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GreySatyr
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Psychedelic "Must Tries"
#18718074 - 08/17/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd like to make a list of psychedelics that everyone should try within their lifetimes. If you can, please name one or more that you believe everyone should try and then say WHY...if its already one that's been said then please try and refrain from repeating it. I'll go ahead and write off the most obvious and the classic psychedelics that most of us already know about.
Psilocybin n-n-DMT LSD Mescaline MDA
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: GreySatyr]
#18718083 - 08/17/13 08:13 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eh, I dunno if 'everyone' should try anything...I've seen people react very unpleasantly to psychedelics. I used to hold the belief that everyone should try LSD but when it comes down to it I think it's a personal decision.
If someone was determined to try ONE psychedelic drug, it would be LSD, though.
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: birds]
#18718095 - 08/17/13 08:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow, didn't read my post at all and stated an opinion that I didn't ask for. Yeeeah, next!
Oh and I didn't mean everyone, I meant everyone who desires to trip. Jesus!!!
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: GreySatyr]
#18718131 - 08/17/13 08:35 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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LSD,Salvia,Shrooms
in no specific order, they are all equally great
all psychedelics are great and can teach much the same and all can be about equally intense it seems
5g of mushrooms, wouldn't do that too often  just 0.038g of salvia 20x standardized takes me out of body everytime into a new reality that I can feel,walk around in, talk to people I seem to know in
LSD is like mushrooms, but even more love it seems, and impossible to get a bad trip if you respect set,setting,dose (haven't had one I can remember), mushrooms are easy to mess up with it seems LSD reconnects you with yourself and the earth/nature (mushrooms do the same, but trip only lasts about half as long)
seems all psychedelics can be equally spiritual, they all teach, but we must integrate it afterwards
I don't smoke salvia often, it is a bit too intense, but can be more fun than weed with friends IMO weed does nothing for me, except give me munchies salvia always improves mood next day (no hangover, but good connection with nature) one night I had 3 long lucid dreams after a salvia session, never had so many in 1 night, usually only 1, could remember 100% from them lucid dreams are better than any trip :-)
also salvia gives me the relaxed stoned feeling weed does if you smoke the plain leaves it feels much like a good stoned indica last time I tried... enjoyed it, but got incredibly heavy, no trip relaxed,good mood for rest of the night (good for meditation/lucid dreaming it seems)
chewing quids never did anything for me, tried it maybe 3-5 times very bitter, nothing happened , but it is possible to make it work if combining it with smoking plain leaves it seems would rather just smoke the plain leaves than quid
plain leaves give me no trip, but mild visuals (like on skunk kinda) just relaxed, it's pleasant the times I did it
If I have to pick a favorite all time psychedelic it would be LSD even though mushrooms have shown me the same sometimes, LSD has been teaching me much more (maybe because it is easier to walk around on LSD in nature..., I'm still a bit of a shroom noob) it is easier for me to let go on LSD too, less fighting than on shrooms (shrooms go bad easily for me)
The comedown on LSD is a bit longer, if you take a high dose expect the comedown to take weeks/months sometimes usually isn't a problem on low/medium doses I like the long comedown, everything was beautiful everyday , and still is could only accept and appreciate everything I saw
Just do it, everytime I have done LSD it has made me more happy long term than before and same for most people I've seen (I've done LSD 100+ times in high / very high doses) But I am a careful listener... I just about integrate everything from my experiences follow set,setting,dose carefully each time, take the highest dose I can take (so no fighting), trip around nature/psytrance (pets,houseplants,walk in nature/sit in nature)
Only good trips on LSD, good trips upgrade your soul / remove what you created against yourself
You can learn a lot from nature in trips and after trips, learn from everything around you
Edited by lessismore (08/17/13 09:04 AM)
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: lessismore]
#18718138 - 08/17/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Indeed, definitely the classic psychedelics e.g. LSD, etc. I would recommend trying 5MeO-MIPT (Moxy), as it's a wonderful tryptamine psychedelic very similar to LSD and MDMA combined.
