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OfflinePatlal
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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: fee] * 1
    #18722771 - 08/18/13 12:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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fee said:
So I have recently lost a good friend due to heroin and have lost many more in Tue past.
Due to this I have vowed to disassociate myself with anyone that uses that god awful drug.
Well I asked my ex if she is still using and she tells me that she is fine and isn't going to turn out like my friend.

So I refuse to talk to her.

I'm done with heroin users.

How about yourself?




Well I guess everybody learns things at their own speed...

I didn't have to make the choice to not hang out with heroin addicts, it was just common sense to me. I'll never hang out with anyone who is a junkie, meth head, crack head or any other super addictive drugs. There is absolutely nothing good that can come out of it. I'll chat with you guys here, but IRL, I'm not hanging out with those I mentioned, ever...


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: fee]
    #18722847 - 08/18/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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fee said:
I'm done with heroin users.

How about yourself?




I think it's a great substance, especially for people who have past trauma.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: s240779]
    #18722864 - 08/18/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Da2ra said:
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fee said:
I'm done with heroin users.

How about yourself?




I think it's a great substance, especially for people who have past trauma.




MDMA is good for people who have traumatic experiences, not fucking Heroin.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: LoveYourLife]
    #18722899 - 08/18/13 01:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Psychedelic drugs and MDMA can be used to come to realizations and shit, but not for a completely artificial numbing out via daily use.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: lessismore]
    #18722916 - 08/18/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

More than 20 of my friends have died directly or indirectly from heroin use.

I dont get close to anyone anymore if I know they use it.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: s240779]
    #18722953 - 08/18/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

the only disgusting things about heroin are:

A that most "heroin" is cut to ribbons with other chemicals and general bullshit, being little of actual diacetylmorphine. so the people who use heroin are using some dirty shit, and most don't know/ dont care.


and

B people  abuse the fuck out of it until they develop both a psychological and physical dependance to said bullshit, then become the ultimate sketchballvibekillerdelux.



i know people who do heroin.


i'm still friends with them.


but my level of trust goes instantly down when i've found out you're shooting needles of filth into your self.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #18722963 - 08/18/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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MisterMuscaria said:
More than 20 of my friends have died directly or indirectly from heroin use.

I dont get close to anyone anymore if I know they use it.




You used to live in a very toxic environment. I'm glad you decided to get out of it.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: Patlal]
    #18723005 - 08/18/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

My brother was a big user.  It took over his life and he was in and out of prison all the time.  Like me, he would get the headaches.  They got so bad for him they looked at his head with an x-ray and found tumor the size of a golf ball in his skull.  They did the surgery and it worked out okay, but he was all downhill from there.  He decided to take an afternoon nap one day on the couch in his living room and never woke up.

Really sad.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: fee]
    #18723016 - 08/18/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

No I don't judge people because of what kind of drugs they use. That whole my drug is better than your drug attitude sucks. I have had two friends die because of heroin though and that was really hard to deal with.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: mpd] * 1
    #18723023 - 08/18/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Not a bad policy OP, I'm an ex-junkie, been clean three and a half years now. I refuse to associate with anyone who does heroin. I never wanted to do it again after I quit, and thought I could still hang out with people I used to. Not a chance, they may not be bad people in their hearts (alot of time they are though) but they can't see past the junk. It narrows the mind the way psychedelics expand it. You end up self absorbed with no perspective on anything. A junkie can't help but lie, it's just what they do. Alot of the time they believe their own lies.

Anyone trying to actually live their life just doesn't have time and patience for that shit.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: fee]
    #18723034 - 08/18/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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fee said:
So I have recently lost a good friend due to heroin and have lost many more in Tue past.
Due to this I have vowed to disassociate myself with anyone that uses that god awful drug.
Well I asked my ex if she is still using and she tells me that she is fine and isn't going to turn out like my friend.

So I refuse to talk to her.

I'm done with heroin users.

How about yourself?




That's stupid, fee - no offence.

People can use heroin safely - it really depends on the individual. Some people cannot control their usage, others can. You don't really hear about those who use heroin and other opiates responsibly because they do not make the news, and are not on the street corner homeless. :shrug:

Remember - none of that 'my drug is better than your drug' b.s. It all comes down to the user using it. Let's be rational here and use our heads - not let emotions guide your actions.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #18723048 - 08/18/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Some people think they can control their usage. I don't think anyone actually can though. The fantasy that you are in control still is part of the disease.

