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Legend
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Re: Homeopathy: bullshit or not bullshit? [Re: OyBroop]
#18728199 - 08/19/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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OyBroop said: i call bullshit. i have some... fuck, my minds drawing a blank. they are meant for relaxation and i got them free from wonder labs. they are homeopathy and they do not do shit.
oh, valerian root pills
oh you got bunk vlaerian root them.
valerian is very much active.
i think im expecting something to actually happen...
are you calling me a liar?
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Re: Homeopathy: bullshit or not bullshit? [Re: NotTheDevil] 1
#18728203 - 08/19/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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If they truly are homeopathic valerian pills then they probably contain very little valerian. Valproic acid is used in epilepsy treatment today and it's pretty similar to the isovaleric acid found in valerian (and foot sweat, which is why valerian smells a bit like stinky feet.)
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Re: Homeopathy: bullshit or not bullshit? [Re: psi]
#18728222 - 08/19/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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psi said: If they truly are homeopathic valerian pills then they probably contain very little valerian.
Most people think "homeopathy" is a synonym for alternative medicine. This is a matter of confusion. This is homeopathy:
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CounterCulturest said: I would like to see doctors that practice it all. Pill popping, natural, homeo... whatever it takes. They shouldn't stick to pills and expensive treatments. They should always try to find a good cheap natural cure for you first. But then again, medicine is a money making business so it will always have that edge:(
Pills and expensive treatments are the ones covered by HMO's...not homeopathic treatment...most of which lack efficacy, btw. But I agree. it sucks that most of the time we're just stuck with the treatment they want to give us.
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Re: Homeopathy: bullshit or not bullshit? [Re: psi]
#18728373 - 08/19/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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psi said: From what I understand, they often dilute things to the point where there can't possibly be any of the original substance left. I suppose a "drug" with no active ingredient is at least not going to actively harm you.
the problem in that logic is that you think you're getting treatment while you arent and that causes harm
Perhaps if there is some actually effective treatment you're forgoing because you believe that, but in itself the placebo treatment is not harming you. If the original complaint was imagined anyway, then not being treated when you think you are can be a good thing. Alternately, if you have a real but untreatable condition (or a treatable condition that you personally wouldn't have the means to obtain treatment for,) a little false hope may not necessarily be a bad thing either.
so bilking someone out of their cash for placebo while claiming it'll help isnt harm, where I'm from it's called fraud but with this crap it's hard to prosecute because they make vague claims in most cases
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Re: Homeopathy: bullshit or not bullshit? [Re: Legend]
#18728414 - 08/19/13 04:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's all in how it's represented. IMO people should be free to pay for bullshit treatments if they want, just as they're free to pay a psychic for bullshit predictions etc.
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