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: GreySatyr]
#18718168 - 08/17/13 08:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
GreyMorph said: Wow, didn't read my post at all and stated an opinion that I didn't ask for. Yeeeah, next!
Oh and I didn't mean everyone, I meant everyone who desires to trip. Jesus!!!
I did read your post. I didn't know it was against the rules to post a dissenting opinion. Thanks for clarifying.
And if someone wants to trip my answer would still be LSD. I know you listed it as being obvious and classic but that is precisely why I think it's essential.
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GreySatyr
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: birds]
#18718201 - 08/17/13 09:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I asked for your opinion on which psychedelics someone should try. I didn't ask for your opinion on whether or not everyone in the world should try psychedelics. That's off topic opinionated riff raff, I should have been more specific but I think you'd ignore it if I asked you to stay on topic. Which brings me to the second part of your post...I asked you not to repeat any psychedelic that had already been listed in the thread. This doesn't bother me as much and as you can see, everyone is now doing it and I do agree with you, LSD should be the ONE that evrryone should try IF everyone should try any at all but that wasn't question. The question which you are totally ignoring IS..."WHICH psychedelics should a psychedelic USER try at least once?"...that was and still remains the question. The question is NOT, "what ONE psychedelic should EVERYONE in the world try?"
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: GreySatyr]
#18718335 - 08/17/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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DPT; they don't call it the Dipropyl Holy Ghost for nothing.
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: Dark_Star]
#18718354 - 08/17/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, there's a group in New York City that managed to get DPT registered as a sacrament. It's closely related to psilocybin.
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: s240779]
#18718371 - 08/17/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's incredible stuff. Unique, yet familiar, and deeply spiritual. At the right dosage it took me on a healing experience at the level of 1000+ mics of LSD, yet it comes down within a few hours, leaving me able to get some sleep, whereas if I had taken enough LSD to get there, sleep would be out of the question. It also lasted a bit shorter than mushrooms, and while it's an ego-shredder to the max, it doesn't have the emotional splatter that mushrooms do. Thus, it not only took me farther than mushrooms, but it was easier to handle. Once again, I'd get to sleep sooner as well. This made it a perfect psychedelic for me; ego-death, reflection/revelation -> sleep, wake up able to go about my day.
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: Dark_Star]
#18718374 - 08/17/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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AMT is cool try that order it online cheap take like 70-100mg and role with it
-------------------- Hi i recently become interested in mycologist after a good trip on AMT which changed my life, I started Studying mushrooms ins and outs from where they originate from back to the aztecs an mayans. now the hunt begins I live in the UK in liverpool where im not sure if im going to find many if any at all BUT we do have a few fields with horses on and the rain has been bad with the warmth im expecting to see some really early... its june and I think they are going to show up Any guidance any help feel free to email me or ask me questions at davidj156@hotmail.com
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: themushie]
#18718386 - 08/17/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry for linkspam, but I can't imagine tripping any psychedelic without having tried this 1hr+ psytrancemix once: www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQuH2JPjOiY
fun starts at 5:00 and 12:00 etc. , but worth every minute (1hr10mins) it's like the only psytrance mix you need
it will send you into hyperspace :-)
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: GreySatyr]
#18718598 - 08/17/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ketamine. It will take you all the way.
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: GreySatyr]
#18718637 - 08/17/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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2CE. The visuals are better than any other psychedelic I've tried. They blow every other psychedelic out of the water. Plus it's a quality stimulant.
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: nooneman]
#18719450 - 08/17/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fucking goddamn n,n dmt. that stuff is like a psychedelic TO a psychedelic
-------------------- On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky We all need more love, and mainly less hate Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye That makes the heart's eye cry Locked deep away in the skies of our minds It's all in the mind
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: GreySatyr]
#18719491 - 08/17/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Opiated hash Mescaline LSD DMT - vaporized as changa and orally with MAOI Bufotenine 5-Meo-DMT
A little heavy on the tryptamines, but, hey...
