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sVs said: That could be said for many people posting in here.
Truth.
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sVs said: Why would anyone be offended over an insult directed at a gas?
You'd be surprised, oilheads get very emotionally invested in their extraction solvent of choice. 
I was starting to kind of agree with OP with it being crazy strong. But then someone said hash and yeah, thats been around for as long as the flowers so i dont think its really a big deal
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Re: Dabs- making weed a harder drug [Re: greenspectral]
#18714340 - 08/16/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I live in Michigan, and we are a Medical state, and they just recently outlawed Wax and Concentrates. Too many people were blowing themselves up trying to extract it. They even created a new police code for it, similar to when someone blows their house up cooking meth.
Here is where I stand on concentrates.
I am a Medical Patient, and began using wax about a year ago. I went fully to that, and stopped smoking flowers. My tolerance went through the roof, and I had to continue to smoke more and more wax, until I was smoking about a gram a day.
I ended up saturating my body with too much THC, and it shut down my digestive track. I'm all for concentrates being used medicinally, by the cancer patients that actually need it. But people my age (early to mid 20's) really don't need to be smoking wax.
Also, in no way can you compare it to opiates. It is a totally different high, and they both last different amounts of time. Once again, it all comes down to your personal tolerance to it. But if you tolerance is so high that your smoking tons of wax to get high, as I was, you might want to reconsider your usage. Shit can get dangerous real quick.
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Re: Dabs- making weed a harder drug [Re: pwnasaurus]
#18714344 - 08/16/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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learning sponge said: i somewhat agree OP.fuck butane no offense
Could you elaborate? It sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about.
i don't like spraying high pressured butane through like a quarter of perfectly good top shelf to get oil and then have to buy a rig,my nail is better than thou,expensive torch,ect..im a discreet toker i pefrer my js and sneak a tokes of top shelf flavor
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Re: Dabs- making weed a harder drug [Re: Herbologist]
#18714346 - 08/16/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's not so much about the oil itself, you could use water hash that way but it's just easier to use butane. It's about the rig and the flame.
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My only complaints about wax are the price and need for extra smoking devices.
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Re: Dabs- making weed a harder drug [Re: Doctor Sponge]
#18714409 - 08/16/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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learning sponge said:
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learning sponge said: i somewhat agree OP.fuck butane no offense
Could you elaborate? It sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about.
i don't like spraying high pressured butane through like a quarter of perfectly good top shelf to get oil and then have to buy a rig,my nail is better than thou,expensive torch,ect..im a discreet toker i pefrer my js and sneak a tokes of top shelf flavor
So really it has nothing to do with butane at all and you simply don't like smoking oil.
Try using proper English next time, it's much easier to get your point across.
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Re: Dabs- making weed a harder drug [Re: pwnasaurus]
#18714631 - 08/16/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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yea that dab shit is a little too intense sometimes, we were dabbing it in my friends garage one time and my buddy took a hit and straight fell asleep leaning against a car within a few seconds.
then i was following him home and he fell asleep at the light -__-
ive only done it like 5 times but i prefer bud
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Re: Dabs- making weed a harder drug [Re: withoutawire]
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Re: Dabs- making weed a harder drug [Re: withoutawire]
#18714694 - 08/16/13 01:23 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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withoutawire said: it's weed-crack man. Just like how cocaine went from party drug/chewing coca leaves to straight up crack addiction.
Uh... I believe crack is actually less addictive than alcohol... something like 10% addiction rate? And it's not as if people never got addicted to powder.
Seriously.
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Re: Dabs- making weed a harder drug [Re: Synthe]
#18714702 - 08/16/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm guessing it has to do with availability.
Also, crack fucking sucks.
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Re: Dabs- making weed a harder drug [Re: HeyImShroomy]
#18714707 - 08/16/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I ended up saturating my body with too much THC, and it shut down my digestive track.
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BlindSophist said: I'm guessing it has to do with availability.
Also, crack fucking sucks. 