That being said, if you can get a steady supply and still have money, you can fuction for the most part. If you call being a junkie functioning.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #18723051 - 08/18/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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fee said:
So I have recently lost a good friend due to heroin and have lost many more in Tue past.
Due to this I have vowed to disassociate myself with anyone that uses that god awful drug.
Well I asked my ex if she is still using and she tells me that she is fine and isn't going to turn out like my friend.

So I refuse to talk to her.

I'm done with heroin users.

How about yourself?




That's stupid, fee - no offence.

People can use heroin safely - it really depends on the individual. Some people cannot control their usage, others can. You don't really hear about those who use heroin and other opiates responsibly because they do not make the news, and are not on the street corner homeless. :shrug:

Remember - none of that 'my drug is better than your drug' b.s. It all comes down to the user using it. Let's be rational here and use our heads - not let emotions guide your actions.




I used Heroin responsibly for like two years before I got addicted. And I know a bunch of my other friends used it for a long time too before it got them. But it will get anybody eventually if they use it enough times.
I guess there are a FEW people who can do it in moderation but I'd have to say that is a very small percentage.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: muistrue]
    #18723053 - 08/18/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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No I don't judge people because of what kind of drugs they use. That whole my drug is better than your drug attitude sucks.



Exactly my thoughts. I had a long conversation about this with one girl who is a huge amph-head, she just kept badmouthing me for using GHB/GBL, refusing to see anything bad in her habit :whatever:

Drugs are drugs period.

Besides, it should be actions, rather than  use of any substance, from which you decide whether or not to be friends with someone :shrug:


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: rulesq]
    #18723063 - 08/18/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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rulesq said:

Drugs are drugs period.





So someone who occasionally uses acid can be compared to a methhead or a junkie?

I don't think so. You need to check out a drug rehab some time and ask how many people ruined their lives with psychedelics.

Not saying psychedelics are "the answer" or that they are flawless, they are not, there are side effects. But they help alot of people, and are not addictive.

How is that not better/safer?


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: rulesq] * 1
    #18723074 - 08/18/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

To bad my drug doesn't have nearly the death rate that heroin does.

Hey if it didn't kill the way it does I might not hate it so much.


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I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: fee]
    #18723091 - 08/18/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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fee said:
To bad my drug doesn't have nearly the death rate that heroin does.

Hey if it didn't kill the way it does I might not hate it so much.




The drug laws are the cause of that. It wouldn't be that way if it were legal.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: muistrue]
    #18723098 - 08/18/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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muistrue said:
Quote:

fee said:
To bad my drug doesn't have nearly the death rate that heroin does.

Hey if it didn't kill the way it does I might not hate it so much.




The drug laws are the cause of that. It wouldn't be that way if it were legal.





I call bullshit


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blankk said to fee:
btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
Turtletotem said:
I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: fee]
    #18723109 - 08/18/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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fee said:
Quote:

muistrue said:
Quote:

fee said:
To bad my drug doesn't have nearly the death rate that heroin does.

Hey if it didn't kill the way it does I might not hate it so much.




The drug laws are the cause of that. It wouldn't be that way if it were legal.





I call bullshit



I second this motion.

People don't die of alcohol poisoning?


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Re: I refuse to be friends with anyone that uses heroin [Re: Toe_Jam]
    #18723113 - 08/18/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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muistrue said:
Quote:

fee said:
To bad my drug doesn't have nearly the death rate that heroin does.

Hey if it didn't kill the way it does I might not hate it so much.




The drug laws are the cause of that. It wouldn't be that way if it were legal.




Exactly. Alcohol is much more addictive than opiates. But it's legality and acceptance means someone can be an alcoholic and still have a job. But not so with heroin and other opiates..

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LoveYourLife said:

I used Heroin responsibly for like two years before I got addicted. And I know a bunch of my other friends used it for a long time too before it got them. But it will get anybody eventually if they use it enough times.
I guess there are a FEW people who can do it in moderation but I'd have to say that is a very small percentage.




That's unfortunate you got addicted :shrug: But making a statement that "everyone will get addicted" is stupid and naive.


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Toe_Jam said:
Some people think they can control their usage. I don't think anyone actually can though. The fantasy that you are in control still is part of the disease.

That being said, if you can get a steady supply and still have money, you can fuction for the most part. If you call being a junkie functioning.




I would call someone who uses opiates every day a junkie. I wouldn't call someone who uses opiates every month or so a junkie. One is addicted, the other is not. You can be a functioning junkie, but use of opiates does not automatically make someone a "junkie".


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