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Entheogenic Tobacco: How to use tobacco to answer questions and find insight
    #18722471 - 08/18/13 11:22 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Tobacco is a powerful ally! And your worst enemy.
If you want to get the most out of tobacco, do this:


1.) Still the mind completely. To the point your reality is now frame by frame - it's the holidays, just woke up, completely free and deciding what shall I do on this bright and beautiful day? - that mode.

There is a certain kind of frantic energy that might tell you to hurry up. Peer into the nature of this energy. The ceremonial use must be in total patience and stillness. Frame by frame. The frame by frame nature, this action then that action with full control and action, without frenzy, this itself is the entheogenic use of tobacco. The smoking is merely to make this frame-by-frame observation explode with power into clarity and sight - like doing slow form Tai Chi to deliver a one-inch punch that knocks down a building.

Now we have a still mind, we may begin the communion.


2.) Form a pure intention. Maintain stillness, it is of the utmost essence. Still, gentle, calm, composed, tranquil. Tobacco is a power-amplifier, whatever you think/feel is magnified 1000x during the rush. Which is great for finding the needle in the haystack, horrible if your house is made of hay.

So, form a pure intention, a good intention with all due hope. Hold this intention in your mind. It can also be a question.

3.) Light it in solemn reverent silence. Body and mind stillness is of the utmost importance. Take a drag and quench the thirst.

4.) The rush will hit you and your answer will be delivered instantly. Listen for it, tobacco WILL speak. Listen for it. Smoke, but listen, do not talk.

5.) It will tell you to stop smoking any further. Stop. You will find that your craving has been satisfied! You will desire no more.


Through this methodology the doorway to shamanic/entheogenic use of tobacco is opened. This is a tremendously large realm to explore and far removed from the drudgeries of daily mindless chain smoking.


So here is the problem with tobacco addiction: We smoke it mindlessly. Tobacco when smoked, amplifies the intention behind the smoker, it will turn the power level up to 11. When you have 10 different intentions competing for survival, this results in tremendous mental noise! And then the craving is not satiated because you never listened to its voice and thus does tobacco addiction take hold! And I get the impression, the way in is the way out.



I hope through this information someone can get something amazing out of this. There is untold power in the tobacco plant, power which we pass over, some pass over 20 times a day.


Of course a huge part of tobacco is the intention of the cultivator/supplier/source. This methodology will not work very well with cigarettes due to the filter. Ideally use a roach. Free air flow is of the essence, you need to get hit with a solid dose which the filters of cigarettes simply cannot deliver. The head-rush state is also the tobacco trip.


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"Everything there is, and all that there is, is a Pattern of unspeakable proportion. The Pattern contains everything that is, completely fixed in succession, all the minimal particles interconnected in every way that is. Every way that is is not every conceivable way, because not everything that can be conceived is manifest in the pattern."

"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

"If boring drudgery was the way of the universe, everything would have killed itself long ago." - Spacerific


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Re: Entheogenic Tobacco: How to use tobacco to answer questions and find insight [Re: crkhd]
    #18722918 - 08/18/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Hobowaken or Mapacho used to be the most popular entheogen on both continents. I found this article a while ago on deoxy, you should give it a read.

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From Entheology: Nicotiana Rustica: Mapucho

Tobacco is one of the most important plants in the lives of all tribes of the northwest Amazon.

Mapacho is considered very sacred by Amazonian shamans and is employed alone (by tabaqueros) or in combination with other plants in shamanic practices. Some shamans drink the juice of tobacco leaves alone as a source of visions. Mapacho is used extensively in healing practices and is considered a medicine, not a health hazard, when used properly.

The mestizo ayahuasqueros of Perú mix tobacco juice with Ayahuasca, crushing the leaves and softening them with saliva, leaving the juice overnight in a hole cut into the trunk of the lupuna tree (Trichilia tocachcana), the presumably toxic sap of which drips into the tobacco juice. Amongst the western Tukanos of Colombia and Brazil, master medicine men make their students drink a gourdful of the juice to cause vomiting and eventual narcosis. The Jivaros of Ecuador drink the juice in initiations, visionary quests, war preparations, victory feasts and witchcraft; even women partake of the juice in wedding feasts and initiations

From Tobacco: A Cultural History of How an Exotic Plant Seduced Civilization by Iain Gately

Tobacco played a central role in the spiritual training of shamans. In the right doses, tobacco is a dangerously powerful drug and a fatal poison. Shamans used tobacco, often in conjunction with other narcotics, to achieve a state of near death, in the belief that "he who overcomes death by healing himself is capable of curing and revitalizing others". Shamans undergoing initiation training were required to take enough tobacco to bring them to the edge of the grave.

The spiritual journeys undertaken by initiate shamans were perceived as real quests, during the course of which the neophyte would encounter terrible hazards. The priest shaman of the Warao, for example, endured a series of perils similar to those set out in computer games. After clearing an abyss "filled with hungry jaguars, snapping alligators, and frenzied sharks, all eager to devour him" the tobacco intoxicated neophyte had to pass places where demons armed with spears are waiting to kill him, where slippery spots threaten to unbalance, and where giant raptors claw him. Finally, he must pass through a hole in an enormous tree with rapidly opening and closing doors. These symplegades are the actual threshold between life and death. Jumping through the clashing doors, he beholds the bones of those who went before him but failed to clear the gateway. Not finding his own bones among them he returns from the other-world restored to new life.