All I mean is, it's kinda unfair to say "oh, okay, yeah I'd totally do some blow, but crack? Ew but it's CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK! It's so CRACK-ey! No!"
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Re: Dabs- making weed a harder drug [Re: Synthe]
#18714715 - 08/16/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Have you ever tried crack? They're completely different drugs in how they hit and feel. Crack lasts about two minutes, coke more like half an hour. Honestly, I tried crack a few weeks ago and I couldn't even tell if I could feel it at all but I still wanted to hit it again.
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Re: Dabs- making weed a harder drug [Re: Synthe]
#18714754 - 08/16/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I ended up saturating my body with too much THC, and it shut down my digestive track.
No shit? 
No shit! In the last 6 months, I've been to the ER over a dozen times for severe malnutrition and dehydration, from not being able to keep anything down. I've dropped 30 pounds, to an unhealthy 120 pounds (I'm 5'9"). Let's just say I learned my lesson from abusing pot. Now I stick to the flower power, and in moderation.
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Re: Dabs- making weed a harder drug [Re: Synthe]
#18714755 - 08/16/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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withoutawire said: it's weed-crack man. Just like how cocaine went from party drug/chewing coca leaves to straight up crack addiction.
Uh... I believe crack is actually less addictive than alcohol... something like 10% addiction rate? And it's not as if people never got addicted to powder.
Seriously.
You are missing my point. I am merely giving you examples in history where addiction rates went up and their were social implications and consequences from a drug becoming much more potent as well as the cultural changes that came with that increase in potency.
Beer/wine/cider to liquor where pubs and public drunkenness + higher rates alcoholism
Coca leaves used like coffee-cocaine with partying and shady behavior- crack and all the social issues and violence that occurred with the emergence of a new delivery system for cocaine usage. The appearance of crack houses popping up everywhere and crime associated with crack heads and sharp increase in violence among cocaine using populations from powder cocaine partying to crack house crack smoking.
My prediction is with dabs we are going to see a group of people who live in their parent's house (basement included) their adult lives as pot heads who socially isolate. The extreme version of pot heads now who spend their lives dedicated to toking. That small group of unmotivated stoners is going to grow and dabs are going to be the delivery system+high quality medical marijuana concentrates that are 40%-50%+
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Re: Dabs- making weed a harder drug [Re: withoutawire]
#18714805 - 08/16/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I actually wouldn't be surprised if you were right, waw.
When I first tried a dab the first thing I noticed is that it's not your grandpa's hash. If you go too big, a single hit can completely incapacitate somebody without a mean tolerance. It's fun, but not an everyday thing. I actually have known somebody who fits your description of a dab addict. He would have withdrawals and shit when he didn't dab (couldn't get out of bed) and when he dabbed, he would intentionally inhale so much that he'd cough to the point of puking. Man, that was gross. I told him he might want to reassess his habits but it's like telling an alcy to stop drinking, according to him it's already too late.
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BlindSophist said: I actually wouldn't be surprised if you were right, waw.
When I first tried a dab the first thing I noticed is that it's not your grandpa's hash. If you go too big, a single hit can completely incapacitate somebody without a mean tolerance. It's fun, but not an everyday thing. I actually have known somebody who fits your description of a dab addict. He would have withdrawals and shit when he didn't smoke (couldn't get out of bed) and when he dabbed, he would intentionally inhale so much that he'd cough to the point of puking. Man, that was gross. I told him he might want to reassess his habits but it's like telling an alcy to stop drinking, according to him it's already too late.
That's really unfortunate. That's essentially the boat I was in before it nearly killed me. I hope your friend gets their habits under control before it effects their health like it did mine.
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Re: Dabs- making weed a harder drug [Re: withoutawire]
#18714820 - 08/16/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm not sure your premise is true. I'm positive there were problems with drunkenness even in ancient greece or rome where all they drank was wine. Are you sure the problems associated with crack are because of the concentration percentage of the drug, and not, say, the socioeconomic factors involved with selling something for as high a price as possible to people in poverty?
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