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Well I don't know what could have been in such a strangely worded package, but from the sound of your experience it does sound like Salvia with maybe too much light/open eyes. There was a teleport, alternate identity in your head. Sounds like Salvia to me.
I'd try again with the same stuff, minding the set&setting, eyes and headphones. I don't think you need sitters, I never had any nor felt the need for them. Just put the candles out of range, put the bong away before the stuff completely hits you.
Oh and did the smoke itself smell and taste minty? Before burning you don't really get that specific mint smell.
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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Spacerific]
#18750555 - 08/24/13 08:41 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Spacerific]
#18750886 - 08/24/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow incredibly informative post. I've been feeling like trying Salvia because my friend has it often and has had very profound experiences on it and has recommended it to me. But my life has been really hectic the past month and did not feel like I was in a good mindset the time he actually had it in my face ready to give a good rip. Anyone feel like going into what sets it apart from other dissociative? I've done high doses of DXM and low doses of ketamine but my friend told me you can't really compare salvia to any other drugs without informing the user. Very interested in it, just the sheer amount of horror stories and people who just hate salvia is making me a little reluctant to try it. Again good info. Solid post friend
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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Grateful Dead]
#18750905 - 08/24/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Spacerific]
#18751390 - 08/24/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have to get my hands on some. I have always been dieing to try it
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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Blak] 1
#18752253 - 08/24/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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my friend told me you can't really compare salvia to any other drugs without informing the user
Your friend is spot on with this. I've told friend's it's not explainable in words, it's like the Matrix, you can't be told what it is, you have to see it for yourself. Then once you see it, you will also not be able to tell others what it was like 
The dissociative part is just one effect of it, remember it's also a very very visual, potent psychedelic, that kicks in in a matter of seconds. From baseline to the very peak in 5-10 seconds. No OEV's but crazy insane CEV's, together with the fact that you fully stop being you, being human, sometimes being anything you'd even recognize with that particular homo sapiens brain you've been using for a lifetime. Full on complete with memory wipe, until you get back.
Once I was coming back from a trip, and I told one of my best friends he's an asshole. He asked why? Then I realized the answer would have been something like "Because why didn't you modulate the blue-violet transwarp plasma portals in the right sequence, so the rebels could warp back in after their assault and thus escape the @#%^$@#^'s retaliation? Now they're all dead over there and their race is facing millenia of warfare, possibly complete extinction. We could have ended it all here today and the rebels would have lived!" Both the rebels and the other stuff they were fighting were quite far from human, though I think the rebels had 2 arms and legs, from what I remember.
Took some minutes to realize where I am, what planet and dimension this is, and that my friend had nothing to do with said transwarp assault portals
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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Spacerific]
#18753163 - 08/24/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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No, it smelt pretty bad. It made the bong smell really fishy. I tried it a second time out of my own bong and it made it smell like fish also. If I try salvia again, I will grow it myself first.
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Fish-flavored Salvia. Very very suspect substance indeed
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For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16
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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Spacerific]
#18753714 - 08/25/13 12:42 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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first time i smoke it i used a bong, said to myself i was never going to try it again after my first trip, my first psychedelic and it was pretty scary i'm just curious, have any of you tried a gravity bong? i'm sure that would force every bit of smoke into you
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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: liamfriar199]
#18753722 - 08/25/13 12:47 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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liamfriar199 said: first time i smoke it i used a bong, said to myself i was never going to try it again after my first trip, my first psychedelic and it was pretty scary
What did you smoke, what kind of extract and in what setting?
I'm starting to think (after some years of psychedelics now) that the reason I like them, and the reason I also liked Salvia from the start, is probably that I am very easily bored in this reality. The Salvia realms were so different, so much novelty per unit of time, that to me it was completely magical. Might have been a very different story if I had started with 50x or 100x extracts, like I see some youtube kids do.
I don't think the gravity bong makes that much of a difference. I mean if you really want to increase the Salvinorin that hits you, you can just get stronger extract and smoke that. From the sound of it your experience was overwhelming anyway. You should probably smoke less if you take it again, not more.
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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Spacerific]
#18753776 - 08/25/13 01:16 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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What do you mean by extracts? Can you just smoke the salvia freshly picked or do you have to process it before being able to smoke it?
