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Juiceh
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Re: Trying to create a list of common things around the house that can be saved and added to mush subs [Re: krypto2000]
#18722522 - 08/18/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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krypto2000 said: For the former I guess it depends what you drop on your floor, but typically mine consists of dirt, bunny poop, and dehydrated food/crumbs
Rabbit shit in your floor sweepings? Do you let bunny rabbits run around the house and shit everywhere? LoL! Were you on the show "Hoarders" by any chance? There was an episode where some dude had tons of rabbits loose in his rented home... They absolutely destroyed that home.
*edit* On a serious note, I have read on here about people adding lawn clippings and fallen leaves to their substrate.
Edited by Juiceh (08/18/13 11:45 AM)
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Kjetterfaen
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Re: Trying to create a list of common things around the house that can be saved and added to mush subs [Re: Juiceh]
#18722536 - 08/18/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Juiceh said: Rabbit shit in your floor sweepings? Do you let bunny rabbits run around the house and shit everywhere? LoL! Were you on the show "Hoarders" by any chance? There was an episode where some dude had tons of rabbits loose in his rented home... They absolutely destroyed that home.
Not to derail this, but I once gave a single hamster free access to a hard to reach, isolated wooden closet for three months. It pissed, shat and gnawed the lower levels to oblivion.
That being said; OP has bunny poop in his floor sweepings, and shit and straw tends to get on the floor in the area around cages, so I assume he keeps clean house
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tbagtag
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Re: Trying to create a list of common things around the house that can be saved and added to mush subs [Re: Juiceh]
#18722546 - 08/18/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Besides, if you're talking about cubensis they are decomposers. So the matter does have to be biodegradable. I'm not sure if what everything people would find in their home on the floor or in the trash would meet these requirements hence the
I think if this is something you really want to do go for it, but you should be more scientific than "i swept some stuff up". Because what if you find something beneficial. Who knows maybe cubes love hot sauce right?
I have often thought of making a sub out of Mcdonalds buns since they dont grow mold.
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Kjetterfaen
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Re: Trying to create a list of common things around the house that can be saved and added to mush subs [Re: tbagtag]
#18722568 - 08/18/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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tbagtag said: I have often thought of making a sub out of Mcdonalds buns since they dont grow mold.
They also contain no nourishment on account of being mostly air and styrofoam.
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coffeehead
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Re: Trying to create a list of common things around the house that can be saved and added to mush subs [Re: Nakor420]
#18722573 - 08/18/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nakor420 said: Yes, because you will achieve the same results by following the tek's to the letter.
LOL! What COMPLETE Bullshit!!!
At least 90% of what I've read here and faithfully replicated has failed miserably.
Lots of stuff is outdated or stuff people pulled out of their asses and never tried themselves.
And there's no such thing as settled science or TEKs - there's always MORE to learn. When I started there was only one "TEK" - you grew your mycelium on brown rice in qt. jars and then cased the jars to induce fruiting. That "TEK" also called for covering the outside of the jars with foil to keep light from reaching the mycelium!
Where the fuck would we be now if some people didn't think outside the box? We'd still be growing everything in quart jars.
I've got a beautiful outdoor bed right now started from jars that a long time poster told me to throw out. I'm damned glad I didn't follow THAT advice.
Just look at all of the revisions RR has made on his 50/50 TEK. There's always room for new ideas.
My suggestion to krypto2000 is to save his corn husks - according to what I've read here they make a great addition to your bulk substrate. Same thing with corn cobs.
So there is stuff most people toss that can be used to grow mushrooms.
Instead of mocking posters, members should at least try to show them where they're wrong. For instance, saving cardboard is a great idea, but only if you're growing wood lovers.
Dryer lint? Is it mainly synthetic fibers or cotton? If it's cotton it's cellulose, which mycelium readily digests. Otherwise, toss it.
And as for garden stuff - my azurescens love my compost made from hardwood leaves.
Too many negative fucking vibes here, man. If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.
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Stromrider
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Re: Trying to create a list of common things around the house that can be saved and added to mush subs [Re: krypto2000]
#18722713 - 08/18/13 12:37 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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krypto2000 said: Why would you not condone experimenting? If no one experimented then we wouldn't even have any teks to follow, we wouldn't be growing mushrooms at all or even eating them ffs. What's wrong with floor sweepings? Anything that can be composted can be used as a growth medium. Not that it should mind you, some things need to be broken down further before they're suitable for mushrooms, but mushrooms will eat just about anything. I fed it a still living corn husk out of curiosity earlier and it's even starting to eat that. I would not recommend feeding it most things that are green, I just had some extra myc left over in a myco bag and tossed it in there to see what would happen.
I worded my post wrong. It has been edited
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Nakor420
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Re: Trying to create a list of common things around the house that can be saved and added to mush subs [Re: Stromrider]
#18722766 - 08/18/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, that's true, experimentation and verification has brought us to this point, it's indispensable, but to use something because it can be composted, WITHOUT actually composting it first sounds like a mistake to me. Dried food crumbs?
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krypto2000
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Re: Trying to create a list of common things around the house that can be saved and added to mush subs [Re: coffeehead]
#18722773 - 08/18/13 12:54 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks man, my thoughts exactly, there's always room for improvement in everything in life from growing mushies to.. well.. sweeping the floor. If there weren't why are we still here? We might as well throw in the towel right now and start working on our coffins.
I do pick out obvious things like pieces of plastic from the sweepings, but since I tend to pick up any plastics that fall on the ground anyway, or anything else of size, they're not often in there.
My bunny just roams the house like a cat, he pees in his litter box, but he hasn't gotten the pooping down and I haven't particularly minded it, they're just little hard pebbles, no smell, and no moisture, basically balls of nutritious fiber. That's why I sweep all the time though is to mostly pick them up, but I also track in lots of stuff because I'm digging in the yard a lot. I used to save the poop from his litter box, but I figured why not just save all the floor sweepings too, if the mushies can't eat it they'll just work around it anyway, it's not going to harm anything. If some synthetic fibers or plastics get in there at worst it'd take up needless space and at best it'd contribute to a fluffier substrate. I didn't actually think about the drier lint consisting of synthetic fibers as someone mentioned, but I do believe it's most likely cotton that you'll find in your drier, mine in particular feels really soft and cotton linens tend to unravel quicker than synthetics too.
I'm the kind of person that likes to utilize everything at hand, I hardly have any trash, maybe 1 bag a week among me and my roommates, I rarely if ever throw out a meal regardless how burnt it might be, I'll just reconstitute it and turn it into a soup or something, etc. Just thought I'd share some ideas I had for substrate additives, I figured there'd be more people willing to offer positive contributions. We know the kind of things mushrooms like to eat so it doesn't seem particularly unreasonable, a lot of you act like manure/coir is some magical thing that is somehow separate from everything else and created in a bubble with the sole intention of growing mushrooms in.
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Nakor420
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Re: Trying to create a list of common things around the house that can be saved and added to mush subs [Re: krypto2000]
#18722787 - 08/18/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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To each his own. I don't mind the rabbit poo personally, I'd try it if I had it. I would try to dust it off and maybe even rinse it some how though...all that other stuff sound like a waist of time to me. unless you are doing a wood lover and you have saw dust on the floor.
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Kizzle
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Re: Trying to create a list of common things around the house that can be saved and added to mush subs [Re: Stromrider]
#18722804 - 08/18/13 01:06 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's not a bad idea. In fact people experiment all the time with odd substrates just for fun if no other reason. But you'd want to use something pure. By that I mean you'd wabt to know for sure what's in it. The composition of floor sweeping or drier link is really not consistent enough to be used for a meaningful experiment.
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