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Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics
#18724122 - 08/18/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey guys, i've been a pot smoker for 3 years, though my max was 1 spliffy a week, so really not that much. On March everything changed...i was sitting in my room baked for good while listening to weather report and all of a sudden i felt i couldn't breathe...i really couldn't so i got up but my ears were whistling( the high pitch sound thing) and i felt like fainting...I turned white and my heart started pounding with palpitations and all that stuff...then i felt cold and hot at the same time, my muscles were twitching uncontrolably and had chest pains and felt like i was going to die...literally.I don't know how a bad trip is but this felt like the scariest thing i ever lived, i KNEW i was gonna die, all this lasted 2 hours till i fell asleep.The next day i was shocked and the doctor told me it was a panic attack (i never had one before and i've never been that anxious). The problem was that the panic attacks continued coming even when sober almost everyday for 2 weeks after which i took some calming herbs drops and the problem kind of subsided. After another major panic attack while smoking bud i figured it was a psychosis(?) from what i've read on the internet. The panic attacks stopped as i stopped smoking and taking those drops( just wanted to be sure that i wasn't feeling good ONLY because of the drops) and i felt really proud of myself for not taking bullshit medicines and getting rid of it on my own, it took 2 months but all is well now, though i'm still pretty anxious sometimes, especially when i think my heart is racing or i have palpitations(doctor says its normal at my age21) or something strange that goes in my heart. After all this i'm kinda scared that the horrible experience i passed will come back stronger with psychedelics, but i've been wanting to try shrooms for 6 years now. Anyone has some advice or had a similiar problem? Thank you for your time!
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: taxman]
#18724467 - 08/18/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you are an anxious person, you may not want to eat mushrooms.
It may help, it may not. A lot of people seem to get over feelings like that after a trip. Others just dwell on it during the trip and can't let go.
The truth is that if you can get over it when you are tripping, then you can get over it when you are sober.
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: taxman]
#18724488 - 08/18/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I can relate. I used to have anxiety while smoking marijuana to the point of psychosis. I used to get really twitchy as well as some terrifying and irrational racing thought patterns that I could not pull myself out of. I don't smoke weed at all anymore because of this, and I would recommend you do the same, at least for a while. I would actually recommend you not do any drugs for some time. Instead start eating healthy and go outside and run around a little. (If you don't already) The only psychedelics I've done is Mushrooms. Too me mushrooms and weed are completely different. When Taking mushrooms I have much more control over my thoughts and the euphoria mushrooms give me almost make it impossible to start going into a bad trip. Its important to not trip too often, and to only trip when you are well rested and in a positive head space.
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: yellapoo]
#18724553 - 08/18/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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This eventually happens to a lot of people after smoking weed A LOT. Or maybe a little.
It happened to me after being constantly high for a good while. I know how you feel, it's like losing a good friend, but maybe take a break and come back to it.
If you take 1.75-2 grams of shrooms your first time you'll probably be fine. Shrooms are a completely different head space than weed. Just don't smoke weed when you take them.
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: Rorge]
#18725572 - 08/19/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think that doctor is full of shit, it could have been something more severe. Did they run tests on you?
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: OmniDimensional]
#18725676 - 08/19/13 01:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Man that sucks, hopefully it doesn't have to do with you smoking weed!
I thought panic attacks happen for a reason though? Is there a reason for your panic attacks?
I would figure out if you have gotten rid of your panic attacks before you trip, because if you have one of those while tripping, it might not work out so well.
Is it possible to meditate during that? To calm your heart rate, calm your muscles, and get your head back on straight maybe try sitting down RIGHT when you have it, and focus on your breathing. Repeat some words like "It will pass with time, it is okay" or something. My friend used to have PTSD problems from child abuse, so a couple times I had to relax him. I would usually get him high (hey fuck off, it works!) and would calm him by talking to him.
Best of luck to you man, I hate to hear this happen to a fellow stoner!
