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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18723211 - 08/18/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm pretty sure opiate w/d's are much worse, but I'm really talking out of my ass when it comes to anything I say about opiates. I stay the fuck away from them.




Mmm no alcohol  (delirium tremens.. look it up) and benzo withdrawals are worse, and can be fatal (Really withdrawals of most things that act on that GABA receptors are dangerous because GABA is a calming neurotransmitter). Opiate withdrawals, while really shitty, are not fatal.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #18723216 - 08/18/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I agree with that 100% but opiates are far more addictive than alcohol


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btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
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I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: fee]
    #18723226 - 08/18/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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fee said:
I agree with that 100% but opiates are far more addictive than alcohol



Wrong. Opiates are good. Opiates are better than alcohol. They make me :feelsgoodman: and :feelsdopeman: but then I have to watch out for narcs cause I am  :feelsparanoidman: and I don't want to be :feelslockedman: in jail because withdrawal makes me feel  :feelssadman: and :feelsweirdman:. Then I start to chase the dragon to  :feelsjohngoodman:. After years of drug abuse, I :badmanthisfeels: and :feelsoldman: and eventually  :suicide:


Edited by 245willow19 (08/18/13 03:09 PM)


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: fee]
    #18723231 - 08/18/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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BlindSophist said:
I'm pretty sure opiate w/d's are much worse, but I'm really talking out of my ass when it comes to anything I say about opiates. I stay the fuck away from them.



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fee said:
I agree with that 100% but opiates are far more addictive than alcohol




Definitely correct. I know PLENTY of people who can use alcohol responsibly.
I know hardly anybody who uses opioids responsibly.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: fee]
    #18723235 - 08/18/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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fee said:
he stop for a few months (mostly due to jail)...

Opiates being legal would not circumvent this from happening.




:lolwut:


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18723246 - 08/18/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

What do you not understand?

Junkies go to jail usually trying to get their fix not because of heroin itself.


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blankk said to fee:
btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
Turtletotem said:
I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: fee]
    #18723253 - 08/18/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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fee said:
What do you not understand?

Junkies go to jail usually trying to get their fix not because of heroin itself.




You mean like stealing car radios and stuff?


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18723259 - 08/18/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

like trying to rob banks.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18723261 - 08/18/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

fee said:
What do you not understand?

Junkies go to jail usually trying to get their fix not because of heroin itself.




You mean like stealing car radios and stuff?




Car radios ain't worth shit. Junkies steal credit cards, cash, gold, electronics etc.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18723268 - 08/18/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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You mean like stealing car radios and stuff?



Not all junkies are scum, only the majority :lol:


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: fee]
    #18723271 - 08/18/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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fee said:
What do you not understand?

Junkies go to jail usually trying to get their fix not because of heroin itself.





yup


it's not the heroin, it's what people do to keep it flowing and keep from wd's



and people are willing to do ANYTHING


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: Salomon]
    #18723279 - 08/18/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

If junk were legal, it would probably be more affordable... just saying.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: Salomon]
    #18723283 - 08/18/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

So pure heroin should just be provided free of charge by the state to anyone who wants it to prevent crime. :evil:


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18723288 - 08/18/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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BlindSophist said:
If junk were legal, it would probably be more affordable... just saying.



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So pure heroin should just be provided free of charge by the state to anyone who wants it to prevent crime. :evil:




They already do that in some European countries.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: LoveYourLife]
    #18723292 - 08/18/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

And it works really well AFAIK.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18723293 - 08/18/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Do you mean methadone clinics?


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blankk said to fee:
btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
Turtletotem said:
I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: muistrue]
    #18723297 - 08/18/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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No I don't judge people because of what kind of drugs they use. That whole my drug is better than your drug attitude sucks. I have had two friends die because of heroin though and that was really hard to deal with.





it's not the 'my drug is better than yours' argument, it's the I dont need a
junkie on my doorstep every morning asking for cash or waiting for me to
leave so he can rob my house to get his fix, I dont need to attend another
funeral over a senseless death because some fuckhead decided smack was a
better alternative to living


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: fee]
    #18723300 - 08/18/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Do you mean methadone clinics?




Methadone is way fucking worse than Heroin man.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: fee]
    #18723302 - 08/18/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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fee said:
Do you mean methadone clinics?





In a lot of European countries they use Subutex rather than suboxone. Subutex is used here in the US, but very rarely. The only difference is, Subutex doesn't have the Nalaxone.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: fee]
    #18723304 - 08/18/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

BlindSophist said:
If junk were legal, it would probably be more affordable... just saying.



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Gilgamesh18 said:
So pure heroin should just be provided free of charge by the state to anyone who wants it to prevent crime. :evil:




They already do that in some European countries.




Yup they do, and guess what - their rate of opiate addiction is way less.
Who would have though that :cookiemonster:

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I agree with that 100% but opiates are far more addictive than alcohol




Really? Any proof for that? Because all peer-reviewed studies that have not been retracted have not shown that. Obviously addictiveness is hard to quantify - and hence why Prof. Nutt used three criteria to access harm - addictiveness, harm to society, and harm to the users.


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