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OfflineManianFHS
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Re: Grasping at the unlikeliness of your existence [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18716431 - 08/16/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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you say there is nothing beyond death, but what was your existence before you were born?

were you...

nothing?



yeah, nothingness. then i went from cells to a fetus, to a babe to the person i am today. all from a sperm and some egg in my mother. i guess that's not nothing, right? but before, that happened, i was nothing. i wasn't anything.




The law of conservation of matter and energy would state otherwise. You have always been something, since the beginning of time, matter, and energy, you have been taking on different forms and consciousnesses to reach your current state. It will never be your final state though, unless time, matter, and energy ceases to exist.

We're all here in this massive recycling plant of a universe, for eternity :smile:


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ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."


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Re: Grasping at the unlikeliness of your existence [Re: ManianFH]
    #18716435 - 08/16/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

yeah, i was talking hypothetically, man. i know tat.

PS: to add to your wonderful statement... light succeeds consciousness. :wink:


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Re: Grasping at the unlikeliness of your existence [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18719215 - 08/17/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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light succeeds consciousness. :wink:



the significance of this is astounding. did you know the speed of light fluctuates? it wasn't until some decades ago that scientists defined the speed of light regardless of its clear fluctuations in our measurements.

mainstream scientists claim our measurements are not accurate to pick up on clear data, but that doesn't account for the fact that the speed of light was actually shown to be gradually increasing over time, up until the point we had defined it, and ignored the fluctuations.



anyway, if you know anything about the photon, you know that it's the fastest particle in the known universe, so EVERYTHING else moves at a speed, slower than it, and relative to it.

according to einstein's relativity, the faster an object moves, or the closer it reaches the speed of light, time would appear to be slowing down (according to relativity). as you go faster and faster, time around you would appear to be going slower and slower.

NOW. what would happen if you approach the speed of light? what would happen if you would be moving at the same speed as light? well, time would stop, basically.

since everything in the universe that can be measured is relative to the speed of light, light would seem to exist in a state outside of temporal and spatial locality.

photons of light would actually reach their destination instantaneously, the same moment they were emitted. no time would pass at all.

however, outside of the realm of light, where things move much slower, an accumulation of time would have appeared to pass.


time is process. time is change. light is constant and exists at all points in all space and time, simultaneously.

what does this say about our measurements? what does this say about our conscious processes?
what does this say about who we are in terms of this "light energy", which we all come from, and which exists beyond space and time?

:smile:


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Re: Grasping at the unlikeliness of your existence [Re: Envix]
    #18719227 - 08/17/13 02:54 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

If the universe exists for infinity and is infinite, then it's pretty unlikely for me not to exist.
To be exact, i will exist over and over again, on different planets, different galaxies and even super clusters.

If you look at infinity and the change that can happen in that time, everything is very likely


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Re: Grasping at the unlikeliness of your existence [Re: Impulze]
    #18719241 - 08/17/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Impulze said:
If the universe exists for infinity and is infinite, then it's pretty unlikely for me not to exist.
To be exact, i will exist over and over again, on different planets, different galaxies and even super clusters.

If you look at infinity and the change that can happen in that time, everything is very likely




I like that. :thumbup:


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Re: Grasping at the unlikeliness of your existence [Re: Envix]
    #18720002 - 08/17/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Envix said:
what does this say about who we are in terms of this "light energy", which we all come from, and which exists beyond space and time?

:smile:



we're one and same, in the sense that we're a pile of cells that evolved to create an organism, that is highly flawed in it's reasoning and functionality.


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