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: SomeGuyX]
#18725910 - 08/19/13 03:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Man, it happened to me before, 3 times during 7 months now. It's a panic attack. Last one was on friday. I smoked a little bit of weed and then - ZANG, it started, I had the same symptoms, I was white, heart was racing, I felt like fainting, everything became so bright I couldn't see farther than my feet, I saw world shatter, stones on the ground started to make geometric patterns, colors were shifting, and, you may think I'm crazy, but I enjoyed it. Of course, I couldn't get up and my legs were numb AF but I enjoyed it and it lasted for like 30 minutes, because I STOPPED TO THINK ABOUT IT, SAT DOWN ON THE GROUND AND STARTED TO TALK WITH MY FRIENDS. Panic attacks are manageable. I smoked more weed after an hour or 2 that day and yesterday I took 3.5g of shrooms and I am fine since then. Just don't make a big deal of it, you gotta feel stronger than that.
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: juriics]
#18725915 - 08/19/13 03:44 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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juriics said: Man, it happened to me before, 3 times during 7 months now. It's a panic attack. Last one was on friday. I smoked a little bit of weed and then - ZANG, it started, I had the same symptoms, I was white, heart was racing, I felt like fainting, everything became so bright I couldn't see farther than my feet, I saw world shatter, stones on the ground started to make geometric patterns, colors were shifting, and, you may think I'm crazy, but I enjoyed it. Of course, I couldn't get up and my legs were numb AF but I enjoyed it and it lasted for like 30 minutes, because I STOPPED TO THINK ABOUT IT, SAT DOWN ON THE GROUND AND STARTED TO TALK WITH MY FRIENDS. Panic attacks are manageable. I smoked more weed after an hour or 2 that day and yesterday I took 3.5g of shrooms and I am fine since then. Just don't make a big deal of it, you gotta feel stronger than that.
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: SomeGuyX]
#18725948 - 08/19/13 04:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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This sounds more like a panic reaction than psychosis - it also sounds like a whitey - which in my experience usually means low blood sugar. What's always helped me is eating/drinking something really sweet. Even if it's just a couple of spoons of sugar.
I used to suffer from panic attacks. The way I got over them was repeatedly confronting what was causing the attack - so over time, exposure to the stimulus reduced the attacks so they don't happen anymore.
I used to get anxiety on weed too, but as above, I started smoking up and getting higher and higher, so I could confront it head on. Last Fri I was stoned out of my tree, seeing visuals etc. I lay down and a flash of anxiety surged through my body. I took a deep breath and let it pass. On Sat I smoked up and felt the best high I've had for a long time. Just take baby steps, confront it, and let it go.
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: misterjingo]
#18726016 - 08/19/13 05:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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First of all thank you for all your advice, you've proven to be awesome people! Lately I figured out that every panic attack and anxiety problem starts when I think I have some problem with my heart. I can link this to the fact that my uncle and a friend of mine (age 21) died from it and my dad had severe problems too. though i had tests like ecg enzymes and the doctor told me to relax cause i have absolutely nothing. Sometimes though it has been quite hard cause I unwantedly convince myself that i do have a problem even if my heart is in perfect condition as shown by several tests. That first Panic attack started everything, i've never been thinking about this :/ . As said, even if I got rid of the panic attacks I'm sometimes a bit anxious a feel some chest tightening, but that could be triggerd by gastrointestinal reflux.
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: taxman]
#18726073 - 08/19/13 05:50 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Same thing here with marijuana. I don't really like it unless I'm alone on the couch with a pizza or something.
Mushrooms are way more social for me.
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: taxman]
#18726562 - 08/19/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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taxman said: First of all thank you for all your advice, you've proven to be awesome people! Lately I figured out that every panic attack and anxiety problem starts when I think I have some problem with my heart. I can link this to the fact that my uncle and a friend of mine (age 21) died from it and my dad had severe problems too. though i had tests like ecg enzymes and the doctor told me to relax cause i have absolutely nothing. Sometimes though it has been quite hard cause I unwantedly convince myself that i do have a problem even if my heart is in perfect condition as shown by several tests. That first Panic attack started everything, i've never been thinking about this :/ . As said, even if I got rid of the panic attacks I'm sometimes a bit anxious a feel some chest tightening, but that could be triggerd by gastrointestinal reflux.
Modern medicine today is a joke and should be taken with a grain of salt, in my opinion. You should take measures to insure it is not heart problems. Diet is very important and if you eat shitty that will effect your overall health. Hydrogenated oils instantly effect your arteries (sticks immediately to the artery walls) when you eat food that contains it. I would suggest making sure you eat a clean diet and see if that helps.