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: Nature Boy]
#18719513 - 08/17/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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LSD is very welcoming. I vote for Lucy lol
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: Nature Boy]
#18719518 - 08/17/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Nature Boy said: Opiated hash Mescaline LSD DMT - vaporized as changa and orally with MAOI Bufotenine 5-Meo-DMT
A little heavy on the tryptamines, but, hey...
N.B.
What's your opinion on the 5-meo-dmt? I have some I want to try but I'm a little nervous about it
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Quote:
JacksonMetaller said: What's your opinion on the 5-meo-dmt? I have some I want to try but I'm a little nervous about it
It's fuckin amazing and is definitely a must try for psychonauts. Do it.
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: Nature Boy]
#18719542 - 08/17/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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how does mescaline compare to real LSD? In your opinion sir
quote]Nature Boy said: Opiated hash Mescaline LSD DMT - vaporized as changa and orally with MAOI Bufotenine 5-Meo-DMT
A little heavy on the tryptamines, but, hey...
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Nature Boy said: Opiated hash Mescaline LSD DMT - vaporized as changa and orally with MAOI Bufotenine 5-Meo-DMT
A little heavy on the tryptamines, but, hey...
N.B.
-------------------- On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky We all need more love, and mainly less hate Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye That makes the heart's eye cry Locked deep away in the skies of our minds It's all in the mind
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LSD! nuff said.
P.S. SomeGuyX the fractal vid you made was awesome, i played it over atleast 3 times haha.
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if I may ask---what exactly is DMT like--anything like salvia--ive got my lid flipped a few times on salvia but its not something I would care to do a whole hell of a lot--ive eat acid a couple times--had a lot of fun on that--and some monster doses of shrooms--good times
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#18719590 - 08/17/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've heard it's similar to LSD and mushrooms, leaning towards LSD. This is oral. I think smoking the stuff is kind of silly.
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GreySatyr
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: s240779]
#18719773 - 08/17/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wouldn't make sense for it to be more LSD like considering that its a tryptamine and the harmla or harming or whatever is also a tryptamine.
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#18719792 - 08/17/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mr. Wilson said: if I may ask---what exactly is DMT like--anything like salvia--ive got my lid flipped a few times on salvia but its not something I would care to do a whole hell of a lot--ive eat acid a couple times--had a lot of fun on that--and some monster doses of shrooms--good times
DMT is the most amazing chemical I have ever ingested. By far the most interesting visions and intense euphoria of any psychedelic I've done. Nothing like what people say about salvia
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: GreySatyr]
#18719800 - 08/17/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank god DMT is nothing like salvia. DMT is a true psychedelic. Very visual. Minimal to no "mind-fuckery". Most people love it.
Salvia is an atypical k-opioid dissociative. VERY dysphoric, especially in mid to high dosage range. Many people (most?) hate it.
The ONLY thing they have in common is the brevity of the experience ~ 10 minutes.
