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I can't get no...
    #18717190 - 08/17/13 12:15 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

satisfaction.  Apparently the chanties and lobsters are out there, but I'm finding none.  Everywhere I go it seems way too dry.  Southern Oregon coast.  Gar.  I'm not finding any fungus anywhere, with these pathetic exceptions which I may as well id:

#1 *edit: Byrain sez Psathyrella, possibly candolleana.*  LBM in my weed lawn.  I believe these are saprophytic on old holly root, looks to me like the same shroom that originally started fruiting on the stump years back, they seem to be spreading out from the original fruiting.  Lousy pics, before I got a better cam.  Maybe some brown on the print, but it didn't drop much.  Fairly fragile and degraded quickly.  No bruising, no scent.






#2  LBM in alder forest bordering freshwater marsh






#3  Some crut on alder, same location as above





#4  Lichen on ??? tree, same location



#5  Can anyone id this tree, same location?  I don't even know where to start.



#6 In a vacant lot of a house that burned years ago.  I've searched on everything I can think of, and can't find anything that looks remotely like this.  There was an opposite fruiting branch to the other one - I plucked that and brought it home, went back and photographed it later.  It was the only plant of its' type there.




Thanx!


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Re: I can't get no... [Re: fry day]
    #18717405 - 08/17/13 01:44 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Are you using macro mode on your camera for the close up shots?

It looks like your camera has some great potential which makes me think the close ups shouldnt be that blurry.

If your not using macro mode, turn it on for the close ups (little flower button on your camera) and the closeups will be crystal clear.


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Re: I can't get no... [Re: OregonBlueShroom]
    #18717718 - 08/17/13 04:15 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

That plant (#6) happens to have been growing in my back garden for a few years now. I've been wondering what it is.


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Re: I can't get no... [Re: Untitled]
    #18718213 - 08/17/13 09:08 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Are you using macro mode on your camera for the close up shots?




I have a brand new fuji s4200, DID use macro and super macro - but I'm missing something.  I've tried using distance and zoom in macro to get 'em crystal clear but for some reason I'm failing miserably.  I can get maybe 1 shot in 6 or 8 that's acceptable focus...



I wasn't willing to get on my belly in the muck for that lbm in the alder...  Not a sexy shroom.  ;-)  The track was narrow and not much room to maneuver.

Tips welcome.

Stranger with the same plant - what's your location?  Oh, I see now that your profile sez England?  Curioser and curioser.


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Re: I can't get no... [Re: fry day]
    #18718350 - 08/17/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Drive up north a bit homie. How far south are you? Like port Orford south?


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Re: I can't get no... [Re: Ganzig]
    #18718556 - 08/17/13 11:38 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Coos Bay/North Bend.

I'm tight and my truck gets 11mpg - prolly wait for the rain to come to me.  And it will, it will.

But thanks, Ganz!

I just feel like my mojo's broken, the buyers are gettin' lotsa chanties and lobsters.  ;-)

Hit up another park yesterday, way dry, one bit of fungus on a tree, but looks like prime matsi habitat.  I'll have some sexy pics then.

EDIT: Matsutake taken last mid Dec in my hood:



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"Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats."

"The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."


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Re: I can't get no... [Re: fry day]
    #18718773 - 08/17/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I think your plant with the red berries could be an Hypericum sp.


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Re: I can't get no... [Re: pouihi]
    #18718807 - 08/17/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Something like Hypericum androsaemum maybe, I just don't know if you have that in Oregon.


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Re: I can't get no... [Re: pouihi]
    #18718850 - 08/17/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks so much!  Yes, looks like that variety is a native to eurasia, no mention of it being here...  But it sho' nuff is quite similar.

All I know of hypericum is the yellow flowering groundcover that I love to hate, commonly known as St. John's wort...  But this gives me a clue to further study.


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"Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats."

"The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."


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Re: I can't get no... [Re: fry day]
    #18718931 - 08/17/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know the genus very well, but they say this species invasive so although it's native from Eurasia it could also be there.
I checked other species from the genus but most appear to have smaller if not different leaves, I think most have yellow flowers.
The berries should be yellowish at first, turning red and then black as they mature.


