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shroomlowie



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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Spacerific]
#18740925 - 08/22/13 04:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also when my eyes were open it was only as I was coming out.
When YOU THOUGHT you were coming out. Just because you remember who you are and what planet you're on again, doesn't mean all the Salvinorin cleared your system. Read the guide again, the part about keeping eyes closed.
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Has anyone ever had the experience where everything goes fast just before you fall into reality? Also I forgot to include this, it took me at least 10 minutes just to understand how I got in my room? I don't remember going up my stairs? Buying the salvia? Going to get it? Who my friends were, nothing.
Yeah. Because you still had Salvinorin in your system. You were only partially back. Your head was filled with memories from the trip. You're actually back when all the visuals stop, the body sensations stop and you know 100% what happened, where you are, etc. That's quite a while after the Roller Coaster ends.
All of what you've described is the first part of the trip, what I call the Roller Coaster. Then you did what my guide said not to do: Open eyes straight after the roller coaster, miss more than half the trip (the second part, quite long as duration) and that's why IMO you had a weird experience. Next time just keep your eyes closed some minutes longer than when you think you're back, you'll see there's plenty of trip left, but it's more subtle.
As for the light, it's pretty self explanatory. Low light. You don't believe me, smoke in daylight and open eyes, see what happens.
About the music, maybe some people prefer silence or whatever. For me, the trips with headphones and instrumental music offer the most immersive visuals, the absolute very best in what Salvia has to offer. Silence has no rhythm so the visuals are more boring and there's less of them. Music with words ruins the "being something else" effect, because it draws you back to this planet sooner. IMO that is useless if you're trying to trip, so avoid words in your music. Salvia will speak its own alien language. The headphones over speakers is a no brainer. Try it, see the difference.
Just to clarify, I'm not arguing with you, I'm not trying to say you're wrong in anyway cause you most likely aren't.
I wasn't in control of my eyes, cause I'm pretty sure I shut them to start off with, maybe they just opened themselves?
I'm going to follow your guide next time I do it, the only reason I didn't last experience was because I never came across it.
Next experience I have I will pm you and let you know how it goes, do you have any idea on the success rate of having a good trip following your guide? And by good I mean not bad, I've heard no salvia trips are exactly good 
Thanks for all the help and advice
Edited by shroomlowie (08/22/13 05:25 AM)
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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: shroomlowie]
#18743511 - 08/22/13 05:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Same here, no arguing or anything of the sort 
I would say the vast majority of my trips now end up feeling great. If you can avoid all those interference sources, what you have left is a wonderful voyage to far away magical lands follow by a very chill 20-30 minutes. I've shared my herb with friends many times, and I'd say about 2 out of 3 have a fairly decent trip. Maybe a bit overwhelming if it's their first time, but I've never had a friend panic or feel horrible or anything like that. Back in the day, before I knew to avoid light, I gave some to this girl during the day, and she got a bit scared. Now I know it had a lot to do with open eyes in daylight.
I have a few friends that seem to be impervious to Salvia, they've smoked several times, doses that would make me climb the walls and for them nothing happened. I don't know what's up with that, maybe they'd need stronger extracts than what I have
-------------------- Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.
For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16
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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Spacerific]
#18792771 - 09/02/13 11:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Had a good Salvia evening yesterday.
I've done some incredibly stupid shit the day before, like the monumental fuck-up of the year, an unbelievable clusterfuck of amazing proportions, captain of the failboat, extraordinaire. I was feeling like complete and utter crap, and I'm pretty sure that it's only my previous aya trips and and and acid trips that kept suicidal thoughts at bay.
So in that state, knowing that Salvia is indeed more powerful than our flimsy human attachments, I decided to do some Salvia therapy. I filled my hookah with some 5x extract, which now in retrospect I am starting to suspect it's losing some potency. If I had stronger, I would have used stronger.
And I hit it. I hit it as hard as I could, all proper context, the aim being to simply sever the connection with my current identity, and the shitty reality I've come to inhabit. The Salvia realms are at least for me, a fine loving caring embrace, compared to some of the rugged corners of this place. As a brain immersed in a body, the chemical balance offered by the Salvia is much more caring than the one offered by a depressed human body filled with stress.
And off we went. I went to the place where things happen, where the back of my head touching the pillow, extends and expands, and the inner visual field becomes 360, stretching to the horizon. I become an observation point, part of that inner world, part of the ground (?) in that area, I become glue keeping bricks together, I become actions, surfaces, I become the feelings of surfaces as they move or interact, I become the intention of inanimate objects to be moved, to interact, to experience all manner of colorful experiences. Vibes and feelings are objectified into actual shapes. Granite monoliths intending to have different color skirts and shoes next Sunday in church, mechanical fractal objects talking telepathically about how much sugar they like on apple pie and so on. Very specifih human experiences (not my own) are projected deep into completely alien entities, environments and interfaces. Silicone space snails mixed with boring small town life, the thoughts and issues of some random teenage girls in some random school somewhere.
While there, there is no Spacerific, I have literally forgotten what it's like to be connected to the body of a human, or any vertebrate for that matter. I am bodyless. Just an observation point, suspended in mid-air looking ahead. I am stretched and swooshed and swirled liquidly. I am colored away into a space that's light years deep inside the alien rabbit hole.
I sort of start to come back, I realize I'm in the control area of a homo sapiens body, and realize that I've attached myself way too tight to it and its troubles, and there's wear and tear at certain points. A sort of identity blisters, for using the same tool too much in the same way without break. Breaks are good, from being human as well. It's very healthy to be 'ed out of your standard identity, and Salvia can definitely facilitate that process, giving you more control.
I came back more disconnected from my previous troubles. Space and perspective has been put between me and them, the immediacy of the horrible emotions and pain has been lessened and healed. There are more things to me than this one human I inhabit when awake. There are more states and identities to myself than Spacerific (I mean my RL name here, who I am in RL on a regular day). The universe is larger than my little fish tank, and there are many things to focus on, other than what expectations I didn't meet this week. A MUCH larger context is available.
Deeply recommended to depressed people, anxious people, tormented people in general. If all your mental landscape is inhabited only by your physical life, and all that's not working well right now, then yes, a journey through the Salvia portal will help you. You can't be told about this, you have to connect and experience it directly.
I for one trust this plant. I know especially if you're going through a bad time it's hard to trust and let go, easy to keep clutching in panic. Through previous testing and seeing it take care of me, I now trust this green wonder with my worries and troubles, and have seen that trust well repaid once again. It does give wisdom and perspective, relevant to you, in the moment. If you trust it, it may help you as well
-------------------- Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.
For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16
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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Spacerific]
#18793195 - 09/03/13 05:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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