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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: saam234]
    #18779834 - 08/31/13 12:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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there was a tiny bit a blue light. Also my brother made his little bitch just before my trip.



Are you sure you're back? And if so, is English your first language?

Did you read that part where it says
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- Be alone or be with one sitter who can SHUT UP for 20-30 minutes.



Seems to me like a pretty normal reaction, if you try to Sally trip with noise around you, especially your little brother being annoying.


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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Spacerific]
    #18782978 - 08/31/13 08:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

haha french is my first language :thumbup:

Also, I was alone and there was no noise at all and complete dark except this little blue light from my fan :mad2:

My bro just made his teen bitch attitude before I went upstairs.


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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: saam234]
    #18783232 - 08/31/13 09:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Damn, I'd have tried it when I was younger, but all I ever see or hear about is people hurting themselves, running into traffic or toward it, and being scared as hell.  I don't have shroom trips like that, so is salvia every fun or cool, or does it always have some terrifying aspect to it?

Also, 100th post FTW!


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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: refried] * 1
    #18785585 - 09/01/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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saam234 said:
haha french is my first language :thumbup:

Also, I was alone and there was no noise at all and complete dark except this little blue light from my fan :mad2:

My bro just made his teen bitch attitude before I went upstairs.



Well you know what they say, if at first you don't succeed, read the guide and try again :thumbup:

I had to give it 3 shots before I got anything decent out of it. First two were complete duds for me as well. That's no reason to quit, IMO Salvia is well worth it once you get going.

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Damn, I'd have tried it when I was younger, but all I ever see or hear about is people hurting themselves, running into traffic or toward it, and being scared as hell.  I don't have shroom trips like that, so is salvia every fun or cool, or does it always have some terrifying aspect to it?

Also, 100th post FTW!



People running on Salvia? I don't think that's Salvia you're speaking of mate :biggrin:

I'd say no, not every trip has something terrifying about it, in fact for me most trips weren't terrifying at all. On the contrary. On some of them you laugh and laugh until your ribs hurt, more than you've ever laughed on any stand up comedy show ever made. Some of that stuff is really really crazy, in the best way :lol:

Go watch the videos of "Eric your host" and see what it's like. Try Gardening on Salvia, Writing a letter to Congress on Salvia, etc.


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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Spacerific]
    #18785786 - 09/01/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

One aspect I loved in my mini-trip is that I still knew that the trip's lenght is maximum 15 minutes. I don't remember the exact reason, but some people were harassing me with dumb shit and I was saying: you'll see in 15 minutes, I'm right. Do you think it's always like that? Because with retrospection I loved that powerfull change of perception and if you still remember the trip lenght while tripping you're kinda immune to bad trips.


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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Spacerific]
    #18786072 - 09/01/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

lol those are great vids.

I'm thinking of shit like this though:



Does it matter how much you ingest?  I mean, what if I just did a little bit, would that leave me more in control?

Has anybody here ever grown their own salvia?  Is it difficult?


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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: refried]
    #18786505 - 09/01/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Salvia trips scared the fudge out of me.

I thought the TV was talking directly at me, and it kept transforming and swirling all weird. Haha I have bout .5g of some 30x extract by ecstasy...been having it for about a year :lol:


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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: refried]
    #18787846 - 09/02/13 12:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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lol those are great vids.

I'm thinking of shit like this though:






:facepalm::picard::smbfacepalm:

Unbelievable.

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Does it matter how much you ingest?  I mean, what if I just did a little bit, would that leave me more in control?




Of course it matters. Yes if you take less you'll be more in control, you'll have a less spectacular roller coaster or none at all, just some chill dreamy times. The guide still applies, do it right, no matter how much you smoke.

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Has anybody here ever grown their own salvia?  Is it difficult?



Of course. And no, it's not hard.


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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Spacerific]
    #18788254 - 09/02/13 04:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My most intense salvia trip was with a bong, you can read it its in my sig.

As for music and all that stuff I think you should just do it in a dim room lying down in a comfortable reclinable chair. Depending on how strong you want your trip to be but nothing from this world goes with you to salvialand. If you don't do such a strong dose then usually what happens is the music gets warped into some weird sounding stuff.


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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: acapuchinu]
    #18793313 - 09/03/13 07:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I see you are all using bongs but since Salvia is a herb can it be used in a vaporizer? I have a glass one and it does wonders for DMT


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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: excalibur127]
    #18793544 - 09/03/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Do some more googling and testing about that, and compare. I think the opinions go both ways. Some say it works some say it doesn't, that most of the Salvinorin will not get released, just remains in your herb.

Depending on your vaporizer (electric, lighter flame on that glass, etc) you'll probably want the highest temp setting it can go to. Fill it up, inhale and let us know what comes of it.


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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Spacerific]
    #18793646 - 09/03/13 09:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for your insight!
In the meantime I have googled a bit and found that the vaping temperature for salvia is quite high and it seems most vapes are not able to reach it. Extracted product seems to work better than regular leaf too.

