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    #18723739 - 08/18/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hello Everyone.

Forgive me for posting another thread on Fukushima so soon. Here is why I have done this: The other thread ballooned to monstrous size and was mostly bogged  down in back and forth discussion with other members, which means that the information sources themselves were probably missed by many. Many people probably only saw the first article, which may not have been from the most reliable source. Therefore, I have made this thread containing the compiled information sources only. After this, I will make no further posts on the topic unless some major new development takes place. I am posting this simply because I think the information is important and people might like to see evidence stripped of all the  irrelevant arguments and all the survivalism tips. This thread is about just the evidence and the facts, not opinion, speculation or doomsday prepping.

A note on why this belongs in the pub and not the conspiracy forum:

The pub's sub forum description says "a place for laid back discussion of ANY topic". Therefore there is no reason this particular topic should be barred from the pub.

Furthermore, I am not alleging any conspiracy, I am just providing all the relevant information I could find on a current event of great importance. This has nothing to do with aliens, the new world order, or any other conspiratorial topic. This is no more a conspiracy thread than a thread talking about hurricane Katrina, Chernobyl, or the deepwater horizon BP oil spill. These are well known events that are obviously real and discussing them has nothing to do with conspiracy. I would also like to point out that several of these sources are from an academic database, and are therefore not coming from conspiracy websites. The rest are from google news service.

Finally, let me point out that if you are not interested in this topic, you can just close this thread and go elsewhere. But some people might be, and for that reason I have provided this information in a convenient compilation stripped of my own personal opinions. If you do not have patience to read all of them, I recommend reading at least the first one, which is from a peer reviewed academic book from the  university database and does a great job of summarizing the facts of the situation.



Without further ado:

Nuclear Energy: Technology from Hell

http://lokayat.org.in/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Nuclear_Energy-Technology_From_Hell.pdf


With hydrogen explosions ripping off the roofs of reactor
buildings, three reactor cores spewing radiation unabated, one spent
fuel pool on fire, another spent fuel pool suffering an explosion that
scattered its fuel rods for miles, water poured in to cool the reactors
flowing out from the bottom due to damaged pressure vessels and
containments, millions of litres of radioactive water accumulating in
the basement of the plant and draining out into the ocean, radiation
levels in the Pacific Ocean spiking to unheard of levels, Reactor 4 of
the plant tipping due to softening of the ground and threatening to
collapse, groundwater in danger of getting contaminated, extremely
dangerous MOX fuel in Reactor 3, fallout from Fukushima detected
as far away as North America and Europe within a week of the accident
... the Fukushima accident is in an apocalyptic downward spiral.

Clearly, the Fukushima accident is worse than Chernobyl. The
Chernobyl accident involved a single reactor. The Fukushima accident
involves three reactor cores (of Units 1, 2 and 3) and four spent fuel
pools (of Units 1, 2, 3 and 4). Each spent fuel pool has fuel rods
equivalent to several cores each. In all, that’s the equivalent of as many
as twenty reactor cores!
Fukushima is clearly the biggest industrial
catastrophe in the history of mankind.

the situation at the spent fuel ponds of Reactor units 1 to 4 is also
very bad. Indications are that at least in one of the pools (or if not
there, then in the reactor core of Unit 3), the fuel is reaching criticality.


In Reactor 4, the big problem is that the building housing the
spent fuel pool has partially sunk and is threatening to collapse

But what if the building housing Reactor 4 collapses before the
fuel is shifted into canisters? Gundersen, a kind of living legend in the
field of nuclear engineering, recommends that if this reactor topples
due to an earthquake or some other reason, the people of Tokyo should
simply get on a plane and get out of there.

BIGGER THAN CHERNOBYL
Reality—Level 8 Accident

Japan’s Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency now admits (in its June
6 press release) that the Fukushima nuclear plant, in just the first week
after the accident, released 770,000 trillion becquerels of radiation,

Furthermore, this figure does not include the
radiation released into the ocean, which is probably as much.

he calculated that the total
radiation releases from the Fukushima plant are so high that they
amount to three INES 7 accidents!


By the end of May, many nuclear engineers were saying that
Fukushima had gone way beyond the scope of the Chernobyl accident
and called upon the IAEA to revamp its INES scale and create a new
level—Level 8—to categorise it!

