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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: something super extreme]
    #18715933 - 08/16/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I wub you too asshole :datass:hole


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18716787 - 08/16/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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BlindSophist said:
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DeadHearts said:
Got into a debate with a friend yesterday and at one point I just couldn't go on because of the
lack of knowledge on the subject.

Kind of a hot topic these days but does anyone know where I can get some solid info about this? Many
say you must get vaccinated or the entire "heard" is at risk. Many others say getting vaccinated
causes health problems down the road IE autism in children and other things.

Are Big phrama and government just sucking money out of people and or keeping them sick to keep the
cash rolling in. Or SHOULD everyone be gettings these shots for the better good of us all??

Where do I stand? As said above Im not very well versed but you should deff have the choice. I don't
think its the best idea to blind get these shots because some asshats say you should. It is my
understanding that many don't want you to even have the choice and are trying to make it a crime to
deny vaccines to you and especially your children.

:strokebeard:




AFAIK all the evidence is anecdotal, I don't see how trained doctors are "blind asshats" (try going to school to be a doctor and then consider what you are by comparison). You have no idea what big pharma actually does.

Some kids are autistic. Some kids who are autistic got a polio vaccine. So what? That's like accusing somebody of a murder because he was a Yankees fan.

People do have the power to choose for themselves, we also have to live with those walking germ farms so it's natural they get disrespected for their irresponsibility.

It is my understanding that many want many things. For example, many want vaccines to be illegal. And they are the most retarded of all. :sadyes:






-You actually believe that a "Doctor" is not capable of greed or negligence? Misuse of trust?

-Why don't you tell us what the fuck big pharma really does??

"Some kids are autistic. Some kids who are autistic got a polio vaccine. So what? That's like accusing somebody of a murder because he was a Yankees fan."

That's fucking retarded :lol: Talk about SCIENCE!!

"People do have the power to choose for themselves, we also have to live with those walking germ farms so it's natural they get disrespected for their iresponsibility."

I am certainly not left with a feeling of disrespect from anyone concerned with the choices I make
especially when it comes to my distrust of corporations and government. (Do what they say kids. They will keep you safe).



"It is my understanding that many want many things. For example, many want vaccines to be illegal. And they are the most retarded of all. :sadyes:[/"


Many many many manymanymany :yawn:


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #18716797 - 08/16/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know the risks, but I sure as shit don't trust them things.


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #18717001 - 08/16/13 11:29 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Man, I just can't wait until there are enough of you vaccine deniers for eradicated diseases to start eating away at you. This is how natural selection works. :ancientaliens:

Just wait till you get polio and can't walk, I bet you'll blame weather balloons or something. :shake:


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18717005 - 08/16/13 11:30 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I have my faith put into mushrooms to keep me healthy.


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #18717014 - 08/16/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I have my faith put into mushrooms to keep me healthy.




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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: HalluciNate]
    #18717031 - 08/16/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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DeadHearts said:
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•Humans have higher rates of cancer than other species. One reason: Mircrowave ovens.




:rofl2:





I guess someone has to laugh at ur jokes. That was not in the article.



I have a friend who fought brain cancer.

One day I set him aside, and asked him with great sincerity if he had ever stared at his food in the microwave.

To his surprise he did actual remember doing this. Immediately after I informed him to stop.:facepalm:

So IMO it's a great idea to stay away from those machines while they're in use.

It sucks when you're cooking something on the stove top, and someone decides to pop something in the microwave. I can literally sense the radiation, and I can't just walk away from whatever I'm cooking.:sad:



If microwaves were emitting radiation at any level that could possibly cause cancer, they wouldn't be sold or used. This entire paragraph is hogwash. There is absolutely no risk of cancer from using a microwave or even getting cancer from microwaving your food in plastic containers. It is all spice.


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: Shroomerited]
    #18717032 - 08/16/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Shroomopotamus said:
I have my faith put into mushrooms to keep me healthy.