I have the VaporGenie Glass. I've read it's possible to just take of the top and use it as a regular glass pipe, so as soon as I get some leaves I will give it a shot and post results here!


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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: excalibur127]
    #18915565 - 10/01/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for this thread. It's made me want to try salvia again.
Going to order some plain leaf I think.

I bought 20X last time (about 5 years ago) and had a few very intense/strange trips, and decided it wasn't really for me. But it turns out I was doing it wrong.
I was alone the first time I tried it, and was completely unprepared for it. I was expecting it to be somewhere in between psilocybin and cannabis, so I got quite a shock when it hit me.

I was in my room and it was still daytime. So, way too much light. I was in a comfortable chair with headphones on though so I got that part right at least.
The headphones didn't stay on my head very long because the music was too much when I started to get those prickly sweats, and it felt like my brain was being turned into plastic. I took most of my clothes off and spilt the bong at the same time because I was still holding it. I didn't have chance to put it on the table after the third toke hit. It was terrifying at first but I managed to get my cool back and sit down again.
I could hear high pitched voices which were giggling and chanting, and there was some weird vortex in my room. Kind of looked like a 'swirl/spiral-blur' effect on photoshop or similar software.
I noticed there were some cups and bottles on my table, but they had grown smiley happy elf-like faces. I think that's where the voices must have been coming from.
I was too shocked to keep my eyes closed, so that was never going to happen.

I'm going to try it like you said though and hopefully will get some inspiring visions from it. Your art comments are what's making me want to give it another go.

That's the main reason I love mushrooms. Indescribably beautiful closed eye visuals with perfect form, colour, depth etc. I've just started to try and recreate some of the mushroom visuals I get. I've noticed that I get shown the same places/patterns near enough every time I take them, so the visuals are becoming more and more familiar each time I trip. I will have quite a few images ready pretty soon.

That painting you posted on page 1 is amazing. I'm going to look into that guy.

Sorry for the long post. :tongue:


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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Psilocypher]
    #18916163 - 10/01/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You can get extract as well, it's less smoke more substance, just don't pack a full bowl. Remember there's a delay between when you smoke and when it hits you. It's probably slightly longer than for weed, but when it comes with the full on teleport, you'd better have your bong down, seat belt on, and be all set for the roller coaster hyperspace ride.

:mindblown:

The cities, the endless landscapes, all the good things that float and swim and spiral out there in the Salvia lands, it's fucking beautiful man, like Terence McKenna said, you see in minutes more art than has ever been produced in the whole history of mankind.

Put in a few more attempts to dose it right and get the right setting, insist on having your eyes closed before it hits you fully, and it should work AOK. For me it also really helps if I lay down on the bed, on my back. The contact surface between the back of my head and the pillow, that's where things start to extend into each other, leading to unspeakable ?!#@>$!$!#$???@#$*@&#^$???

Unlike shrooms and aya, where you see visions and nice things, like in front of you, with Salvia you teleport, shapeshift and you ARE nice things.



That's Hundertwasser. Google him as well for some interesting paintings and awesome Hobbit architecture :lol:


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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Spacerific]
    #18916488 - 10/01/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I will be more prepared next time.

Do you ever hear anything? Like voices or music or whatever.
I know you said you listen to music on headphones, but have you ever tried it in silence and heard the hallucinations as well as seeing them?
If so, what did they say or sound like?


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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Psilocypher]
    #18916852 - 10/01/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I find a big bong with a regular lighter works perfectly fine for me  :shrug:

Straight up level 5 trips with X5 extract  :trippinbawelz:


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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #18917297 - 10/01/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This is an awesome post! You've successfully convinced me to try salvia :laugh: my friends who've tried salvia were underwhelmed... Now I know why! They used a bic lighter with some 20x I believe.
Thanks for the post.


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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: MitchyDee]
    #18919574 - 10/02/13 04:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

These kinds of threads are hilarious to me...been seeing them for so many years.

It's quite simple, kids...

Smoke it in darkness with eyes closed
Dont have any of your loud dipshit friends there
Regular lighter is perfectly fine...no need for a blow torch
Silence or Ambient music
Hold your hit in and then surrender your ego
Let the Salvinorin A take control and show you the Truth...

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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: FrenchMachine]
    #18919584 - 10/02/13 04:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well the lighter / torch debate will probably rage on for centuries. I live and will probably die on the side of the heavy duty torch believers, and in fact just days ago I picked up this here torch lighter that came all the way from China.

http://dx.com/p/105-mini-windproof-butane-jet-torch-lighter-black-yellow-186999

I was curious if they actually send this stuff over with free shipping. They do.

Haven't tested it yet, probably a good time to do so today :biggrin:


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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Spacerific]
    #18919729 - 10/02/13 06:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think the Mazatec Shamans ever used torch lighters, so I guess that clears it up.
But please can you answer my other questions about auditory hallucinations?

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