Radiation from the Fukushima plant has spread to all across the globe.
Not only countries near Japan, like South Korea, the Philippines,
Vietnam, China and Russia, but also countries far away, across the
Pacific Ocean, from Canada to the USA and Mexico, and even
Switzerland, Iceland and France,

In the US, tests have detected elevated levels of radioactive iodine
and cesium in milk and vegetables produced in California; elevated
levels of radioactivity have been found in drinking water in numerous
municipalities from Los Angeles to Philadelphia; radiation has also
been detected in milk in Arizona, Arkansas, Hawaii, Vermont and
Washington.
Cesium-137 has been found in rainwater samples from
Boise, Idaho and Montpelier, Vermont.

Americium, which is more
toxic than plutonium, has been found in New England (a region in
the northeastern corner of America).

Probably the worst impact of the Fukushima accident on life on Planet
Earth is going to be its contamination of the oceans. Millions of litres
of highly radioactive water from the crippled Fukushima plant has
leaked or been deliberately released into the Pacific Ocean; scientists
have discovered that its radioactive impact far outstrips the Chernobyl
disaster.



The Fukushima accident is actually so huge that even the INES
scale does not capture its true magnitude—the accident is far bigger
than the worst accident imagined by the IAEA.

http://agriculturedefensecoalition.org/sites/default/files/file/nuclear_japan/114B_4_2011_Japan_Stricken_Fuel_Cooling_Pools_Danger_for_the_Long_Term_March_14_2011_NYTimes.pdf

concerns are growing that nearby pools holding spent fuel rods
could pose an even greater danger

Experts now fear that the pool containing those rods from the fourth reactor has run dry,
allowing the rods to overheat and catch fire. That could spread radioactive materials far and
wide in dangerous clouds

http://www-ncbi-nlm-nih-gov.proxy1.lib.umanitoba.ca/pmc/articles/PMC3103932/

Fukushima, Japan: An apocalypse in the making?

http://www.bmj.com.proxy1.lib.umanitoba.ca/content/342/bmj.d1845?ijkey=xsmHzm92sZxFQz2&keytype=ref

“Europe’s energy commissioner Guenther Oettinger said Tokyo had almost lost control of the situation at Fukushima. ‘There is talk of an apocalypse and I think the word is particularly well chosen,’ he told the European Parliament"

http://wearechangetoronto.org/2011/03/22/nuclear-apocalypse-in-japan-lifting-the-veil-of-nuclear-catastrophe-and-cover-up/

Nuclear Apocalypse in Japan Lifting the Veil of Nuclear Catastrophe


Humanity now faces a deadly serious challenge coming out of Japan — the epicenter of radiation. Intentional efforts to downplay or dismiss this catastrophe reveal the immaturity of western civilization and some of our most acute human pathologies, including our worship of technology and our psychopathology of denial.

four of six Fukushima nuclear reactor sites are irradiating the earth, that the fire is burning out of control at Reactor No. 4′s pool of spent nuclear fuel, that there are six spent fuel pools at risk all told, and that the sites are too hot to deal with. On March 16 Plumes of White Vapor began pouring from crippled Reactor No. 3 where the spent fuel pool may already be lost.

Reactors No. 4, 5, and 6 at Fukushima were shutdown when the earthquake struck. After the water drained and the spent fuel became exposed, the pool at reactor No. 4 caught fire, and continues to burn, as of Thursday March 17, releasing massive amounts of radiation into the environment

The Nuclear Information and Resource Service (NIRS) did the math: If Fukushima’s Reactor No. 4 operated for 35 years and produced 30 tons of irradiated fuel per year and each ton is equivalent to 24 times the amount of cesium-137 produced by the Hiroshima bomb, then each fuel pool could contain on the order of 24,000 times the amount of cesium-137 produced by the Hiroshima bomb, if all the produced irradiated fuel remains in the fuel pool.

One fact is certain: we are facing a massive and still unfolding nuclear disaster.



“Radiation levels are extremely high,” proclaims NRC chief Dr. Gregory B. Jaczko. The spent fuel pools are dry. Secondary containment at the reactor [No. 3] has been breached, but Tokyo is denying this.”

A few more sources:

http://rt.com/news/fukushima-fuel-cleanup-operation-522/

"The operation, to remove 400 tons of highly irradiated spent fuel beneath the plant’s damaged Reactor No. 4, could set off a catastrophe greater than any we have ever seen, independent experts warn."