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: OmniDimensional]
#18727262 - 08/19/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'LL work on my diet , its a good idea. i do however believe that nothing is wrong physically , i think the problem (it is fading slowly away) is in my inner self. the fact is that i can't be sure that psychadelic won't take me to that horrible place again. I don't know how a bad trip is, but i think its very similiar to what i've gone through, with the difference that in my case it was horrible, Like if somebody was with a chainsaw ready to cut you in half and you were SURE he was going to.
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: taxman]
#18727379 - 08/19/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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My opinion has always been that the right time to try psychedelics is when you don't even have to ask whether it's a good idea or not. When you're able to go into it without fear or expectations, and accept that it may be frightening but, you can get through it and that it's all in your head.
My first time using psychedelics was a couple months ago. I'd been interested in them since I first learned about them in grade school and had wanted to try them for several years. But I am so glad I found them when I did and not earlier, because in retrospect I was not ready for that experience. But since I was in the right place in life where I felt generally content emotionally and confident that it was my time to take the plunge, it was the most beautiful, mind opening and rewarding experience of my entire life.
You will be ready the day you know you are ready. But even then it will probably surprise you, because there is no way to imagine what it's like until you've been there.
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: Redpill]
#18727438 - 08/19/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey sorry to hear it man. But it just sounds like anxiety, not psychosis fortunately. Weed can make me pretty panicky. More so than psychedelics. Though once you hit the level of bad trip on psychedelics it's infinitely worse. So it's a bit of a gamble either way. Personally i'd say to stay away or dose low. Even though I think weed is more prone to causing anxiety, your long term reaction wasn't that normal. I've been crazy freaked out on weed before, but always woken up feeling 100% normal minus being tired.
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#18727758 - 08/19/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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For the record, a psychedelic bad trip is way worse than a panic attack. I remember having a panic attack on marijuana when I was younger, and then a bad trip on mushrooms... Now I laugh when I think about the bad high, a bad trip just blows it out of the water.
Whatever it is, work through it before taking a large dose of something trippy.
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: SomeGuyX]
#18728181 - 08/19/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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ID say take some have an ounce of weed on hand to smoke, roll it all up in blunts, large tv with something interesting playing, try the movie Samsara without music, play your own beats, stuff that you enjoy.
This anxiety you deal with just need to be alpha'd, can't let that wack shit bring you down, stay positive, remember you dont neeed the answer to solve the problem, nor the answer to the answer man.
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: thelastoneleft]
#18728254 - 08/19/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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thank you all for your enlightenment! i wanted to add that i have smoked 4 times after 2 weeks that it happened and had only 1 attack in these four times, after that though i completely stopped
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: taxman]
#18728333 - 08/19/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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taxman said: thank you all for your enlightenment! i wanted to add that i have smoked 4 times after 2 weeks that it happened and had only 1 attack in these four times, after that though i completely stopped
just get high as fuck and when that anxiety creeps up crack a crooked eternal smile its way.
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: thelastoneleft]
#18728874 - 08/19/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'll figure it out, thaks for you help and support, i'm really curious about how psychedelics will feel. I think as the whole psychedelic experience as something deeply spiritual. I'll try when i won't ask if i should like you guys suggested, I never rushed it anyway, i've been wanting to try for 6 years now, i guess there is a reason it didn't happen yet!
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: taxman]
#18728887 - 08/19/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Many people have had a MJ psychosis
since that is just the MJ lasting much longer than expected, and visuals/audio hallucinations
I had it before, it went away after few weeks no probs since
I don't smoke weed because of it
Psychedelics are no prob since, but I didn't take psychedelics for a good while after that psychosis (many months) The psychosis was like demons/faces in every object staring at me, not walking directly home, paranoia, door bell ringing often and going out to open the door - but noone there etc. Lasted 2-3 weeks, got gradually less and less (paranoia lessened and gone now)
Don't smoke too much weed, it's not good for you (had smoked up to about an 1/8th a day or so for a while of the strongest I could get) 
weed on the other hand is a problem for me now after psychedelics can't smoke weed anymore, become too self-conscious and antisocial when I smoke it psychedelics do the opposite for me
have since taken 600ug of LSD on several occasions, no probs , died a few times on both lsd+mushrooms without problems i'm just very sensitive to weed it seems, it affects me negatively psychically , affects my thoughts negatively , psychedelics never do
the reason weed doesn't work for me everyday anymore is after psychedelics it becomes easier to recognize your mistakes and what you must do to stay happy smoking everyday made me unhappy, so can't do that anymore
Edited by lessismore (08/19/13 06:08 PM)
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: lessismore]
#18729096 - 08/19/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds like typical anxiety attack. I experienced myself these symptomes nearly everytime 
I used to have some Xanax just incase 
It's not psychosis, it's anxiety as it's finest.
