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Yerba mate as a psychoactive-experiments..?
    #18723662 - 08/18/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I have been experimenting with yerba mate for quite some time now. I have been finding small results. Most of the time drank traditional way with the gourd. I am going to do a experiment, grinding all the herb down to a dust and boiling it for some time, making a thick and potent brew. I am first going to try this using the microwave. I just started drinking it now, I added honey and milk to make it less nasty tasting..(plain yerba mate is great..Just not when its this strong :P)
4:00 PM : starting to drink
4:11 PM : The taste is really strong, I have drank maybe 1/4th of the mug, and I am already starting to feel very aware and awake. Much like drinking couple cups of coffee in the morning.
4:15 PM: feeling quite a lot of mental clarity. Whilst listening to music the sounds are very sharp.
4:25 PM: still the same effects almost done the drink, just brewed another in the microwave, this time with some passion flower as well. Things seem to be brighter though, If I stare at the window the light coming out of it seems brighter and more vivid then usual.Again sound is very vivid.
Second brew.:
4:30: starting my second cup, that has been boiled in the microwave for 2 minutes along with some passion flower added.
I seem to have a lot of energy from the caffeine but it seems different no jitters or anything just pure CLEAR energy.
4:40: half done second cup, my fingers feel slightly weird. Everything I do seems to be spot on, typing is simple as hell and I am typing really fast. Definitely going to try this before going to work, I think it will give me very positive effects. Music sounds better then ever.
4:50: finishing off the cup, lots of lose powder on the bottom drank that too, although gross lol.
5:00: To end, I feel extremely good, I feel strong and full of energy (Please note, nothing like you get from coffee) colors are sooome what brighter, and sounds are much much more vivid and clear. Also feel as if my eyes can read things very fast, fingers typing fast, I just feel faster and more vivid, along with insanely clear thoughts.
Will continue to do experiments, will be boiling some, some time soon and reduce it down a lot.
Thanks for reading! If you have not tried yerba mate you should its great!


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Re: Yerba mate as a psychoactive-experiments..? [Re: Grandsoul]
    #18723688 - 08/18/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

What brand?


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Re: Yerba mate as a psychoactive-experiments..? [Re: s240779]
    #18723702 - 08/18/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I am drinking Rosamonte :smile:


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Re: Yerba mate as a psychoactive-experiments..? [Re: Grandsoul]
    #18723716 - 08/18/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Yerba mate is the shiznit

I still prefer the Yogi brand Kava Kava Tea

They are both solid drinks


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Re: Yerba mate as a psychoactive-experiments..? [Re: plektheplek]
    #18723723 - 08/18/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

have actually not tried kava kava very intrigued though.


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Re: Yerba mate as a psychoactive-experiments..? [Re: Grandsoul]
    #18723728 - 08/18/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)



A couple bags and you'll feel it


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Re: Yerba mate as a psychoactive-experiments..? [Re: plektheplek]
    #18723733 - 08/18/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

nice I'll give it a shot : )


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Re: Yerba mate as a psychoactive-experiments..? [Re: Grandsoul]
    #18723754 - 08/18/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I drink yerba mate every day when I wake up, it's my healthier/cooler alternative to coffee. It's custom in my country to do that

maybe it's that I'm used to it but I just feel a stimulant boost and mental clarity from it, not many drug like effects or anything


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Re: Yerba mate as a psychoactive-experiments..? [Re: Grandsoul]
    #18723763 - 08/18/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I thought mate just had caffeine in it. The few times I've used it, I've made a big french press full and had a few cups over an hour or two, and similar results: just felt very focused and energetic, while the same amount of coffee would have made me feel stressed out and uncomfortable. Possible that I just imagined that, but interesting anyway. Probably better for your stomach than coffee too, less acidic.


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Re: Yerba mate as a psychoactive-experiments..? [Re: plektheplek]
    #18723770 - 08/18/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

yo just make sure you aren't using boiling water for the yerba mate.
if the water is too hot, it kills off all the good stuff. use HOT not boiling.

dont use hot water for kava kava either.

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A couple bags and you'll feel it




4 bags in half milk half cold water.

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Re: Yerba mate as a psychoactive-experiments..? [Re: Grandsoul]
    #18723772 - 08/18/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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nice I'll give it a shot : )




You won't be disappointed

I'm drinking a glass now after a bottle of wine and there is a solid solid buzz going on right now


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Re: Yerba mate as a psychoactive-experiments..? [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #18723777 - 08/18/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I thought mate just had caffeine in it.