"An uncontrolled leak of nuclear fuel could cause more radiation than the March 2011 disaster or the 1986 Chernobyl catastrophe, say consultants Mycle Schneider and Antony Froggatt. "Full release from the Unit-4 spent fuel pool, without any containment or control, could cause by far the most serious radiological disaster to date," the scientists say in their World Nuclear Industry Status Report 2013.  "

"Here’s what needs to be done: more than 1,300 used fuel rod assemblies, packing radiation 14,000 times the equivalent of the Hiroshima nuclear bomb,"

"It has to be done manually so there is a high risk that they will drop and break one of the fuel rods," he said. "

"This situation is not made easier by the fact that Japan is a seismically active island. Earthquakes keep striking at random, and even a small tremor could set in motion a catastrophic chain of events. "

http://www.globalresearch.ca/fukushima-uncontainable/5345754

"by far the worst environmental disaster in history. It’s multiples worse than Chernobyl. It’s an unprecedented catastrophe."

"“If present trends continue, the air we breathe, the food we eat, and the water we drink will soon be contaminated with enough radioactive pollutants to pose a potential health hazard far greater than any plague humanity has ever experienced.”

http://www.salon.com/2013/08/14/fukushima_cleanup_could_cause_biggest_disaster_to_date/

"Containing radiation equivalent to 14,000 times the amount released in the atomic bomb attack on Hiroshima 68 years ago, more than 1,300 used fuel rod assemblies packed tightly together need to be removed from a building that is vulnerable to collapse"

http://www.newsreview.com/chico/fukushimas-nightmare/content?oid=11013234

"could send those rods tumbling to the ground, where they would ignite in the open air. The consequences would make Chernobyl look like a tea party.

Fukushima is no longer just a Japanese problem. It’s a global disaster"


http://rt.com/op-edge/tepco-fukushima-sea-water-reactor-194/

"Fukushima is a nightmare disaster area, and no one has the slightest idea what to do. The game is to prevent the crippled nuclear plant from turning into an “open-air super reactor spectacular” which would result in a hazardous, melted catastrophe."

"What we have here in Fukushima is very deadly and certainly worse than Chernobyl "

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/07/25/fukushima-continues-to-spew-its-darkness/

"But there’s no doubt that a pool containing many tons of highly radioactive used fuel is suspended 100 feet in the air, with little left to support the structure. There’s a high likelihood the fuel rods could catch fire.

In such an event, the radioactive emissions could be catastrophic.  Intensely lethal emissions could spew for a very long time, eventually circling the globe many times, wrecking untold havoc"


http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9-192461-Nuclear-darkness

"Its most profound threat to the global ecology – a spent fuel fire – is still very much with us. "


http://enenews.com/reuters-corrosion-from-salt-has-weakened-fukushima-no-4-fuel-pool-concern-quake-to-topple-building-14000-hiroshima-bombs-worth-of-cesium-137-inside

"Corrosion is weakening Fukushima Unit No. 4 — Concern quake to ‘topple’ bulging structure — Holds 14,000 Hiroshima bombs worth of cesium-137"

Peace



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Re: Fukushima information: Sources only [Re: Moonshoe]
    #18723753 - 08/18/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Moonshoe said:
This has nothing to do with aliens, the new world order, or any other conspiratorial topic.




How can you be sure? I think 9 times out of 10 it is aliens :ancientaliens:


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Re: Fukushima information: Sources only [Re: Moonshoe]
    #18723860 - 08/18/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

ive read the same shit. that the organization responsible for cleanup of these sites have just completely fucked up, or didnt have the proper resources to even begin the project with any competency. As a result they have had to release tons of contaminated water (countless tons at this point) into the pacific, with untold environmental repercussions (because no one has done it at this level before).

pretty much the whole nuclear thing in Japan is nothing short of an utter catastrophe. they are still releasing highly contaminated water into the oceans, and will continue to for years, because that is the only option other than let that radiation run amok all over the island of japan.


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Re: Fukushima information: Sources only [Re: ManianFH]
    #18723963 - 08/18/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

mick said:
ive read the same shit. that the organization responsible for cleanup of these sites have just completely fucked up, or didnt have the proper resources to even begin the project with any competency. As a result they have had to release tons of contaminated water (countless tons at this point) into the pacific, with untold environmental repercussions (because no one has done it at this level before).

pretty much the whole nuclear thing in Japan is nothing short of an utter catastrophe. they are still releasing highly contaminated water into the oceans, and will continue to for years, because that is the only option other than let that radiation run amok all over the island of japan.




Another member posted an article saying that the current plan to contain the water that is leaking in to the ocean is to create a gigantic wall of ice. It was drawing a comparison to the huge wall of ice in the book and show "Game of Thrones" which holds back the white walkers. In this case it will be a giant wall of ice to hold back the flood of nuclear radiation.

