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Tool Fucking Rocks!
#18718774 - 08/17/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Their cds are materpieces.  Each with a different flavor of brilliance.
The lyrical content of Lateralus is comparable to some of the best text one may read in search for spiritual comfort.
Edited by cez (08/17/13 12:52 PM)
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: cez]
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agreed.
i hear they are coming out with a new album. their typical 8 years between albums timeframe
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: ManianFH]
#18718791 - 08/17/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fuck YEAH TOOL BITCHES
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I'm going to play Lateralus for the students in my math class on Tuesday or Wednesday over the projector as an example of the Fibonacci sequence (I'm gonna play the youtube vid where they actually count the syllables). I don't actually have to teach the Fibonacci sequence in that class, I just wanted a reason to play some Tool.
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i have an extended personal edit of lateralus i made, not sure i wast to share it though, i was palying arround making my own extension of a load of songs over a 6 month period in acid pro then thought do i dare interfere with this brilliant album but then thought what the fuck and made a few sublte extensions of a few track i thought could use it and left most as they were, think its ok
let the onsluahgt of how dare you's commense
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You are a math teacher? High school?
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: tlien]
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didnt see that post, so school of rock becomes true for some lucky class, really looking foward to theier new album any of you hear the Volto! album, wasn't bad but got a little bored with no lyrics
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a perfect circle is pretty great as well
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: cez]
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You listen to Tool when you are apathetic with the way things are, atleast I feel that way when I listen to Tool. Though you are correct in stating that you feel a very spiritual vibration when listening to them. I remember I went to a Tool concert 3 years ago, before I went to London to study medicine. I had to cancel my plans I made to go out to lunch with my friend, and instead I chose to fly and see Tool live. When I got there I realized everyone around me was a tool fan and they were awaiting to celebrate the concert. Some were wearing t shirts which had Tool logos attached to them, I was one of the few that was wearing a Talking Heads t shirt opposed to the home shirt. The lead singer was acting strange, y'know how rock n roll singers can get a bit unsteady, may fall over in the middle of the act, or so it seems at first glance. Anyways he allowed some fans on stage as he performed his song, and we were more than glad to join him on stage. I felt so excited that I was near the lead singer of Tool and nearly cried. I suppressed that cry from leaving me, and instead I stood next to him and felt great. I agree that the lyrics seem to direct to your most deepest parts, and because of that I always listen to them before I'm going to trip, especially the song "Disposition?". I think that's the one I'm thinking of right now, its a great spiritual song to prepare you for your journey on psychedelics.
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: cez]
#18719110 - 08/17/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think it's funny how Tool got people to wear shirts with TOOL written across them
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: Shroomism]
#18719117 - 08/17/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: cez]
#18719138 - 08/17/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tool is great, I have started liking them quite a bit. On behalf of the rest of the world, I urge you NOT to become one of the Tool fans who searches for hidden meanings/fibonacci sequence/clear illuminati references/areyoufuckingserious in every song/album/album cover/band member's t shirt. That gets so incredibly annoying. Tool fans discredit their band the same way the "bros" at a Dave Matthews Concert discredits theirs, and it really shouldn't be the case.
edit: inb4 "dude you don't understand. By the way did you know 9/11 was foreshadowed in Tool's first album???"
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: OZA]
#18719162 - 08/17/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have recently gotten into tool after feeling meh about them forever and damn I was missing out. They sure are good on their good songs.
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: Shins]
#18719167 - 08/17/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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My favorite songs right now are "the pot" and "right in two"
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: OZA]
#18719183 - 08/17/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah some fans will purposely be misled to believe that Tool are implementing hidden meanings behind what is originally saw up front. If you read the lyrics the first time and go back to look them over you won't find anything too subliminal, atleast I haven't seen anything that points to a conspiracy. Sometimes people will post announcements that Tool doesn't put hidden symbols into things without them, and because of that they earn the respect of everyone.
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: drkkenny]
#18719192 - 08/17/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah that's nonsense. Tool is pretty deep into occult-ish things. They did/do put hidden meanings in a bunch of songs. But that doesn't mean you can't take them at face value either. And that doesn't mean ALL their songs are like that.
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: Shroomism]
#18719221 - 08/17/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think it's cool that people try to find hidden meanings in the music and lyrics and videos.