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Re: I can't get no... [Re: pouihi]
    #18718988 - 08/17/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Good job!

Found it.

http://hear.org/pier/species/hypericum_androsaemum.htm

But, whatwhat?

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Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats.




I didn't realize "not smelling of goats" was a standard plant indicator.


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"Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats."

"The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."


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Re: I can't get no... [Re: fry day]
    #18719007 - 08/17/13 01:55 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

:laugh2: I'd really like to know which leaves will smell like goats when crushed.

But maybe we should also apply this to mushroom id like, stem - when crushed not smelling of monkeys.
It would most certainly be a major improvement.


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Re: I can't get no... [Re: pouihi]
    #18719042 - 08/17/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Makes sense to me!  :crazy:  I'll be sure to try and work that into my fungal descriptions from now on.

This silliness just reinforces my distrust of most "experts".  How does such nonsense make its' way into "official" documentation?

Oh, and I'm gonna destroy it when I'm over in that neighborhood next...  That lot's in enough trouble with the berries 'n such.


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"Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats."

"The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."


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Re: I can't get no... [Re: fry day]
    #18719049 - 08/17/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Better yet, that's goin' in my sig right now.


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"Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats."

"The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."


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Re: I can't get no... [Re: fry day]
    #18720775 - 08/17/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I wouldn't destroy it.
But if you are going to do it, be sure you'll only destroy the ones that don't smell like goat when crushed  :hangovershades:


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Re: I can't get no... [Re: pouihi]
    #18720802 - 08/17/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Also, could your #1 be young specimens of Agrocybe praecox or similar? Did you take a spore print?


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Re: I can't get no... [Re: pouihi]
    #18720961 - 08/17/13 10:40 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

those last mushrooms on the ferns... they look an awful lot like Tricholoma magnivelare. did you notice an odor with them?


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Re: I can't get no... [Re: LuckOfTheFryish]
    #18721467 - 08/18/13 01:03 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I would consider looking in a higher altitude.


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Re: I can't get no... [Re: Joust]
    #18722088 - 08/18/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Figured I'd take all the berries and destroy the seeds.  Seriously we have enough problem with various invasives that I try to do my part to killkillkill them.  I wish I could destroy scotch broom with some wizardry, it's tough.  They reactivated the rail line past here, sprayed something that killed that shit dead and now I won't go anywhere near those tracks and warned my neighbors who regularly walked their pups up there.  Must have been supernasty to take out the broom.  That stuff seems to change the soil, takes over cleared areas and good luck restoring that land.  I pull the smaller ones when I can but it's a futile gesture.  I don't find fungus much where it's plentiful.  ;-(

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Also, could your #1 be young specimens of Agrocybe praecox or similar? Did you take a spore print?




I'll compare to that.  The one I plucked really didn't lay down a print - maybe a bit of brown...  They fruit on my weedlawn whenever they get moisture so I can try again.  I'm pretty sure they're nuthin' fancy but I like be a know-it-all.

Hey, Fry!!!  Pleasedtomeetcha!  Yes, those most certainly ARE matsutake from my neighborhood last mid Dec.  Never believed I'd be doin' this but I'm looking forward to the rain and chill for fungus to pop after the last few barren forays.  Gotta tear myself away from this and get some outside work done while I've still got dry, tho'.

Yes, Joust, came to the same conclusion...  I think I need to get up higher for chicken, but most of the rest of it is right here in my hood once it gets wet.

Thanks everyone!


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Re: I can't get no... [Re: fry day]
    #18722612 - 08/18/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Hm, #1 on the lawn maybe Agrocybe molesta, now I know what to compare to when I get another fresh sample.

What I'd REALLY like to figure out is that honkin' canker on the aspen, #3.  My online search has only turned up weepy bleedy lookin' things and the heart rot, which I have pics of from this foray, I think:



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"Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats."

"The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."


Edited by fry day (05/18/14 08:52 PM)


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