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OfflineJahLambsbread
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Need pin in Spore Print?
    #18716208 - 08/16/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Do you need to put pins in the cap of the mushroom when making a spore print?

I just cut the caps without using thumbtacks. Does that make a difference?


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Re: Need pin in Spore Print? [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #18716218 - 08/16/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

lay flat on foil, turn foil over cap.

place somthing like a towel over it if you like, or a glass or jar

where did you read this thumb tac stuff ?


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Re: Need pin in Spore Print? [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #18716223 - 08/16/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i honest to god have never heard of using a thumb tac... where did you hear that?


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Re: Need pin in Spore Print? [Re: Chastity Psilocybe]
    #18716238 - 08/16/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Chastity Psilocybe said:
i honest to god have never heard of using a thumb tac... where did you hear that?



Me either. Amazing.


Just lay it on foil. Gills down.


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Re: Need pin in Spore Print? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #18716272 - 08/16/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

He's probably referring to many guides that tell you to stick a pin in the cap for ease of grabbing once cut.


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Re: Need pin in Spore Print? [Re: maddchef]
    #18716297 - 08/16/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

seen this tek with a circle of foil in bottom of jar.

bolt thru the lid with several caps attached dropping spores a few inches down to the foil.

seems like more work than needed IMO


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Re: Need pin in Spore Print? [Re: SpencerPhillips]
    #18718075 - 08/17/13 08:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

What do you mean turn foil over cap?  Is that so the gills completely touch the foil?

The caps are not flat on the bottom so they are not completely on the foil


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Re: Need pin in Spore Print? [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #18718082 - 08/17/13 08:13 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I print all my caps with a thumb tack through the top. So much easier to manipulate.

I don't push it through the foil though, just the top of the cap.

I cover them with jars so they don't dry up.

You'll get nice, dark spore prints if the cap can muster them.


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Re: Need pin in Spore Print? [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #18718103 - 08/17/13 08:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Should I use tin foil? I have seen some people use white paper. And can you make a spore syringe from a spore print that was from tinfoil?


The pf tek says to just print it on the bottom of a half pint jar.


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Re: Need pin in Spore Print? [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #18718105 - 08/17/13 08:23 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

What if I just brush the spores from the foil into a half pint jar. Won't that still work?


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Re: Need pin in Spore Print? [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #18718108 - 08/17/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The PF tek is ancient :lol:

Foil is manufactured at extremely high temps and is effectively sterile on the roll.

Put the foil in your SAB, tear off a foot or so and discard it. Then tear off another strip, print on that, it will be a nice clean surface for the spores to land on.

Foil is very easy to work with. You can certainly use them to make syringes.

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JahLambsbread said:
What if I just brush the spores from the foil into a half pint jar. Won't that still work?




What?

I would just put the cap face down on foil as described above. Why do you want it in a jar?


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Re: Need pin in Spore Print? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18718411 - 08/17/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I think he's saying to inoculate straight from the print, right? I guess its possible, but your better off hydrating the spores in a syringe. It's not too hard to do this, and you can get syringe's at your local tractor supply stores for cheap, like .70 cent a piece!!!


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Re: Need pin in Spore Print? [Re: ShamanShroomer]
    #18718499 - 08/17/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I think he's saying to inoculate straight from the print, right? I guess its possible, but your better off hydrating the spores in a syringe. It's not too hard to do this, and you can get syringe's at your local tractor supply stores for cheap, like .70 cent a piece!!!




Oh, good catch, I thought he was saying he wanted to store the spores in the jar, not inoculate cakes with them.

Certainly there are good reasons to make a spore syringe, esp if OP is looking to do inoculations direct to grains or cakes. It is much easier to do this with solution than trying to scrape spores into a jar.

As for the statment about dry spores though...

Syringes are prone to bacteria if they sit around too long, this is another reason I urge people to avoid it where possible.

Not only that, most cube prints I've received (quite a lot :lol: ) are hydrated enough to germinate just fine.

When I have an issue with dry spores not germinating, I simply take a drop of sterile water from a small syringe and place it on the agar, then swipe my spores into that.  This has worked for me without fail with my azure spores, galindois, and allenii...never needed it for a cube though.


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Re: Need pin in Spore Print? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18719150 - 08/17/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Syringes are prone to bacteria if they sit around too long, this is another reason I urge people to avoid it where possible.






So, I boiled water and added to a syringe about 3 months ago. No spores in yet.
Would you prepare new water before making a spore syringe, because of bacteria?
I was just about to clean out my glovebox before I read this.

However, RR says the best way to store spores is in a syringe rather than on foil.
He has stated that they'll last longer this way.
Why isn't he bothered with the syringe picking up bacteria from just laying around?


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Re: Need pin in Spore Print? [Re: spacechildo]
    #18719168 - 08/17/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I can't speak for RR but as far as my prints...

They are dried for 72 hours in the SAB before folding and sealing.

Personally I have lost many more syringes than prints to time :shrug:

You can easily rehydrate dry spores but a heavily bacteria laden syringe is toast.


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Re: Need pin in Spore Print? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18719200 - 08/17/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I can't speak for RR but as far as my prints...

They are dried for 72 hours in the SAB before folding and sealing.

Personally I have lost many more syringes than prints to time :shrug:

You can easily rehydrate dry spores but a heavily bacteria laden syringe is toast.




So to read between the lines, you'd boil more water and start the process over again?
I've been messing with g2g, so haven't gotten around to filling the syringe with spores yet.
Started freakin out a bit yesterday because my rye looks so dry, never tried rye before.
Need a new project in case of major d'oh!

The syringe has been 3 months in a too small zip-lock, so some of the pump have been stickin out of the zip-lock.
Zip-locks aren't airtight anyway, so kinnda thought it wasn't that big of a deal.


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Re: Need pin in Spore Print? [Re: spacechildo]
    #18719627 - 08/17/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Oh shit, I'm sorry I missed your question.

I would squirt out the old water and just boil some new :thumbup:


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