Mate has a stimulating and invigorating effect that refreshes both the body and the mind. High dosages can produce euphoric feelings with clear wakefulness. The appetite is usually suppressed. Because these effects are induced by at least three different substances (caffeine, theobromine, and chlorogenic acid), the effects of mate are not identical to those of caffeine alone. Side effects or unwanted effects are unknown (Holzl and Ohem 1993, 511).

Holzl, losef, and Norbert Ohem. 1993. Ilex. In Hagers Handbuch der pharmazeutischen Praxis-, 5th ed.,
5:506-12. Berlin: Springer.

Rätsch, Christian. 2005. The Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Plants: Ethnopharmacology and its Applications. Park Street Press. (http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15479784)


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Re: Yerba mate as a psychoactive-experiments..? [Re: plektheplek]
    #18723780 - 08/18/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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nice I'll give it a shot : )




You won't be disappointed

I'm drinking a glass now after a bottle of wine and there is a solid solid buzz going on right now




careful though, kava is known to cause some liver problems alone, not to mention combined with tylenol, or alcohol.

it is good stuff tho i agree, get some fresh root so much better.


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Re: Yerba mate as a psychoactive-experiments..? [Re: Legend]
    #18723783 - 08/18/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

oh yeah dude totally. DONT boil the water!!

and mate feels like caffeine at first but its quite a bit more


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Re: Yerba mate as a psychoactive-experiments..? [Re: s240779]
    #18723788 - 08/18/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I thought mate just had caffeine in it.





Mate has a stimulating and invigorating effect that refreshes both the body and the mind. High dosages can produce euphoric feelings with clear wakefulness. The appetite is usually suppressed. Because these effects are induced by at least three different substances (caffeine, theobromine, and chlorogenic acid), the effects of mate are not identical to those of caffeine alone. Side effects or unwanted effects are unknown (Holzl and Ohem 1993, 511).





Ooh, so it's like coffee with chocolate in it? Well that's sign enough for me that god loves us and want us to be happy. Can't wait till breakfast tomorrow.


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Re: Yerba mate as a psychoactive-experiments..? [Re: Legend]
    #18723790 - 08/18/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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nice I'll give it a shot : )




You won't be disappointed

I'm drinking a glass now after a bottle of wine and there is a solid solid buzz going on right now




careful though, kava is known to cause some liver problems alone, not to mention combined with tylenol, or alcohol.

it is good stuff tho i agree, get some fresh root so much better.




I've got some fresh root, it is just SO BITTER compared to the pleasant taste of the yogi tea


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Re: Yerba mate as a psychoactive-experiments..? [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #18723794 - 08/18/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I thought mate just had caffeine in it. The few times I've used it, I've made a big french press full and had a few cups over an hour or two, and similar results: just felt very focused and energetic, while the same amount of coffee would have made me feel stressed out and uncomfortable. Possible that I just imagined that, but interesting anyway. Probably better for your stomach than coffee too, less acidic.




yeah i make mine in a french press too. ever since my gourd broke. works very well.

a lot better than coffee IMO. only way i like coffee now is expresso though.


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Re: Yerba mate as a psychoactive-experiments..? [Re: Legend]
    #18723805 - 08/18/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

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Grandsoul said:
nice I'll give it a shot : )




You won't be disappointed

I'm drinking a glass now after a bottle of wine and there is a solid solid buzz going on right now




careful though, kava is known to cause some liver problems alone, not to mention combined with tylenol, or alcohol.





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Ok here is the story on Kava:

Kava has been used extensively by pacific ocean cultures for thousands of years without serious health side effects beyond occasional skin rash. The problem only occured when western pharmaceutical companies looking to cash in on kava bought up large amounts of kava and turned it in to supplement pills, without realizing that only the Root of the Kava can be used. They included leaves and stems and bark in the pills that contained hepatoxic liver killing chemicals. This resulted in some people getting sick, and ever since people have had the impression that kava kills the liver, when in fact properly produced Kava (using a water, not alcohol extraction of the root only) seems quite safe in moderation, as long as it is not mixed with alcohol or certain other drugs.

Properly prepared the only side effect from kava should be a skin rash, and that is transient and only occurs in heavy use.

Conversely, several studies now demonstrate the potential medicinal benefits of kava, including several applications in the treatment of cancer and possibly alzheimers. Paradise Kava has a compilation of these studies on their website.
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Re: Yerba mate as a psychoactive-experiments..? [Re: s240779]
    #18723815 - 08/18/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

good read. thank you.

i've been using kava kava in addition with my valerian root, and cannabis for night time.

with ginkgo biloba, ginseng, and yerba mate in the morning time.

has had an outstanding positive effect on my life. in many many ways.


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Re: Yerba mate as a psychoactive-experiments..? [Re: Legend]
    #18723821 - 08/18/13 05:20 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Cool. I've heard good things about all of them. Do you always take them all together?


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