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100% colonized jars after shaking (are they suppose to look like this?)
    #18723585 - 08/18/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Virgin WBS along with virgin G2G.
3 strains -> 10 jars
Yeah, so I tried to use as little as possible with the pour method but yeah, think I did too much. Oh well.

This is what my jar that was looking 100% colonized after shaking and pouring looked like:

Totally doesn't look 100% colonized... is this normal? Should I start shaking all my 100% colonized jars to make them more white looking?

P.S. Good news! I just put two min mono tubs in fruiting the other day after seeing some pins 7 days later (crumbled BRF cakes -> coir/verm/gypsum but forgot the coir/verm top layer)





Edit: Also another thing, I'm using the "no hole monotub" tek because I can't seem to get condensation on the walls per Frank's properly dialed in monotub. I mean, I've had success with walls dry as heck but it is right next to a slightly opened window (for fresh air and sunlight). To increase humidity, I've tightly stuffed all my polyfill, even put breathable tape over my holes, etc. So I thought I could try out the no hole mono with success... yeah,as soon as I put it into fruiting, my walls dry up! The lid is seriously cracked like 1/4 an in.


EDIT2: My questions are:
1. Are my 100% colonized jars good to go (spawn -> bulk) Or should I shake them/ have them sit longer
2. How can I get condensation on the walls? I seem to only get it when the lid is completely closed.


Edited by Diamonds808 (08/18/13 04:28 PM)


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Re: 100% colonized jars after shaking (are they suppose to look like this?) [Re: Diamonds808]
    #18723803 - 08/18/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah that's what the jars look like after shaking them.


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Re: 100% colonized jars after shaking (are they suppose to look like this?) [Re: d9c6]
    #18724210 - 08/18/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks. Should I let them consolidate longer..???

What should I do about the lack of condensation?


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Re: 100% colonized jars after shaking (are they suppose to look like this?) [Re: Diamonds808]
    #18724288 - 08/18/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

No need to consolidate grains. That is what they look like after shaking. Do you live in an extremely dry climate?

Also good thing you forgot the top coir verm layer. It is not needed


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Re: 100% colonized jars after shaking (are they suppose to look like this?) [Re: Stromrider]
    #18724310 - 08/18/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hm, I always thought they looked more white in the teks. Temp (inside the house) are around 75-80F. Current (outside) humidity is 47%.


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Re: 100% colonized jars after shaking (are they suppose to look like this?) [Re: Diamonds808]
    #18724343 - 08/18/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Well them I am not sure. My humidity where my tubs are is always around 50 percent. I do my tubs like frank and my walls are always covered. I never mist until after the first flush. Wish I could help you. Maybe pm frank and pick his brain. He is really smart with this stuff and always helpful. :goodluck:


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Re: 100% colonized jars after shaking (are they suppose to look like this?) [Re: Stromrider]
    #18724366 - 08/18/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Totally doesn't look 100% colonized




Trips you out the first time doesn't it? :what:


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Re: 100% colonized jars after shaking (are they suppose to look like this?) [Re: freebananas]
    #18724419 - 08/18/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If your not getting condensation on your tub walls it is likely only due to one of 4 reasons IMO...

1.  Your poly is not stuffed tight enough.  (Just keep folding/rolling it for the bottom holes until you can barely stuff it in.)

2. Your holes are too big.  (This is likely in conjuction with how tightly your top/bottom holes are stuffed, but can definitely play a big role)

3. Your substrate is wayyyyy to dry.  (I wouldn't really think this would be the case, but I suppose if your mix was too dry it wouldn't allow as high of a rate of evap)

4. Outside influences...  (too much air blowing directly on the tub or to much of a temperature change near the time you check your tubs could leave the walls dry)


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Re: 100% colonized jars after shaking (are they suppose to look like this?) [Re: BloodKil]
    #18724444 - 08/18/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

^ I don't have any holes and my lid is only cracked 1/4in.


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Re: 100% colonized jars after shaking (are they suppose to look like this?) [Re: Diamonds808]
    #18724452 - 08/18/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Well that session to be a pretty good reason for why you have dry walls in itself... :crazy2:

Either way I was responding to the fact above where you said that you cannot seem to get condensation on the walls using franks tek.


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Re: 100% colonized jars after shaking (are they suppose to look like this?) [Re: BloodKil]
    #18724456 - 08/18/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Wouldn't that RAISE condensation? I mean, when the lid is on, there is condensation. I saw the pins, cracked the lid 1/4in and soon after my walls completely dried up. I did the holes, polyfill before and although had success (there was no condensation) so I'm trying something new.


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Re: 100% colonized jars after shaking (are they suppose to look like this?) [Re: Diamonds808]
    #18724716 - 08/18/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Why would having a open lid raise humidity and allow for condensation?

Good luck with it either way, but if/when you move back to using a monotub with holes...

Use a smaller hole size
Make sure you properly pack that polyfil in

Those two steps will help immensely in raising the internal humidity, which in turn will help cause condensation...  Condensation is of course not what we are going for at all, just a side effect from humidity and temperature differential.


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Re: 100% colonized jars after shaking (are they suppose to look like this?) [Re: BloodKil]
    #18724750 - 08/18/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Well, considering that the monotub has NO holes and the lid is only cracked 1/4in (IF that). I had mono tubs with super small holes that were all SUPER tightly stuffed with polyfill (even starting covering half with medical tape)... didn't get condensation on any of the walls. With no condensation on the walls, my 30QT produced about 3ozs of dried mushrooms..

Upon further review of the no-hole monotub, OP said that he closes it up at night! A... ha!! This might solve my problem. Unfortunately, I have it all taped up cuz my stupid cat keeps jumping on it!!!!


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