to lose their magic when you over analyze them. I hope you're keeping all this to yourself OP. wouldn't want to ruin her afterglow. mine can last weeks after a GOOD trip.
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Re: Gave a colorblind girl LSD today, she saw red and green for the first time. Any research into this? [Re: Dr.Tooty]
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A Heroic dose of DMT (intense open eye visuals) would totally trip this girl's rift. Good shit though, I've never heard of something like this before.
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