I am curious about how they will keep the giant ice wall from melting.


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    #18723983 - 08/18/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

"Do not fear death... only the unlived life. You don't have to live forever; You just have to live." - Natalie Babbitt

"The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time." - Mark Twain

was gonna do a lot of quotes but got bored :lol:

You never know if you'll get to see tomorrow, so don't spend today worrying about how bad tomorrow could be


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    #18724186 - 08/18/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Absolutely. Live each day like it is your last, live for the moment, enjoy and savor every breathe you take and each beat of your heart!


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    #18725476 - 08/18/13 11:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

MisterSandman said:
Quote:

Moonshoe said:
This has nothing to do with aliens, the new world order, or any other conspiratorial topic.




How can you be sure? I think 9 times out of 10 it is aliens :ancientaliens:




Just for laughs I decided to follow up on this idea and there is actually a lot of speculation on the internet about a fukushima alien connection, ufos filmed over fukushima, etc.

I would post the links but then this really would get moved to the conspiracy forum. You almost tricked me into it :lol:

More academic university database sources:


Revealed: British government's plan to
play down Fukushima

http://www.agriculturedefensecoalition.org/sites/default/files/file/boron_81/81J_112_2011_British_Government_Plan_to_Play_Down_Fukushima_E_Mails_PR_Campaign_June_30_2011_Guardian.co.uk.pdf

"British government officials approached nuclear companies to draw up a co-ordinated
public relations strategy to play down the Fukushima nuclear accident just two days
after the earthquake and tsunami in
Japan and before the extent of the radiation leak
was known"

Deadly Silence on Fukushima

http://www.nogw.com/download3/%5E1_deadly_silence_futushima.pdf

" Russian nuclear
physicist  who is an expert on the kinds of gases being
released at Fukushima. Here is what he wrote:
About Japan: the problem is that the reactor uses "dirty" fuel. It is a combination of plutonium and uranium (MOX). I
suspect that the old fuel rods have bean spread out due to
the explosion and the surrounding area is contaminated with
plutonium which means you can never return to this place ag
ain. It is like a new Tchernobyl. Personally, I am not
surprised that the authority has
not informed people about this"

"We need to demonstrate and write to our representatives and demand that measuring be done around the world continuously.

Fukushima's nuclear disaster is still going on. People need accurate information to protect themselves. Here is how after Hiroshima and Nagasaki and Chernobyl doctors worked with those who had been contaminated to decontaminate them.

Macrobiotic Diet Prevents Radiation Sickness Among A-Bomb Survivors in Japan - In August, 1945, at the time of the atomic bombing of Japan, Tatsuichiro Akizuki, M.D., was director of the Department of Internal Medicine at St. Francis's Hospital in Nagasaki. Most patients in the hospital, located one mile from the center of the blast, survived the initial effects of the bomb, but soon after came down with symptoms of radiation sickness from the fallout that had been released. Dr. Akizuki fed his staff and patients a strict macrobiotic diet of brown rice, miso soup, wakame and other sea vegetables, Hokkaido pumpkin, and sea salt and prohibited the consumption of sugar and sweets. As a result, he saved everyone in his hospital, while many other survivors in the city perished from radiation sickness.

I gave the cooks and staff strict orders that they should make unpolished whole-grain rice balls, adding some salt to them, prepare strong miso soup for each meal, and never us eat sugar. When they didn't follow my orders, I scolded them without mercy, 'Never take sugar. Sugar will destroy your blood!'...
This dietary method made it possible for me to remain alive and go on working vigorously as a doctor. The radioactivity may not have been a fatal dose, but thanks to this method, Brother Iwanaga, Reverend Noguchi, Chief Nurse Miss Murai, other staff members and in-patients, as well as myself, all kept on living on the lethal ashes of the bombed ruins.

It was thanks to this food that all of us could work for people day after day, overcoming fatigue or symptoms of atomic disease and survive the disaster" free from severe symptoms of radioactivity.
People need answers, data and honest information to help them
deal with what is going on. Media blackouts, propaganda and
greedy self-interested industries, of any kind, who allow human beings' health to be affected, and deaths to occur, must be stopped now. That senior TEPCO man and the leading nuclear academic in Japan did not break down crying and resign their positions because all was well at Fukushima. Think about it world, and act now before it is too late"


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Re: Fukushima information: Sources only [Re: ManianFH]
    #18732391 - 08/20/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Helen Caldicott - The Truth About Fukushima



Helen Mary Caldicott (born 7 August 1938) is an Australian physician, author, and anti-nuclear advocate .


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