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miketheexplorer
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Help: Something wrong with my SGFC ?
#18718158 - 08/17/13 08:49 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I followed Hacker420 and Frank's instructions for a SGFC 5 inches perlite I mist 3 times a day, fan each time
I have my Temp/Humidity electronic reader (fairly good one), which keeps reading Temp: 83.6, sometimes 84.4 Humidity: only 52 %
Is this slowing down the growth of my mushrooms?

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Javadog
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I think that you need to calibrate that monitor.
There is no way that a SGFC, with freshly moistened perlite,is not going to get you at least 80% RH....higher really.
Try wrapping a warm, moist towel around the unit. Let us know what it says.
Interesting.
JD
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Re: Help: Something wrong with my SGFC ? [Re: Javadog]
#18718197 - 08/17/13 09:02 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Don't use a hygrometer, a properly made SGFC with the correct amount of misting and fanning will hold the RH, trust the tek.
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Re: Help: Something wrong with my SGFC ? [Re: Pestile]
#18718223 - 08/17/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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And get the cake off the perlite. Put some foil down or a plastic lid or something and stand that bad boy upright. Laying it down your getting less surface area to pin. Not by a ton, but every little bit counts!
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miketheexplorer
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Re: Help: Something wrong with my SGFC ? [Re: Javadog]
#18718228 - 08/17/13 09:14 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Java,
I've misted lightly the perlite on top.
The fresh fully moist perlite was placed several days ago.
am i doing something wrong? do i need to mist more intensely the perlite?
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Re: Help: Something wrong with my SGFC ? [Re: Keyster]
#18718230 - 08/17/13 09:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Add more perlite, you want 5 inches if you are worried about it.
Perlite does not dry out that fast, no need to worry, mist as usual.
As JD mentioned that hygrometer is no doubt horrid...IMO hygrometers are pretty useless in this hobby.
Trust the tek.
Add more perlite.
You'll be golden.
Is the tub elevated off the surface it sits on?
...seriously, throw that piece of shit hygrometer in the trash.
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Re: Help: Something wrong with my SGFC ? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18718239 - 08/17/13 09:20 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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hygrometer is in the trash!
Frank, i got 5 inches of Perlite already as you suggested originally. Add more Perlite? 5 more inches?
Tub is elevated by 4 glass cups.
the temp is 84, is that good?
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Re: Help: Something wrong with my SGFC ? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18718253 - 08/17/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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All good stuff above, OP.
What I think is happening: nothing. Your cake is happy.
This is a wild goose chase, no fault of yours. Get a cheap analog hygrometer and calibrate it in a wet towel, and even then look at it's readings as being at best approximate....or do nothing and trust the tek. :0)
Good luck,
JD
P.S. 84 F is on the high side....try to lower that 5 F or so
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miketheexplorer
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Re: Help: Something wrong with my SGFC ? [Re: Javadog]
#18718437 - 08/17/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks Guys!
Java, What about adding 2 more inches of fresh Perlite, you think that might help?
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I think you guys are VASTLY overestimating the need to follow teks accurately, and you are married to the details.
I used 6 cm of perlite, 1/4" holes, random spacing, I misted using my sterilized fingers repeatedly dipped in water and flicking it onto the cakes, and I had no problems whatsoever. I also used 2 dl glasses.
So I can safely say I did not follow the teks religiously.
If some of you guys get told a grower used 2.5 in spacing instead of 2 inches, you start frothing at the mouth and hammer him down like a nail standing out, relax guys, these mushrooms aren't made of porcelain, seems to me 5 inches of perlite is overkill. There are a thousand ways to do this.
Edited by tlien (08/17/13 11:46 AM)
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Re: Help: Something wrong with my SGFC ? [Re: tlien]
#18718576 - 08/17/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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tlien said: There are a thousand ways to do this.
Following a TEK exactly does give you a baseline of understanding. PF Tek is both simple and successful. Having a large bin with many cakes may require slightly different setup than a small SGFC with only a few. Finding the perfect balance really takes time, and attention to detail. I agree 100% that there are many ways to do this, but doing it by the book and adjusting when needed is better than rounding corners and trying to correct later.
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tlien


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Sure, but the guy has FIVE inches of perlite, which is over twice as much as I used, and is told to add more... Unless he failed complete at moistening the perlite, I'd say the quantity of it is not the issue.
Personally, I filled a strainer with perlite, and submerged it in a large pot filled with cold water. Raised it, let it drip until it the dripping was very infrequent, the poured it into the chamber. Can't get much more saturated than that.
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miketheexplorer
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Re: Help: Something wrong with my SGFC ? [Re: tlien]
#18718645 - 08/17/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just added 1 more inch of Perlite ... 6 inches :-))
Gotta get that humidity action going !
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FrankHorrigan
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His humidity is fine, the hygrometer is a piece of shit.
An extra inch of perlite never hurts though.
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miketheexplorer
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Re: Help: Something wrong with my SGFC ? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18718737 - 08/17/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hydrometer is gone!!
Since i got so many brainiac cultivators on this thread i'm gonna redirect this a bit. I imagine this cake will fruit in several days. But then i gotta leave home for 3 weeks.
Can I place the once fruited cake in a tupperware case. Seal it. And place it in the fridge, till I come back, and get a second fruiting???
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Quote:
pierre2008 said: Hydrometer is gone!!
Since i got so many brainiac cultivators on this thread i'm gonna redirect this a bit. I imagine this cake will fruit in several days. But then i gotta leave home for 3 weeks.
Can I place the once fruited cake in a tupperware case. Seal it. And place it in the fridge, till I come back, and get a second fruiting???
Brainiacs? Don't be an asshole, we're all trying to help you.
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miketheexplorer
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Re: Help: Something wrong with my SGFC ? [Re: tlien]
#18718812 - 08/17/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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tlen, i don't like you attitude so get the fuck off this thread. your telling people to relax, like your some kinda king of shrooms.
FYI, brainiacs is a compliment compared to a total beginner idiot like myself
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FrankHorrigan
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Quote:
tlien said: Brainiacs? Don't be an asshole, we're all trying to help you.
I don't think he meant it sarcastically, he's been enthusiastic about our support thus far 
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pierre2008 said: But then i gotta leave home for 3 weeks. Can I place the once fruited cake in a tupperware case. Seal it. And place it in the fridge, till I come back, and get a second fruiting???
Sure you can. It may not recover, but there's no harm in trying 
Just give it a good 12-24 hour dunk when you get back.
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miketheexplorer
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Re: Help: Something wrong with my SGFC ? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18719130 - 08/17/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks Frank.
Brother your a trusted cultivator with over 4000 posts. If you told me to sing Mary Had a Little Lamb to the mushrooms and that would make them grow strong, i do it 3 times a day. You said 1/4 inch hold every 2 inches 5 inches of perlite did it.
i don't need to reinvent the wheel, i want learn from the elders on of this tradition!!!
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