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Offlinegulper2323
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Is it possible to win a YouTube copyright dispute?
    #18714731 - 08/16/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I uploaded two Grateful Dead songs to my YouTube account yesturday. Today I've been given a notice that the songs used may be owned by a third party and I've been given a choice to either acknowledge or dispute these claims.

Now the frist video is a live performance and has never appeared on an album and the copyright is for a different version of that song. The second video is an audience recording which the remainder of the band aprove of downloading for free but a soundboard recording of this song did appear on an album (Dick's Picks Vol. 14), so I don't know about this one :shrug:.

So anyway my question is if I try to dispute those claims will my dispute be acknowledged, will it go ignored, or will YouTube give me bigger problems to deal with for trying to dispute these claims? Also I've never tried to dispute copyright claims for a YouTube video before so what type of process am I like to go through to dispute these claims?



(Don't be given me hate because you don't like the music, I'm not interested in talking about the music, my interest is in trying to get rid of the copyright claims)


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Re: Is it possible to win a YouTube copyright dispute? [Re: gulper2323]
    #18716327 - 08/16/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I think you'd be right on the crowd mic, but I don't know about the alternate version.

How much time do you have on your hands? I'd love to see the result.

Good luck man, I love me some dead :laugh:


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Re: Is it possible to win a YouTube copyright dispute? [Re: gulper2323]
    #18716362 - 08/16/13 08:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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gulper2323 said:
I uploaded two Grateful Dead songs to my YouTube account yesturday. Today I've been given a notice that the songs used may be owned by a third party and I've been given a choice to either acknowledge or dispute these claims.

Now the frist video is a live performance and has never appeared on an album and the copyright is for a different version of that song. The second video is an audience recording which the remainder of the band aprove of downloading for free but a soundboard recording of this song did appear on an album (Dick's Picks Vol. 14), so I don't know about this one :shrug:.

So anyway my question is if I try to dispute those claims will my dispute be acknowledged, will it go ignored, or will YouTube give me bigger problems to deal with for trying to dispute these claims? Also I've never tried to dispute copyright claims for a YouTube video before so what type of process am I like to go through to dispute these claims?



(Don't be given me hate because you don't like the music, I'm not interested in talking about the music, my interest is in trying to get rid of the copyright claims)





As long as you don't intend on making any money on it there shouldn't be any problem.

I've gotten a few of those warnings, my video's are still up.

The companies don't seek to sue the people putting stuff on youtube, they seek to sue youtube; which is why youtube gives warnings; thus washing their hands of any liability.


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Re: Is it possible to win a YouTube copyright dispute? [Re: Mycelium-yum]
    #18716404 - 08/16/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Live performances are automatically under copyright when they are played.  If it's a video, the videographer would have at minimum a partial copyright on that material even if the band allows distribution of that show on audio for free.  If it's a live audio only performance and the band allows taping and it's a tape, you're in the clear.  The "version" is irrelevant as at the moment it's played, it's under copyright.

I would think the remastered version on Dick's Picks would be under copyright as a specially protected version of a recording although that strikes me as more of a gray area.

It's an audio tape, you're good.  The band has waived their copyright here by encouraging live taping of their shows.


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Re: Is it possible to win a YouTube copyright dispute? [Re: All We Perceive]
    #18716559 - 08/16/13 09:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I disputed one that I legitimately had no right using. I wrote some funny bullshit on the dispute form and the song got put back up. I think you can dispute and say anything and it'll work.


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Re: Is it possible to win a YouTube copyright dispute? [Re: bryguy27007]
    #18718080 - 08/17/13 08:13 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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All We Perceive said:
It's an audio tape, you're good.  The band has waived their copyright here by encouraging live taping of their shows.



That's good so my audience tape is in the clear. I wouldn't of cared about the copyrights if it wasn't for the fact that the copyright made the video with the audience tape unavailable for phones (the other one could be played on my phone for some reason).

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I disputed one that I legitimately had no right using. I wrote some funny bullshit on the dispute form and the song got put back up. I think you can dispute and say anything and it'll work.



Nice :super:. I was concerned that they were going to take some privileges away for trying to dispute a claim if I didn't have much of a case.


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