For me it's more about pure sonic overload. I'm less concerned with the lyrical narrative than I am with the instrumental and vocal performance.
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: cez]
#18719335 - 08/17/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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tool is ok. not really this hype-worthy, sorry.
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I'm all for the (to each his own) bit. But i'll never understand how tool could be considered as "just okay". I've always thought of em as the Pink Floyd of a new era. Endless depth and meaning in there, lyrically and musically.
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: 1234go]
#18719576 - 08/17/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't look for hidden meanings, but I relate a lot of their songs in comparison to my psychedelic mishaps and philosophical/spiritual studies.
For example, I'll read a book on Vedantic ideology and then listen to Tool, then find a correlation between what I read and what I hear. (It's all for personal satisfaction)
But I haven't tripped with them yet...The day is approaching...
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: cez]
#18719722 - 08/17/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes, Tool is the best... 
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: Sanguine]
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: tlien]
#18720676 - 08/17/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Aenema is awesome 
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: cez]
#18720752 - 08/17/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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what makes this band stand out the most for me is the drumming. obviously it all has to come together, and every member of the band does their part and then some to paint that picture, but seriously, listening to danny carreys drumming is like a meditation. You can listen to it 100 times and still discover something new when you focus on it that 101st time.
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: ManianFH]
#18720813 - 08/17/13 10:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Danny carrey is the shit! My favorites are Jambi, 46&2, rosetta stoned, and the grudge.
I'm currently practicing with a buddy, I drum, he plays guitar. when we work them up and record them I will post them.
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: omegafaust]
#18720857 - 08/17/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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if youre in southern california lets jam
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: ManianFH]
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Sadly I'm not in socal, I'm in colorado, but i may be back on the weat coast in a couple of weeks or so.
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: omegafaust]
#18722099 - 08/18/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I love how Tool jam.. all there musical and vocal parts are structured perfectly and fit like a puzzle. Eagerly awaiting for the new album!!
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: Shroomism]
#18722234 - 08/18/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I love Tool's music, but many of their fans are complete wastes of flesh. I once knew a guy who had a Tool mousepad and a picture on his work desk of his fucking chihuahua in a Tool doggie shirt.
I told him to listen very, very closely to the lyrics of Hooker with a Penis.
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: OZA]
#18722413 - 08/18/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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OZA said: Tool is great, I have started liking them quite a bit. On behalf of the rest of the world, I urge you NOT to become one of the Tool fans who searches for hidden meanings/fibonacci sequence/clear illuminati references/areyoufuckingserious in every song/album/album cover/band member's t shirt. That gets so incredibly annoying. Tool fans discredit their band the same way the "bros" at a Dave Matthews Concert discredits theirs, and it really shouldn't be the case.
edit: inb4 "dude you don't understand. By the way did you know 9/11 was foreshadowed in Tool's first album???"
You're full of shit, and here's why:
1- Tool has purposely worked a number of interesting little things into the music for the fans to discover. Try to tell me that the Fibonacci stuff with Lateralus was coincidental and not done on purpose. Go for it.....
2- Perhaps you hadn't heard about the "secret" / puzzle that tool released with 10,000 days. From the very moment of the release they acknowledged that there was some secret puzzle buried in the album for some fan to discover.
Eventually a fan did discover it (and it only took a neuroscientist.) As it turns out, the album 10,000 days is intended as a representation of the kabbalistic tree of life. The fan who actually "got it" (after a number of years) explained it quite nicely in a letter that was published in tool's newsletter. However, this remained a secret for a number of years (what, like six?) during which many fans discussed and speculated.
So that being said-- tell me again how it's somehow invalid or misguided to go analyzing tool's music and looking for something deeper....? Perhaps that annoys you. Maybe it's because you could never figure this shit out and are secretly bitter about it? Maybe "all" you hear is music? Maybe you're just an anti-intellectual? I have no idea. But IMHO this is actually one of the awesome things that separates tool, and hardcore tool fans from the rest of the population. A thirst for knowledge, and a willingness to "look deeper," for the answers. Capacity for self-reflection and exploration. There's already music for people who don't like to think. Plenty of it. Tool is for us. 