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OmniDimensional said: What do you mean by extracts? Can you just smoke the salvia freshly picked or do you have to process it before being able to smoke it?
Extracts are made by taking the Salvinorin from say, 1g of leaves and putting it on another 1g of leaves. That new gram now has the potency of 2 grams, so that would be a 2X extract. One can repeat this procedure over and over, resulting in 10X, 50X, whatever. Google around a bit if it's not clear.
You can smoke basic leaf, especially if you've been smoking Salvia for a while, due to the reverse tolerance over time. Just let dry and smoke.
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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Spacerific]
#18755037 - 08/25/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah on that subject of extracts, they are normally far below what they are advertised for. The stuff that my friend had and I almost was going to smoke that night was advertised at 150x or something very high it was like 80$ a gram I think? He said he looked it up and it was really around 50x so he was mad, but he did break through the second time he smoked it so I guess 150x is not needed But good info Spacerific I'll have to try it one day even though I am hardly board with this reality in fact it never ceases to amazing me. But I can still have a great time on psychedelics.
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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Grateful Dead]
#18755292 - 08/25/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Grateful Dead said: Yeah on that subject of extracts, they are normally far below what they are advertised for. The stuff that my friend had and I almost was going to smoke that night was advertised at 150x or something very high it was like 80$ a gram I think? He said he looked it up and it was really around 50x so he was mad, but he did break through the second time he smoked it so I guess 150x is not needed But good info Spacerific I'll have to try it one day even though I am hardly board with this reality in fact it never ceases to amazing me. But I can still have a great time on psychedelics.
I've never smoked anything above 20x, and Salvia showed me a world of colors that literally got me into painting. Art school and everyting.
Crazy extracts are not required for most people. My dealer at the time mentioned that I seem to respond very strongly to Salvia, so I might have some sort of bonus there, but I've seen other friends respond well also.
I've had very strong trips with 2-3 tokes of 10x extract, that is, strong enough that I was laughing pretty much uncontrollably, to an extent that the muscles around my ribs literally hurt for several days after that. Now obviously if I had done that with 50x extract, it would NOT have been a pleasant experience.
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For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16
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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Spacerific]
#18755801 - 08/25/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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60, in my mates bedroom whilst he was tripping aswell, i didn't know he was going to be tripping until i just took my hit, i was leaning against the wall and started getting sucked into it, from what i can remember i was in a white space, there was nothing but white, with a giant esculator running up with both my mates that where there standing on top of it talking to me, and they where saying stuff about the wall i was leaning on, when i start to come down i can remember myself drooling and kicking the wall. afterwards i asked my mates if they where talking and saying stuff about the wall, freaked me out ahha
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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Spacerific]
#18756725 - 08/25/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'll keep that in mind
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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Grateful Dead]
#18757115 - 08/25/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Awesome, any tips to help with salvia make the trip worth it for sure. A sitter that doesn't try to ask to many questions is always nice, feel bad for people that have annoying sitters that try to talk to them the entire trip asking if they are alright lol.
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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Spacerific]
#18757235 - 08/25/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is it anything vaguely like dmt where it feels like your reality is being quickly warped and weirded out? Lol
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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: Space]
#18758064 - 08/26/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would think DMT is a bit different, salvia is all, ok im going to take your perspective turn it inside out upside down and invent knew thinks your mind couldnt imagine sober, dmt i think is more, im going to bring out all your emotions and make you appreciate life if that makes sence.Quote:
Space said: Awesome, any tips to help with salvia make the trip worth it for sure. A sitter that doesn't try to ask to many questions is always nice, feel bad for people that have annoying sitters that try to talk to them the entire trip asking if they are alright lol.
setting, mood, a place you know well is imlortant, turn your phone off, as you said, a good sitter, as long as you have all of the above sorted you can not go wrong
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Re: How to smoke Salvia for best results [Re: liamfriar199]
#18779261 - 08/30/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just tried salvia 10 minutes ago and it pissed me off.
I was in complete dark with some cuban instrumental music, but there was a tiny bit a blue light. Also my brother made his little bitch just before my trip. So I started a bad trip but salvia went over before I could really enter in a horrible experience. Now I'm just pissed.
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