:canthelpbutlaugh:



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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: SoreSpore]
    #18717043 - 08/16/13 11:36 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I've looked at food in my microwave literally hella times and never gotten cancer.

So dude, it's just science that microwaves don't cause cancer. :logic:


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18717071 - 08/16/13 11:42 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

:notsureif:


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: s240779] * 1
    #18717073 - 08/16/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: s240779]
    #18717160 - 08/17/13 12:00 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Da2ra said:
Microwave Cooking, the Hidden Hazards

Microwave Cooking is Killing You!

Microwaving & Irradiation Dangers - A Collection of Articles



LOL

this can't even be serious

from this: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cook6.php
Quote:

They studied the effect that microwaved food had on eight individuals, by taking blood samples immediately after eating. They found that after eating microwaved food, haemoglobin levels decreased. "These results show anaemic tendencies. The situation became even more pronounced during the second month of the study".




Try a credible source like Harvard's medical journal.

http://www.health.harvard.edu/healthbeat/HEALTHbeat_081606.htm


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: SoreSpore]
    #18717171 - 08/17/13 12:04 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

That link only addresses "Microwaving food in plastic." Does not address the effects on blood or anything else.


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: s240779]
    #18717199 - 08/17/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Can you provide me more information on the subject other than from www.healingnaturallybybee.com? Links to actual case studies or publicized and reviewed publications?


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: SoreSpore]
    #18717218 - 08/17/13 12:27 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

No. Sites like that are good enough for me in some cases because I'm content to err on the side of caution.

For all you know, something is fully academically justifiable, but you don't have the time to dig the stuff up, so why not just err on the side of caution?

Also, someone told me that he's prepared steaks by putting them in the microwave for an extended period of time. He told me they taste very bad. I see that as a matter of concern. But I guess taste isn't technical enough for you.


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #18717365 - 08/17/13 01:28 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I like watching idiots get Flu shots every fall.
Then they almost without fail, get sicker than the
people who avoided the shots.

You would think after a few years of that. The
idiots who we're all getting sick would not fall
into the "Without This NEW and IMPROVED VACCINE"
your going to get sick or die propaganda by the
Billionaire Drug Companies.

People should wise up and ask the
Drug Company CEO's to take their
own shots on Television.

I'll give you 20:1 odds that the CEO's
don't let their kids get the shots nor
take them either.


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: spore baby]
    #18717430 - 08/17/13 01:55 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I have, so far, delayed vaccinating my kid.  We have a family history of reactions to vaccines and that makes me not want to risk it.


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #18717432 - 08/17/13 01:55 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not gonna read the 5 pages of replies, just gonna post my own thoughts.


I've never been vaccinated and I see no fucking point. I've gotten the flu a few times in my life, not that big of a deal, really. You eat some fucking chicken noodle soup and lay on the couch for a week at most. :shrug:


The whole, 'it harms everyone' thing is just stupid. You don't wanna get sick, get the vaccination. You get the vaccine and I don't, you're not gonna get sick, BECAUSE YOU GOT THE VACCINE... in no way does me not getting your stupid vaccine do any bit of harm to you.


I don't know if it causes autism or aids or w/e the fuck people want to say, I don't care either because I'm not gonna shoot myself up with some magic vaccine the government hands out
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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: ganjfather] * 1
    #18717588 - 08/17/13 03:11 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

LOL, this fuckin thread...
Microwaves give you cancer and vaccines make you retarded :rofl:
Holy fuck, this is just wow. If drugs make you this paranoid then you shouldn't be doing drugs.
Or reproducing...


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: s240779]
    #18717961 - 08/17/13 07:20 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2595/does-microwaving-kill-nutrients-in-food-is-microwaving-safe


Does microwaving kill nutrients in food? Is microwaving safe?