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: Nature Boy]
#18719936 - 08/17/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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The people who use Salvia more than once, are people who are really dedicated to psychedelics likely/who like meditating (people who mostly only use psychedelics/various plants)
It's not like datura, I've never regretted smoking salvia, just can't get myself to smoke it often..it has been valuable experience each time - just not pleasant in the beginning
After smoking salvia I always ask myself why I didn't smoke it earlier ;-) instead of waiting ½-1 year to smoke it hehe
Because the experience was nice, and it gives good mood It's usually always nice, with friends or solo (even when the trip is kinda bad in the beginning, it's still nice after the trip, good mood)
It's cheap too $2 per trip or so, and only 10-20x is needed for beginners (wouldn't recommend any extract higher than this, 20x can be dangerous alone in theory)
Salvia is easy to grow as a houseplant, and a beautiful houseplant easy to make your own extract too , only need acetone or smoke the plain leaves/chew them for meditation
If you only want eyecandy without pain, go for DMT Salvia will give you pain sometimes/often in trips, but laying down the pain is minimized it seems ('salvia gravity' ,feels like your skin being peeled off) But I still think it's a valuable psychedelic, it makes you look differently at yourself and the world just like other psychedelics do it seems, I like it, the trip is like a crazy lucid dream
Also Salvia is the strongest psychedelic that plant will redefine your definition of what a psychedelic can do I didn't believe my eyes at first, even though I had taken very high doses of LSD before it LSD was nothing in comparison to the strength of salvia (yet another reason to do it rarely)
Edited by lessismore (08/17/13 06:19 PM)
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lessismore
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: lessismore]
#18719988 - 08/17/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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But one of my friends friends got some salvia 20x, he only used weed before and he loves it and smoked it with a few of his other friends, they liked it too (although one freaked out as he took a too high dose)
he can't get enough of it
it's like most other drugs, each person experience it differently
some like mushrooms,some don't
I love salvia, but I prefer LSD (more pleasant and longer lasting) 
salvia is on par with mushrooms for me, I love them both much both give dark trips too sometimes, LSD never does
I think salvia has been an invaluable experience I wouldn't have been without it's one of my best psychedelic experiences (out of body, going to salvia land), and always laughing for a few mins each trip
Also.. salvia with friends is much more fun than weed with friends often :-) Love that If you want to convert your friends to try psychedelics, salvia would be the easiest for them to try, if they smoked weed before Only good reactions from those I tripped with (0.038g of 20x standardized), and it's great fun sometimes (I always laugh a lot on salvia each time)
Edited by lessismore (08/17/13 06:35 PM)
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: Nature Boy]
#18720081 - 08/17/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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must tries for all human beings:
weed, to serve as a primer for more intense shifts in consciousness, and to chill the fuck out. LSD, to expand your mind and feel connectedness to the universe. MDMA, to experience love, contentment, and euphoria.
additional must tries for psychedelic enthusiasts:
mushrooms (at least an 8th) breakthrough DMT candyflip (LSD + MDMA) mescaline
There are of course lots of other worthwhile substances, combos, and experiences, but I think these are the big ones. with all of them, there is something to be gained from the experience, unlike say an opiate which is simply hedonistic with which you don't gain any insight or connection.
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: GreySatyr]
#18720199 - 08/17/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd love to experience DMT when I get more experienced with psychedelics, but I strongly doubt I'll be able to get my hands on it or perform a successful extraction because DMT appears to be extremely rare where I am located and I don't think I have the chemistry knowledge to perform a successful extraction. However it will be somewhat a long time before I start looking into it further because I want to start from the bottom of psychedelics and gradually work my way up to more intense drugs such as; DMT.
I also plan on doing mescaline soon and plan on purchasing some 12 inch cuttings of the san pedro cactus and cooking it
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: shroomlowie]
#18720273 - 08/17/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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shroomlowie said: and I don't think I have the chemistry knowledge to perform a successful extraction.
Read up on methods of extracting DMT.
Look at The Shroomery and DMT Nexus.
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Re: Psychedelic "Must Tries" [Re: s240779]
#18720302 - 08/17/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Da2ra said:
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shroomlowie said: and I don't think I have the chemistry knowledge to perform a successful extraction.
Read up on methods of extracting DMT.
Look at The Shroomery and DMT Nexus.
Thanks for the advice Da2ra. I know my post makes it sound like its to difficult for me to do, but I won't be trying to "do" it for a while yet. At least a year, so research at the moment isn't too necessary as it could well be forgotten nearer the time I feel ready to experience DMT. I've briefly looked at some teks and without coming across extremely nooby they do look pretty difficult - but that's coming from someone who hasn't really had to do extractions in his life. But when I'm more experienced and find a easy to follow tek I will try the method and see how it pans out.
ps: the dmt-nexus website that you linked is under construction (research & learn) the forum etc is working fine
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