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Recovering from intense physiological / psychological trauma
    #18723665 - 08/18/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

When I smoked weed the first time the experience was so bad that I couldn't believe what was happening to me. For some weird reason I went back to it, maybe I thought I was just being weak or that I was in the wrong setting. Nope, same stuff. Intense, intense dysphoria, feelings of being annihilated, a totally wrong, crazy wrong reaction. I think my brain turned itself off during it and it continued to assault my body.

There were cold rushes, panic attacks, shaking, sweating, cold sweats and the feeling I was being physically destroyed. (I now have schizophrenia from this use)

My understanding is my current pain in my body is due to the tension building up inside muscles, throats and cheeks. When I dry heave or start coughing uncontrollably it really, REALLY hurts but in a way that feels really cleansing.

I have induced vomiting and it helps and coughed uncontrollably but these are both painful methods of releasing the build up. I was wondering what else someone should do to recover from such an astonishing episode of stress?

What do war veterans do? I mean seriously, this is how bad it was... Should I go get some particular muscle relaxants, have warm bath, fragrances?

I can't really relax that well. I try, but it feels better to be very edgy and anxious because that gets it out quicker.

I know, I should never again even consider marijuana LOL.


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Re: Recovering from intense physiological / psychological trauma [Re: circastes]
    #18723937 - 08/18/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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(I now have schizophrenia from this use)




How have you come to this conclusion?



All I can recommend is a healthy lifestyle. Clean eating; exercise and stretching; having goals to fulfill; and possibly meditating.

You may also consider consulting a doctor for any physical illness.


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Re: Recovering from intense physiological / psychological trauma [Re: XUL]
    #18724228 - 08/18/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Bath salts. The drug kind...

First post, let my voice be known.

You stated a similar experience I had the first time and near every time after. Quick recap of the first time for me. Drive up after school to a large mountain and park overseeing our city. Take two tokes and fly to the moon. Literally, I felt my point of view was above and behind my head and the seat design seemed like stars. It was cool, but most every time after has been "demons", feelings of social anxiety, believing weed was turning me "gay".

Needless to say I quit for a long while to get my mind right. This took a non-drug induced tramautic moment of my life two years later to feel, I may finally be ready for it, 8 months after this had happened.


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Re: Recovering from intense physiological / psychological trauma [Re: Atrium]
    #18724367 - 08/18/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

MDMA has quite an extraordinary value in trauma therapy (although illegal).
Google that. Once when I had a light hppd from shrooms after I took one MDX-pill, I was cured. But don't take my word for it: "MDMA stress trauma therapy"


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Re: Recovering from intense physiological / psychological trauma [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18728025 - 08/19/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I can't do any drugs at all. Even alcohol. I have been diagnosed with schizophrenia.


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Re: Recovering from intense physiological / psychological trauma [Re: circastes]
    #18728110 - 08/19/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I'm just saying. If you look it up it seems to have positive effects with gulf war syndrome. (Because you were asking what veterans do)


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Re: Recovering from intense physiological / psychological trauma [Re: sof4r0ckeRs1984]
    #18741849 - 08/22/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Though many may laugh at the idea, I have a few friends who are basically  allergic to marijuana. They seem to get all of the negative effects psychologically and spiritually without any of the benefits. One literally even breaks out in a rash from touching or using hemp products.

These are not people who are against the use of it either, and literally wish they could experience the same effects medicinally and otherwise from said substance but cannot.

It sounds like your experience is very similar and I do not think it specifically means you have a mental illness, though perhaps repeated attempted use of it even after you discovered it does not work well with you could lead to ptsd or various anxieties.

For the non OP, sometimes I think its the pressure of social conditioning and the expectations our mainstream society has that plays the biggest role in peoples negative reactions to many psychoactive substances. If you were perhaps not conditioned to think that being gay was a problem in the first place, or that you had any reason to hide your semi out of body experience it certainly would not have been an issue.

Just some thoughts off the top of my head, I don't claim to have any answers... just opinions.


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Re: Recovering from intense physiological / psychological trauma [Re: caogomi]
    #18744445 - 08/22/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Ah okay so there is a kind of 'allergic' reaction. I definitely experienced something like this. Like by the end I was vomiting and it wasn't even providing relief. What a bad time. And I thought it would just pass... but my body is all wrecked now.


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Re: Recovering from intense physiological / psychological trauma [Re: circastes]
    #18744454 - 08/22/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Oh but I do have a mental illness. Even now there is some confusion of what my mind is doing and it's something like an external force is acting upon it, and I abruptly stop my thoughts and continue after it seems something has been inserted into my mind. I'm diagnosed. Pretty sure it was cannabis.


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Re: Recovering from intense physiological / psychological trauma [Re: circastes]
    #18745640 - 08/23/13 04:38 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

For what it's worth, my first couple of times smoking weed weren't too stellar either. Then when I found Salvia for the first time, I was like woo hoo! This is it for me, yay :biggrin:

If you say you can't take anything (was going to recommend Salvia, :sporedrop:, Ayahuasca) then you know the score. Eat well, sleep well, exercise, meditate, get laid and stay hydrated. Follow your goals and dreams and passions. Repeat until happy :shrug:


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