Here's that newsletter entry explaining the 10,000 days / Tree of Life connection, for those curious:
http://www.toolband.com/news/letter/index.php?t=1&id=68
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E-MAIL SUBJECT: “10,000 DAYS PUZZLE…”
“Dear Blair, you might recall that we met a couple of times at Volto! Baked Potato shows 1.5 years ago. I am a neuroscientist that chatted with you about vision science, tryptamine elves, and more. After one of the shows, Danny recommended, based on my interests, that I read "An Homage to Pythagoras". Since then I have been doing some work with contemplative geometry using Robert Lawlor's book "Sacred Geometry" as a workbook. After some time, the pieces began to fall together, my contemplative eye has widened, and the story continues.
For the purposes of this email: I believe that I have solved the 10,000 Days puzzle, to whatever extent the word 'solve' can mean here, since the puzzle this album alludes to has been the eternal quest of mankind.
10,000 Days as an album maps on the Kabbalah Tree of Life (TOL). There are several layers:
A) The album has 11 tracks, each of which corresponds to a specific Sefira on the TOL. Although the TOL is read from the top down, I list it here in the order of the album tracks, with the corresponding English translation and meaning. (A) presents the basic structure that holds true across further interpretation, while (B) and (C) iare more of my own perspective on the songs and album and how it all ties in with mystical traditions.
1. Vicarious - Malkut, "kingdom" - (1st chakra); tribal energy; 12 tribes of israel; 12 zodiac signs; 12 apostles; connection to nature, environment, rhythm of physical life; baptism 2. Jambi - Yesod, "foundation" - (2nd chakra); communion with others; vitality; creative force of life; 3. Wings for Marie, Pt. 1 - Hod, "majesty" - (3rd chakra); integrity; majesty of God; confirmation; honor code with oneself 4. 10,000 Days (Wings, Pt. 2) - Netzah, "victory", "eternity", "endurance" (3rd chakra); endurance; commitment 5. The Pot - Tif'eret, "adornment", "balance" - (4th chakra); heart; compassion, love; harmony 6. Lipan Conjuring - Da'at, "knowledge" 7. Lost Keys (Blame Hoffman) - Gevurah, "judgement", "concealment" - (5th chakra); power of judgement; the right use of one's will 8. Rosetta Stoned - Hesed, "kindness" - (5th chakra); will power, voicing a confession 9. Intension - Binah, "understanding" - (6th chakra); the divine understanding and intelligence of God; intention is developed here in the mind 10. Right in Two - Hokhmah, "wisdom" - (6th chakra, third eye); the energy of wisdom; contact point between mind of the divine and the personal mind; takes wisdom to contact God 11. Viginti Tres - Keter, "crown" - (7th chakra); Divine consciousness
B) The overarching theme that first came to me in the album was that the album begins in a state of division (Vicarious - "carnivore and voyeur"; Malkut; first chakra; survival) and ascends up the spiritual ladder to a state of Unity in Cosmic consciousness (Viginti Tres; Keter; the crown chakra). Then there are 3 pairs of tracks: Wings 1+2, Lost Keys + Rosetta, Intension + Right in Two, which match up perfectly.
When the pairs are taken as one on the same level, the sefirot correspond to the seven chakras and seven sacraments in the Vedic and Christian traditions, respectively (reference: "Energy Anatomy" by Caroline Myss). The meaning of each sefira also matches up with the rough energy of each song, as noted above. In more detail, Vicarious is the energy and rhythm of the tribe and connection to nature; here the lyrics present the schizoid nature of man in a world that feeds on tragedy. Jambi is the foundation and center of vitality gained by communion with others, here referring to both the sun (Son in Christianity) and perhaps Maynard's own son on the personal side of the coin. Both Wings pieces are majestic odes to the endurance and divine "victory" of Judith Marie as well as Maynard's personal sense of integrity bestowed to him by Marie as well as his own endurance through her ordeal of 10,000 days. The Pot was for a long time for me a stand-alone track in the album, a kind of adornment; it seemed to bring harmony to the rest of the album in some uncanny way. Funny enough, the translation of Tif'eret is "adornment" and implies balance, which in retrospect match my feelings exactly. This track establishes harmony, albeit in a kind of helium-belting rant in an androgynous voice that seems, perhaps, to blend the polarized feminine and masculine sides of the TOL. It's reference to getting high integrates Lost Keys and Rosetta Stoned, as well as provides the cauldron that acts as an alchemical conversion point between the higher and lower sefirot. Lost Keys translates to "concealment", and along with Rosetta Stoned represent the throat chakra, which parallels with the song's protagonist voicing a confession. The "kindness" translation attributed to Hesed (corresponding to Rosetta Stoned) is actually referring to the right use of one's will; how one will use the power of judgement, hopefully for expanding compassion and kindness, according to the mystical traditions. Intension conveys a sense of understanding (Binah) of how the manifest world works, as conveyed by the lyrics that run forward and backwards; intention is developed in the mind in conjunction with understanding and the intelligence. Right in Two is a track that conveys wisdom (Hokhmah), and together with Intension represent the 6th chakra, or third eye. Through wisdom and understanding, God or Divine Consciousness can be contacted from the manifest realm. The Divine Consciousness is represented by Viginti Tres (Keter), which translates to "crown" and correlates to the 7th chakra, from which the TOL begins its downward descent.
