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Can I salvage this grow? (contam)
    #18723896 - 08/18/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I'm growing in 8 three gallon buckets. One of them has a contam, I think.



Is there anyway to salvage it? And if not, if I pick the pins, are they unsafe to eat if they haven't been in contact with said contam?


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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #18723968 - 08/18/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Where do you think you have a contam? If it is contaminated, then there is no way to salvage it you would just have to throw it out. I don't see anything that screams contaminated to me. If you are talking about the little white dots, they look like hyphal knots to me.


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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: WordSoup]
    #18724150 - 08/18/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yellow in the bottom left corner.


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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #18724229 - 08/18/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Looks like metabolites.


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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: mushmagic]
    #18724255 - 08/18/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Looks ok to me. Lots of knots popping up, should explode in a few days :super:


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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #18724341 - 08/18/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yellow is okay.  I remember you saying that you had pooling water.  <<<< This is probably the cause.  Metabolites are not so bad.  Try fanning it a little more, and, if you're misting, lay off a little bit.


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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: freebananas]
    #18724370 - 08/18/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Word up. Thanks guys. I was hoping I was wrong about it being a contam because it happens to be the bucket with the most pins.


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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #18724689 - 08/18/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Here's the thing though. I know you can't really see it in the photo, but there's also some green on top of that yellow.


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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #18724692 - 08/18/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

In the photo it looks brown, but it's not.


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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #18724740 - 08/18/13 08:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Well if you want a better opinion then take a picture that reflects how it really looks.

Either way, if it really is green, then definitely isolate it.  If it has spread within a period of 1/2 a day - 1 day, then move it outside.  You can probably still get a first flush out of it due to the fact it's already pinning, but you don't want to increase the spore load in your grow area.


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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: BloodKil]
    #18724925 - 08/18/13 09:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

This is the best I can do. It's a cell phone cam and the flash blocks out some of the color.



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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #18724946 - 08/18/13 09:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Here's the thing though. I know you can't really see it in the photo, but there's also some green on top of that yellow.




I can see it just fine.

You can try to get a flush out of it. But you are correct, that is a contaminant and it is certainly going to affect your grow.

See if you get some fruits on the first flush and then toss it.

Looks like your grains had a problem.


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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18733015 - 08/20/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Not sure. All of the grain was mixed together. Is it safe to consume fruits grown out of a contaminated substrate?


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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #18733042 - 08/20/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

as long as the fruits don't get contaminated.


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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: naturesrevolt]
    #18733814 - 08/20/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I came home only to discover that unfortunately I've got two more contaminated buckets on my hands. It just sounds pretty dangerous to be eating mushrooms fruited from a moldy substrate. Does anyone have any experience with this?


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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #18733833 - 08/20/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If its not green and there are just pools of water with yellow..it should be just fine.

Pics so we can verify if they are contaminated or not?

I would suggest, ease up on your misting and increase your fanning.

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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #18733939 - 08/20/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Here's a few I managed to snap. Best I could get.







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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #18733946 - 08/20/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The first and third of those are from the same bucket. Not sure about the white patch, but like I said, it shares a home with the contam in the first photo.


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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #18733967 - 08/20/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hmm, yea I would say not good for the first and third picture. Middle pic looks like its just metalobites. What are your temps looking like? You wanna try to keep them at 69-76.


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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #18734001 - 08/20/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Metabolites, even with the green on top? The temp is probably in the mid 70's. Room temp. (room temp is fairly warm at the moment).


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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #18734050 - 08/20/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I can't see the green in that pic. Looks yellow to me. First pic I can see green..second pic looks fine. Let it grow out a couple more days then see.:grin:


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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: Jman420]
    #18734102 - 08/20/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Lay down a salt paste over the green. This should slow it down enough for you to salvage a flush. That being said the green your seeing is the mold sporulating all over the place. the longer you leave it like that, the more mold spores are being jizzed out all over your grow space.


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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #18734169 - 08/20/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

How do I make a salt paste? Also, just ripped this from another post:

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Forget the salt paste.  That's for if you see a dime sized spot when the flush is nearly complete.  It might buy you a day or three to finish picking.

When you get mold at or before first flush, your spawn was contaminated or the bulk sub not properly pasteurized.  You need to toss it out now and start over.  You might try setting it in a shady spot outdoors with the lid off, to finish.  The fruits from it will be fine, but you need to get it out of your house.
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So is it too late? Also, while I can't necessarily put anything outdoors, I can put them in my garage. Either way, there will be a lot of bugs around. Wouldn't this be a pretty big risk as well? And also, are these molds really that dangerous? (Not doubting RR obviously. Just looking for more input. Admittedly, I haven't spent as much time reading up on contams as I should have. Just wondering what the hazards are.)


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Re: Can I salvage this grow? (contam) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #18734382 - 08/20/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah its probably trash tek time for this one. Most molds as far as I know are fairly harmless, but some are not. No matter what having billions of mold spores being released in your grow area is never a good thing and you will want to get anything that you can't salvage out of there asap.


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