Same boat as me brotha!
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: GoddessOfLove]
#18729726 - 08/19/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wish you luck.
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: SomeGuyX]
#18729914 - 08/19/13 09:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ahh-- it really is a relieving thing to face such a frightening event such as passing out on mushrooms/weed, and then coming on here to just end up reading reports of people experiencing very similar things.
It happens. This has happened to me twice now-- what you titled "psychosis" sends off the vibe that it was actually a panic attack, just like the doctor said-- anxiety can really skyrocket when you undergo intoxication from a drug (especially cannabis or mushrooms)-- your thinking is heightened, you think of what makes you anxious, and anxiety becomes a drug of itself.. I've gone through this twice now, but both times having been exacerbated by mushrooms.
For me, it frightened the fuck out of me.. Like you I am a naturally anxious person when the concern of my internal organs become involved.. This capricious event of just having an enormous wave of anxiety flow through you, and sending you into a panic attack exacerbated by a hungry stomach and a brain that wants to function.. It was frightening for me, but the only thing it left were worries. But soon you realize that you really have nothing to worry about and that you are just fine. I thought I induced brain damage after having simply what can be called a "whitey", like the other gentleman called it...
I can imagine what sort of a relief it is for you to read from a number of people that these things have happened to others, and continue to happen, because I know I found it a relieving feeling.
Just plan better. If marijuana sends you down an anxious road, stay away from it for a while. If it always sends you down an anxious road and that is its effect on you then completely stay away from it. It's that simple. It's when overthinking becomes involved is when things become difficult. The mind should naturally tell you what you do like and what you don't.
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: GoddessOfLove]
#18730958 - 08/20/13 05:14 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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HofmannBlotter said: Sounds like typical anxiety attack. I experienced myself these symptomes nearly everytime 
I used to have some Xanax just incase 
It's not psychosis, it's anxiety as it's finest.
Same boat as me brotha!
It lasted 2-3 weeks and faces in everything staring at me
Coke bottle on the table turnef to a face Bushes outside etc
Maybe xanax yeah always paranoid if i smoke a lot So i quit
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: taxman]
#18730974 - 08/20/13 05:31 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Some of that happen to me ones ,the feeling of couldn't breath was what freaked me out . I didnt have the other stuff as bad but some. I dont think its anything serious just anxiety bad anxiety . So I just stopped smoking
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: jonnymushroom]
#18731106 - 08/20/13 07:02 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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drink water and control your mindset....well controlling it can be difficult on serious psychs, but you should at least be able to influence it and change trains of thought, which change vibes of the experience
realize what you are thinking about, and analyze whether it is positive enough to keep on that path of thought......
if you take psychs, try meditating on the reason why you want to take them for atleast 10 minutes (i prob sit there for an hour just thinking about it and how i want the trip to go.)
Seriously, you need to be quick on your feet and notice negative thoughts ASAP if you trip.....but then again my most positively influential trips were "bad trips" from intense fear/doses....having friends or a sitter can be very reassuring, but I prefer solo trips
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: anarchris420]
#18731219 - 08/20/13 07:48 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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great to hear all of this, and i'm reassured, i guess i'll start working on myself! when the time will be i think i'll start with a low dose like 1 gr, is that the best option or do you recommend a higher one?
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: taxman]
#18731475 - 08/20/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've had bad experiences with weed much more (percentage-wise) than with any psychedelics. If it were me in your place, I'd definitely try a smaller dose at first, in lemon tek so they kick in fast. But that's me, it's hard to recommend things to another.
For me personally, shrooms usually put me in a place of power, confidence, health, cheerfulness, one of the best states possible really. Hope they do the same for you.
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Re: Marijuana Psychosis and now scared to take psychadelics [Re: anarchris420]
#18731734 - 08/20/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks but I'm fine tripping, I have never had a bad experience .I was talking about the weed made me feel like a could not breath and all scared so I had to stop smokeing it's been over 5 years since I smoked. I wish I could enjoy it but I cannot. lol
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