(C) Track 6, Lipan Conjuring, is at the center of the album, and its track number ties into its position on the TOL, surrounded by a hexagon. Tef'eret (The Pot) is also at the center of a hexagon and functions as an exchange/balance point. Incidentally, The Pot's alchemical implication corresponds with the sacred geometrical significance of the hexagon as the defining crystal structure of organic compounds (the benzene ring). In Da'at, all the other sefirot in the TOL are united as one. Accordingly, this track is in a sense the central ceremonial fire from which the other tracks on the album reveal themselves; it is the conjuring up of duality so that the Divine Light (emanating from pulses in Viginti Tres, Keter at the crown) can descend and be seen through the crystallizations of the individual tracks. Indeed, a wave-like pulsation is found throughout the album, which to my mind is the cosmic pulsation from Keter. Da'at is not commonly conveyed in depictions of the sefirot and it is not a proper sefira; it is all of them as one. Da'at serves as the connecting point between the sefirot closer to the Source (later tracks) and the sefirot further down in manifestation that deal with emotions (earlier tracks). Furthermore, Da'at is situated in the so-called "Abyss" of the TOL, a kind of no-man's-land between the archetypal and manifest (Real and Unreal, respectively, in Aleister Crowley's words) that acts as a mirror or reflection point for higher and lower halves of the TOL. Hence, the placement of Lipan Conjuring at the center of the album is appropriate: it is from here that a recognition of the higher level patterning of the album begins to be apprehended.
The track ordering of the album is one sense indicative of the songs' spots on the TOL, but in another sense, the ordering is nonlinear and hyperdimensional; it must be contemplated from a standpoint of sacred geometry, mysticism, and repeated listening so that musical patterns and motifs can elucidate the mystery of the Tree of Life.
If my interpretations are not the purported "solution" the 10,000 Days puzzle, I hope that they offered you an entertaining and thoughtful read. If nothing else, 10,000 Days—apart from being an incredible album that has brought me much bliss and divine communion in listening—has been a wonderful link between my own musicianship, yoga, and studies of consciousness. I would love to hear your feedback regardless of whether or I've lost the keys to unlocking this puzzle.” Best regards, Gabriel
MY REPLY:
Great job, and it only took a neuroscientist to figure this out. Thanks, my friend!
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^ I didn't know that but that blows me away.
I thought they (Or Maynard) were geniuses specifically because of their lyrics and I knew about the Fibonacci Sequence in Lateralus, but fuck are they smart
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: cez]
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tool's always been into magick. i've read that they intentionally make their lyrics ambiguous so that everyone can get something out of them. the musical delivery of the message is definitely a magickal concept. i think danny carey is into enochian magcick. or at least he works references to it into their music. i'm pretty sure the big gong he has behind his kit has something to do with all that stuff. it's unsurprising that 10,000 days is a representation of the tree of life.
aenima and lateralus are masterpieces imo. i've worn out several copies of both. i thought 10,000 days had some good songs but overall it was a disappointment. i'm hoping they redeem themselves with their next one. i'm a long time fan, but some of their fan base makes me cringe from their doucheyness.
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OZA said: Tool is great, I have started liking them quite a bit. On behalf of the rest of the world, I urge you NOT to become one of the Tool fans who searches for hidden meanings/fibonacci sequence/clear illuminati references/areyoufuckingserious in every song/album/album cover/band member's t shirt. That gets so incredibly annoying. Tool fans discredit their band the same way the "bros" at a Dave Matthews Concert discredits theirs, and it really shouldn't be the case.
edit: inb4 "dude you don't understand. By the way did you know 9/11 was foreshadowed in Tool's first album???"
