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Re: Switching to a Gaming PC [Re: Shroomism]
    #18721558 - 08/18/13 02:16 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Shroomism no doubt you know your stuff, hell, you even helped me a bit once, but I gotta say, $800 is fine for a gaming pc, for OP...


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Re: Switching to a Gaming PC [Re: Synthe]
    #18721683 - 08/18/13 04:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, I've said it multiple times. You can build something for 800 no doubt.
Probably with an AMD CPU and GPU too. But I'm an Intel/Nvidia guy.

I'm just quoting numbers I see every freaking day. 1k is actually lowballing it. 1200-1300 is actually more like what most people will put into a mid-high end gaming build.

You could take the specs I posted earlier, get some cheap PSU, downgrade the card or get an Radeon card, downgrade the CPU or get an AMD CPU, get a cheaper case, cheaper RAM, and shave a few hundred off the price. But I like to recommend quality components that I know are top quality :shrug: And OP said he wanted something quality to last.

If OP wants to go cheaper, he can go cheaper.


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Re: Switching to a Gaming PC [Re: MilkdudTitties]
    #18721689 - 08/18/13 04:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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i have 1300-1500$ to spend. what kind of specs can that buy me?




I actually just priced out the specs I listed earlier, and it came out a bit over 1k..  right at your budget:

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Shroomism said:

Z87 mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128591 - $135 (could get a different one, I just grabbed the first decent / cheapish one I saw)
i5-4670K - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899 - $240
H100i cooler - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181032 - $110
PC Power and Cooling 750W - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703038 - $140
Corsair Vengeance 8GB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233524 - $86
Corsair 500R case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139009 - $115
Samsung 120GB SSD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147247 - $110
WD 1TB HDD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533 - $90
GTX 760 4gb - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130949 - $315

Total - 1341.





Actually if this were my build I'd go with 16GB of RAM to start with, just because I like to disable the paging file and that 16GB definitely comes in handy for multitasking or vid editing.

Too bad it's not 6-8 months ago when RAM was dirt fucking cheap. I picked up 16GB of G.Skill 1866MHz for like $60. It's practically tripled in price now.

Good thing is SSDs are getting cheaper and cheaper.


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Re: Switching to a Gaming PC [Re: Shroomism]
    #18721962 - 08/18/13 08:08 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Too bad it's not 6-8 months ago when RAM was dirt fucking cheap. I picked up 16GB of G.Skill 1866MHz for like $60. It's practically tripled in price now.




Damn, what's up with that?


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Re: Switching to a Gaming PC [Re: Synthe]
    #18722169 - 08/18/13 09:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Synthe said:
Shroomism no doubt you know your stuff, hell, you even helped me a bit once, but I gotta say, $800 is fine for a gaming pc, for OP...




Yes, with AMD AND Nvidia cards, anyone who just decides they need Intel with Nvidia isn't really paying attention.

I can't say for sure but most of the times I see 800 at least for starters, but at the very least get better components like a graphics card, and what not because you could very well just the fastest AMD CPU on the market and it will indeed run circles around Intel at whatever price point that is. Plus, you can get a super nice AMD board as well.

I haven't seen Memory go up AT ALL, just down.  100 bucks where spent on my 4 gigs, for the time it was built, I will always buy better memory kits so the fact is 8 is enough for most video editing and what not, 16 is just not ever going to be necessary until well after DDR4 comes out.

Like I said, higher end memory has lower latency with all the speeds, etc. You have to know how RAM actually works.


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Re: Switching to a Gaming PC [Re: psi]
    #18722255 - 08/18/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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psi said:
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Shroomism said:
Too bad it's not 6-8 months ago when RAM was dirt fucking cheap. I picked up 16GB of G.Skill 1866MHz for like $60. It's practically tripled in price now.




Damn, what's up with that?



RAM is very volatile, the yields vary significantly between production runs.


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Re: Switching to a Gaming PC [Re: Cannabischarlie] * 1
    #18722259 - 08/18/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Synthe said:
Shroomism no doubt you know your stuff, hell, you even helped me a bit once, but I gotta say, $800 is fine for a gaming pc, for OP...




Yes, with AMD AND Nvidia cards, anyone who just decides they need Intel with Nvidia isn't really paying attention.

I can't say for sure but most of the times I see 800 at least for starters, but at the very least get better components like a graphics card, and what not because you could very well just the fastest AMD CPU on the market and it will indeed run circles around Intel at whatever price point that is. Plus, you can get a super nice AMD board as well.

I haven't seen Memory go up AT ALL, just down.  100 bucks where spent on my 4 gigs, for the time it was built, I will always buy better memory kits so the fact is 8 is enough for most video editing and what not, 16 is just not ever going to be necessary until well after DDR4 comes out.

Like I said, higher end memory has lower latency with all the speeds, etc. You have to know how RAM actually works.



Memory price has ABSOLUTELY gone up in the last few months.  You clearly do not know what you're talking about.