A tobacco shaman used the weed in almost every aspect of his art. Tobacco smoke was employed as a diagnostic tool to examine sick patients, and formed a part of many ceremonies over which these doctor-priests officiated. Ritual smoke blowing, by which a shaman might bestow a blessing or protection against enemies both real and invisible, was intended to symbolize a transformation, in which the tobacco smoke represented a guiding spirit, and thus is reminiscent of Christian ritual, whereby wine and bread are transubstantiated by a priest into the body and blood of Christ himself. Shamans therefore were early proponents of passive smoking, which they believed to be a force for good for non-smokers...

Tobacco was drunk in sufficient quantities at shamanic initiation ceremonies to induce vomiting, paralysis and, occasionally, death. Even everyday tobacco drinkers attributed mystic powers to their brew. Hunters of the Mashco tribe drank to communicate with the game animals that they wished to kill. Hunters in some tribes would apply tobacco juice as eye drops in order to help them see in the dark. In several cases this privilege was extended to their hunting dogs...

Shamans used tobacco smoke for healing and blessing, and also as a form of food to nourish their guiding spirits. Shamans believed that they entered into a contract with the spirit world upon initiation, whereby they undertook to provide sustenance to the spirits in the form of tobacco, in return for receiving healing and other powers. Spirits that had taken up residence within the shaman's body were nourished by the tobacco he himself used, whereas those living in crystals or other sacred objects had smoke blown over them. For example, the shaman of the Campa tribe owned a sacred rock which he would smoke over and "feed" daily with tobacco juice.

The preferred implement for smoking tobacco was the cigar, which could be of prodigious size, especially those prepared by shamans, where examples of a metre or more in length are not uncommon. These were made from rolls of cured tobacco, often wrapped around a stick or the rib of a banana leaf. Some tribes developed special cigar supports, resembling giant tuning forks, which could be held in the hand, or whose sharp end could be stuck in the ground to support these monsters. Shamans’ cigars occasionally were sprinkled with carana granules which affected the vocal cords and masked the voice of the smoker, giving it a harsh, deep inflection which was considered appropriate for ritual discourse between mankind and the spiritual powers.

Uncured tobacco is very potent—the Indians who used it would often pass out after as little as one cigarette, and "communicate with the gods." This type of tobacco should be smoked with caution. The danger here is death from overdose rather than addiction. When used as a ritual narcotic it is not smoked often enough to result in addiction.—Growing the Hallucinogens







My buddy gives me native smokes every now and then and I break it them up and keep the tobacco. I buy the small Pall Mall cigarettes because the filters are narrow and 20 cigarettes is more than I will ever use. I usually use zig zags because they are cheap. I'm completely serious. I only use them to pray and commune with nature, so to speak and I don't usually use tobacco in the ritual. If I do I most often just throw one of the cigs in the fire or release the raw tobacco in a strong wind and watch it blow away as an offering to The Great Spirit.

I only smoke as a kind of meditation before I start talking to clear my head. I was actually going to do the whole ritual tonight because I was having some strange perceptual abnormalities that I haven't figured out how to deal with. I easily haven't smoked in four maybe five months

I follow your methodology as far as 5). I don't sate any craving because I have never been addicted to it. So I keep smoking until the cig is done. Might as well have a 60 second head rush instead of a 5 second one, right?

The head rush is cool, feels like your soul moving around in your body.

I have never had an addictive personality so it isn't hard to only use it for entheogenic purposes.

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Of course a huge part of tobacco is the intention of the cultivator/supplier/source. This methodology will not work very well with cigarettes due to the filter. Ideally use a roach. Free air flow is of the essence, you need to get hit with a solid dose which the filters of cigarettes simply cannot deliver. The head-rush state is also the tobacco trip.




Thats disgusting(IMO) dude.

Cool post though +5


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Re: Entheogenic Tobacco: How to use tobacco to answer questions and find insight [Re: Psilopsychosis]
    #18722964 - 08/18/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

"The head rush is cool, feels like your soul moving around in your body."


What if I told you that ibogaine = tobacco headrush for 72 hours?


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"Everything there is, and all that there is, is a Pattern of unspeakable proportion. The Pattern contains everything that is, completely fixed in succession, all the minimal particles interconnected in every way that is. Every way that is is not every conceivable way, because not everything that can be conceived is manifest in the pattern."

"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

"If boring drudgery was the way of the universe, everything would have killed itself long ago." - Spacerific


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Re: Entheogenic Tobacco: How to use tobacco to answer questions and find insight [Re: crkhd]
    #18724109 - 08/18/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know what I would do with such information...
I don't have connections like that. :lol:
First thing I would do would be look more into how the traditional culture uses the entheogen.

I read this recently.
Near the end of the trip the guy looks into a mirror and sees an African guy, presumably on ibogaine, looking back at him.

How does the drug work on the brain? Is it a tryptamine?
Can you tell me more about your experience on it? How big of a dose did you take to trip for three days?


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