You're full of shit, and here's why:
1- Tool has purposely worked a number of interesting little things into the music for the fans to discover. Try to tell me that the Fibonacci stuff with Lateralus was coincidental and not done on purpose. Go for it.....
Thank you, I was surprised when he claimed it was reaching to say that the Fibonacci sequence is used in Lateralus.
They do this to some extent in A Perfect Circle as well- while the album's name is Mer de Noms (Sea of Names) the symbols can be translated to La Cascade des Prenoms, or The Waterfall of First Names.
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: millzy]
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millzy said: i think danny carrie is into enochian magcick. or at least he works references to it into their music. i'm pretty sure the big gong he has behind his kit has something to do with all that stuff. it's unsurprising that 10,000 days is a representation of the tree of life.
Yeah he is, I just looked him up on wiki- I had heard about his use of sacred geometry in his drumming, but didn't know this other stuff:
Religion and the occult
Although Carey has not officially aligned himself with any particular school of philosophy or religion, he has projected a deep interest in and understanding for the magical arts - among them various occult teachings. Enochian symbols, geometric designs, and special symbolic percussive devices are featured on and in his drum kit. He is also a collector of First Edition Aleister Crowley books as well as books by one of Crowley's more innovative students, Kenneth Grant. Geometric designs
Carey has laid claim to various drumming techniques that use sacred geometric figures such as the unicursal hexagram. The final product is very recognizable, fluent drumming, although to him it is much more: the official Tool website claims that Danny uses drumming as a ritual similar to occult rituals,[2] with purposes varying from spiritual exploration to "a gateway [which] summoned a daemon he has contained...that has been delivering short parables similar to passages within The Book of Lies". Another geometric reference from the website was the inclusion of Nothing in This Book Is True... by Bob Frissell[3] on the band's recommended reading list, a book that deals with sacred geometry and the evolution of human consciousness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Carey
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You guys are falling for it.
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You guys are falling for it.
no, you dont make that kind of music by just jamming out in a studio till it feels right. there is a lot of thought behind their music and any experienced musician will attest to it, including myself
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ahahaha I have a Tool shirt and these young girls go, "He's a TOOL, ahahaha..."
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Stupid bitches. They're both in my freezer now.
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: circastes]
#18722974 - 08/18/13 01:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I like the guitarist a lot. Adam Jones is hella tight. As prolific as tool is there isn't much footage or interview of him.
IMO him and the drummer ARE tool. I don't like the vocals much. The drummer plays in polyrhythm and it's just tight as hell.
Check out the drummer, Danny Carry to.
He is a WAY good drummer. fuckin stellar.
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Tom Morello (Rage Against The Machine) and Adam Jones (Tool) jamming guitar as kids.
they played together in the garage band Electric Sheep, a band that has the distinction of having two members that feature in Rolling Stone’s list of the 100 greatest guitarists of rock history.

haha pretty cool right ? these two guitarists are epic.
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: circastes]
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circastes said: ahahaha I have a Tool shirt and these young girls go, "He's a TOOL, ahahaha..."
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Stupid bitches. They're both in my freezer now.
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: ManianFH]
#18723093 - 08/18/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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You guys are falling for it.
no, you dont make that kind of music by just jamming out in a studio till it feels right. there is a lot of thought behind their music and any experienced musician will attest to it, including myself
But, but, but, but Maynard said:
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Over thinking, over analyzing, separates the body from the mind. Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines.
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Over thinking, over analyzing, separates the body from the mind. Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines.


Good boy/girl. Don't think. Do just marinarinard tells you to do
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Over thinking, over analyzing, separates the body from the mind. Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines.


Good boy/girl. Don't think. Do just marinarinard tells you to do
I shall be a good Tool fan!
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I'm a huge fan
They are so amazing in concert
Can't wait to hear their newest cd! (2014?)
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I like offending people with my tool shirt. It features a big cock on the back.
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Tool fans are either really smart or really fucking stupid kind of people. 
I fucking love tool though, me and my buddy have a pact to drop a 10 strip when/if we ever have the chance to see them live.