May 6, 2005


Dear Cecil:

We have friends who insist they won't eat microwave-cooked items and refuse to own a microwave oven, claiming it has deleterious effects on the nutritional value of food. I chuckle over their sensitivity--seems most restaurants today serve many items that are cooked rapidly using microwaves, so I'll bet our friends eat some of these foods unknowingly. My wife, however, is becoming alarmed over their queer beliefs. Please give her peace of mind. Are our friends' fears groundless, or am I the goat on this one?

— Norm, via e-mail


Probably your friends are getting worked up over nothing, but this is one subject where you want to resist sweeping pronouncements. On its face, antimicrowave propaganda (you'll find loads of it on the Web) is none too persuasive--some of these people have yet to comprehend the crucial distinction between ionizing and nonionizing radiation. (Ionizing radiation is the nuclear, i.e., dangerous, kind, which includes X rays, gamma rays, etc; nonionizing is everything else, e.g., microwaves, not to mention light.) When you dig into the research, though, you realize the controversy isn't all hooey. On the contrary, what we've got here is one of the great coal-mine fires of science--an argument that, in this case, has been smoldering for 50 years without resolution. Unexpected recent developments, though, make me think we may get to the bottom of this pup yet.

The central issue is whether there's such a thing as a "microwave effect"--that is, whether microwaves do anything that conventional heating methods don't. The main way microwaves heat up a plate of leftovers is by causing the food molecules to vibrate--an accelerated version of what ordinary cooking does. The microwave effect, if it exists, is more mysterious and potentially a lot scarier. For example, some conjecture that certain frequencies of microwave radiation can resonate with food, body tissues, and whatnot. Just as a low-power radio wave reaching a tuned-in boom box can rattle windows, a seemingly innocuous beam of microwave energy striking a harmonically attuned target may have disruptive effects. Microwave ovens aren't the only or necessarily the most urgent cause for alarm, either. Another significant source of microwaves, admittedly of a different frequency, is the ubiquitous cell phone, which people hold for extended periods to their ears, only a few centimeters from their brains.

The mainstream response to fear of microwaves is generally: You're on crack. For years the common view among scientists has been that the microwave effect is a myth and that whatever happens in a microwave oven happens because stuff gets hot. But disquieting indications to the contrary persistently come to light. For instance, in a paper often cited by microwave foes, doctors at Stanford University (Quan et al, 1992) reported that microwaving frozen breast milk sharply reduced the potency of the natural infection-fighting agents it contained. "The adverse effects . . . are difficult to explain on the basis of hyperthermia [high heat] alone," they wrote.

Yeah, sure, whatever. But now that attitude may be shifting, in part because of that unexpected development I was telling you about: microwave ovens' finding their way out of the kitchen and into the laboratory. Scientists have long used microwave ovens to heat up their coffee just like everybody else, but in the late 1980s they came to a startling realization: The ovens could greatly accelerate useful chemical reactions, sometimes by a factor of a thousand. Processes that once took hours, days, or months could be completed in minutes, often without the toxic solvents previously required. Initially researchers used consumer-model ovens they bought at the appliance store, but soon realized what chicken potpie lovers had known for years, namely that an ordinary microwave oven is not a precision instrument and often gives unpredictable results. With burgeoning interest in "microwave chemistry" and a corresponding push to improve microwave hardware, a few big heads conceded that maybe it was time to inquire more deeply into how these things actually worked. The matter has yet to be fully elucidated, but already some think the microwave effect may not be a myth after all: "One suggestion," a bunch of chemists wrote recently, "is that this is some form of 'ponderomotive' driving force that arises when high frequency electric fields modulate ionic currents near interfaces with abrupt differences in ion mobility."

You'll excuse me if I don't translate. My point is, a lot more people who can say "ponderomotive" without blinking are now burning up the dendrites trying to figure out what microwaves do, a necessary first step in determining whether that's good or bad for those less interested in ionic currents than lunch. Granted, none of this resolves your question, mainly because we still don't have enough info to answer it with anything other than paranoid speculation or empty reassurance. But at least there's the prospect that someday we will.

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