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Re: Switching to a Gaming PC [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #18722294 - 08/18/13 10:35 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Must be all the xbox ones and ps4's they're making

I guess though OP could buy some AMD shit and match it to the console gaming specs to save some money, something like a bulldozer is an ok investment because future games will be tailored to them.


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Re: Switching to a Gaming PC [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #18722395 - 08/18/13 10:56 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Memory price has ABSOLUTELY gone up in the last few months.  You clearly do not know what you're talking about.




If it absolutely has, (and I don't doubt it actually) show me proof. Or at least list what you mean.


Company X charged $99 for X ram set. Same exact RAM is now $120
Company Y charged "                                                              "
Company Z charged "                                                              "


Like that. Plenty of factors go into things, and who is to say it wont go down again?

Hard drives still haven't gone back to where they where when I got a 1.5tb for 55 bucks.

Then again I don't even window shop all the time, I certainly couldn't see much difference in RAM prices but I haven't exactly cataloged everything.

As far as the OP goes, he may consider just getting some older equipment, and seeing how he likes it. It will be light years ahead of the last console, and he will have money for games.

If he gets bored of that, and plays the metric ton of inexpensive games on STEAM or whatever, and wants to move up, well, he can, it's a PC.

NO matter what he does it will still be way better than the last console, but other than the fact that he is just getting into PC gaming, it isn't the best time to build yet.

Lastly, I think if you know how to configure a PhysX processor, er, "stack" this is merely a good use of your old card. I don't recommend anything without GDDR5 but if he got a 550ti, He could easily use that as a PhysX processor with some really fast cards, and get a frame rate boost. This would definitely make for a killer gaming computer, and still be able to use the 550ti or 650 for a reasonable amount of gaming, even for a few years until something great comes out, or prices drop, etc.

Plenty of games already out that use PhysX and I for one notice offloading ALWAYS gets you a higher framerate so long as you do it properly, and allows you to do something with your older graphics card.


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Re: Switching to a Gaming PC [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #18722485 - 08/18/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

What do you expect me to do, go back in time to check prices that from months ago?  Unfortunately, that's not possible.  Shroomism knows it's the truth and psi indicated the he does as well.  The price of memory fluctuates today as it has since I have been building computers - about a 15 year time period.


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Re: Switching to a Gaming PC [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #18722549 - 08/18/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Switching to a Gaming PC [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #18722712 - 08/18/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Shroomism knows it's the truth and psi indicated the he does as well.




It was news to me as I don't follow RAM prices too closely, but I trust that Shroomism knows what he's talking about and I have heard others say that this happens sometimes. Personally I'm hoping that 16 GB sticks of DDR3 will eventually become dirt cheap so I can max out the ram in my computer, but this news makes me wonder if they will or not. HDD prices are something that I follow more closely and that price jump a couple years back was pretty shitty. I believe one of the major players had their production capacity knocked out as a result of the tsunami and the unaffected players chose to capitalize on it. I think 3 TB drives are now cheaper than they were before that happened, but smaller capacity drives don't seem to be.


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Re: Switching to a Gaming PC [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #18723018 - 08/18/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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pwnasaurus said:

Memory price has ABSOLUTELY gone up in the last few months.  You clearly do not know what you're talking about.




If it absolutely has, (and I don't doubt it actually) show me proof. Or at least list what you mean.





What, do you think I just pull this stuff out of my ass? I work in the PC industry and deal with this shit EVERY SINGLE DAY. RAM has definitely gone up in price in the last year.

This EXACT kit of memory - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314
Was $30 last year

Every other kit has also doubled or more in price.
This is because RAM dropped significantly in price for a short period.. it was DIRT CHEAP.
This has NOTHING to do with XBOX and PS4s, as they are completely different memory
And everything to do with the manufacturing plants overseas.

For the a similar reason HDD prices SPIKED significantly after the flooding in Thailand.
This was a sort of opposite effect of over-yields.





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I haven't seen Memory go up AT ALL, just down.  100 bucks where spent on my 4 gigs, for the time it was built, I will always buy better memory kits so the fact is 8 is enough for most video editing and what not, 16 is just not ever going to be necessary until well after DDR4 comes out.




Yeah that's great and all. But I USE 16GB. I have a friend that has 32GB and he is able to max it out doing what he does. So you don't really know what you are talking about. For most people, 8GB is more than enough yes. But to say 16 is not EVER necessary, that's just wrong. For shit like multitasking and heavy video editing and crunching and things like that - more RAM NEVER hurts.


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Re: Switching to a Gaming PC [Re: Shroomism]
    #18723445 - 08/18/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

if you can afford it, get a 4670 (no need to get an unlocked chip unless you plan on overclocking)as well as a gtx 770.


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Re: Switching to a Gaming PC [Re: blackglass6219]
    #18723456 - 08/18/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Fuck that I'm getting an X Box one.


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    #18723491 - 08/18/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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