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You guys are falling for it.
no, you dont make that kind of music by just jamming out in a studio till it feels right. there is a lot of thought behind their music and any experienced musician will attest to it, including myself
But, but, but, but Maynard said:
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Over thinking, over analyzing, separates the body from the mind. Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines.

I know why does HE FUCK WUITH ME?!?!
screw this im listening to willybum
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You guys are falling for it.
if "falling for it" implies that they make music that i like listening to, well you got me there.
btw, whatever happened to the volto! album???? does anyone know? it was supposed to be released before 10,000 days.
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: millzy]
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i think its already been released.
i remember going to a volto show like 2 years ago, I think danny carrey had like a question/answer session after the gig and he was talking about how his setup was mimicking some pentagram configuration. i couldve been drunk though and made that all up in my head.
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Here's that newsletter entry explaining the 10,000 days / Tree of Life connection, for those curious:
http://www.toolband.com/news/letter/index.php?t=1&id=68
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: cez]
#18726466 - 08/19/13 08:26 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Used to listen to them a fair bit back in the day in the 90's. Pretty decent stuff. Saw them a couple times. Once in San Fran and once in Sacramento. There music is a little angry and dark for my preference these days, but I guess I haven't heard much of their new stuff
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I fuckin love tool!! there was a point where I would break a tool cd if I saw one cause I had a weird trip a few years back and if made me temporarily hate tool. but I've long since been over that and am greatly anticipating their new cd!!! i broke countless undertow albums y'all ever listin to Maynard's old shit like pusifer? I don't like it really..
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Tool Fucking Rocks!
rock tools are pretty cool, but i am extremely lousy at making them

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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: hidenseek1]
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: circastes]
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circastes said: ahahaha I have a Tool shirt and these young girls go, "He's a TOOL, ahahaha..."
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Stupid bitches. They're both in my freezer now.
Good for you brah. Those girls need to grow up. Some time in the freezer is just what they need.
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tool band name originated from the ideal that their message is to be used as a tool to help others in whatever benefit one may gain from using and listening to tool as a tool for spiritual self improvement through the void.
and in the sequence of tool, the holy gift which is lateralus reconstructed is
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We barely remember who or what came before this precious moment, We are choosing to be here right now. Hold on, stay inside This holy reality, this holy experience. Choosing to be here in
This body. This body holding me. Be my reminder here that I am not alone in This body, this body holding me, feeling eternal All this pain is an illusion.
Alive, I
In this holy reality, in this holy experience. Choosing to be here in
This body. This body holding me. Be my reminder here that I am not alone in This body, this body holding me, feeling eternal All this pain is an illusion.
Twirling round with this familiar parable. Spinning, weaving round each new experience. Recognize this as a holy gift and celebrate this chance to be alive and breathing.
This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality. Embrace this moment. Remember. we are eternal. all this pain is an illusion.
our vessel is mortal but our spirit is eternal. we are a reflection unto others as others are reflections of ourself. In that it shows the world we can create or destroy, as one reflective awareness. As it is we are doing now.
6. Parabol 0:00 7. Parabola 3:04 (13) 5. Schism 9:01 8. Ticks & Leeches 15:44 (13) 4. Mantra* 23:48 9. Lateralus* 23:48 (13)
(13). Faaip de Oiad 33:07
1. The Grudge 35:44 12. Triad 44:15 (13) 2. Eon Blue Apocalypse* 50:56 11. Reflection* 50:46 (13) 3. The Patient 61:02 10. Disposition 67:23 (13)
and we see that each 2 numbers, besides the one in the very middle (faaip de oiad) add up to 13. 13 being used as the main number, times the number of 13s(7) = 91 which could basically mean 9 to 1, or 9+1 to 10 or 1 completing the spiral of karma to understand that you are the will that fractals out into reality. That life is a blessing, regardless that many don't take it for one.
listen and read and read and listen and move forward. embrace your dualistic self which you can see in your mirrored reflection of yourself. Join the two and stop the separation. There is no such thing as ego death, only ego rebirth. Reborn into a new light, a new method of living with unconditional love and not a selfish control of false love.
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Re: Tool Fucking Rocks! [Re: jvm]
#18727041 - 08/19/13 11:13 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah then there is the rearranged version of lateralus, based upon all this stuff.
There is an explanation of how he reached that order in the description of the video.
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