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InvisibleDeadHearts

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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #18714577 - 08/16/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Im not sure enough studies are being done on the subject across the board. Its really hard to
find non biased info on this shit.

Im still not seeing proof that if we stop vaccinating the number of outbreaks will rise.
There will always be outbreaks and more likely from a mutant strain of something that we cannot
predict thus rendering certain vaccines useless.


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #18714610 - 08/16/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

More food for thought. Should start at the 39 min mark.....




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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #18714636 - 08/16/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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DeadHearts said:
Im not sure enough studies are being done on the subject across the board. Its really hard to
find non biased info on this shit.

Im still not seeing proof that if we stop vaccinating the number of outbreaks will rise.
There will always be outbreaks and more likely from a mutant strain of something that we cannot
predict thus rendering certain vaccines useless.




Dang it DeadHearts! I wanted to rate you for 1. Having an open mind on this subject and 2. For also living in the Mitten. If you are every around K-Zoo, feel free to hit a fellow shroomerite up!


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: NWlight] * 1
    #18714643 - 08/16/13 01:11 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Having seen a child have a sever reaction to a vaccine first hand I will never be convinced that they are completely safe. That being said, unwavering talking points on both side of the argument frustrate me.

Yes vaccines can cause some scary reactions, including Guillain–Barré syndrome which if you are not familiar with you should look it up. On the other hand, getting any one of the illnesses we vaccinate can be just as tragic as the rare negative reaction to a vaccine.

I think the choice to vaccinate yourself or your children should always be a personal decision, but you should be well informed and make your decision after carefully weighing what you are risking going with either option.

You can check out VAERS to see all the reported reactions to vaccines.

http://vaers.hhs.gov/index

Make informed decisions, and don't blindly believe either side of the argument because there is risk on both sides of the fence. They are not perfectly safe or pure evil and ultimately you are responsible for the consequences of your decision on your family.


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: WordSoup]
    #18714656 - 08/16/13 01:14 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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WordSoup said:
Having seen a child have a sever reaction to a vaccine first hand I will never be convinced that they are completely safe. That being said, unwavering talking points on both side of the argument frustrate me.

Yes vaccines can cause some scary reactions, including Guillain–Barré syndrome which if you are not familiar with you should look it up. On the other hand, getting any one of the illnesses we vaccinate can be just as tragic as the rare negative reaction to a vaccine.

I think the choice to vaccinate yourself or your children should always be a personal decision, but you should be well informed and make your decision after carefully weighing what you are risking going with either option.

You can check out VAERS to see all the reported reactions to vaccines.

http://vaers.hhs.gov/index

Make informed decisions, and don't blindly believe either side of the argument because there is risk on both sides of the fence. They are not perfectly safe or pure evil and ultimately you are responsible for the consequences of your decision on your family.





Wise words from one of our newer members! Glad to have you here WordSoup. Good perspective you've got yourself there!


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #18714663 - 08/16/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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DeadHearts said:
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HalluciNate said:
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DeadHearts said:

•Humans have higher rates of cancer than other species. One reason: Mircrowave ovens.




:rofl2:





I guess someone has to laugh at ur jokes. That was not in the article.



I have a friend who fought brain cancer.

One day I set him aside, and asked him with great sincerity if he had ever stared at his food in the microwave.

To his surprise he did actual remember doing this. Immediately after I informed him to stop.:facepalm:

So IMO it's a great idea to stay away from those machines while they're in use.

It sucks when you're cooking something on the stove top, and someone decides to pop something in the microwave. I can literally sense the radiation, and I can't just walk away from whatever I'm cooking.:sad:

Spirulina & Chlorella are some great supplements to protect against damage from radiation. Melatonin aswell, but I cannot find mine.

I found the useful information above in the Magic Keys thread.


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: HalluciNate]
    #18714680 - 08/16/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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HalluciNate said:
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DeadHearts said:
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HalluciNate said:
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DeadHearts said:

•Humans have higher rates of cancer than other species. One reason: Mircrowave ovens.




:rofl2:





I guess someone has to laugh at ur jokes. That was not in the article.



I have a friend who fought brain cancer.

One day I set him aside, and asked him with great sincerity if he had ever stared at his food in the microwave.

To his surprise he did actual remember doing this. Immediately after I informed him to stop.:facepalm:

So IMO it's a great idea to stay away from those machines while they're in use.

It sucks when you're cooking something on the stove top, and someone decides to pop something in the microwave. I can literally sense the radiation, and I can't just walk away from whatever I'm cooking.:sad:

Spirulina & Chlorella are some great supplements to protect against damage from radiation. Melatonin aswell, but I cannot find mine.

I found the useful information above in the Magic Keys thread.




I know a guy who had to have both balls removed because he developed testicular cancer from climbing a radio tower (without proper equipment and protection). He thought it would be fun to climb it and get an awesome view, but it turns out that all those radiowaves our phones send out caused a mutation in his junk.

Gotta watch out for that radiation!


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InvisibleDeadHearts

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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: HalluciNate]
    #18714695 - 08/16/13 01:23 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Its just so interesting to me that this great grand product is so great that the people that
refuse it are just too stupid to notice HOW GREAT IT IS rather than notice the harm it can also cause.

I wish I got paid to study this shit.


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: NWlight]
    #18714701 - 08/16/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

NWlight said:
People who don't get vaccinated are mooching off the immunity of the rest of society.

There are some very UNLIKELY risks associated with vaccines, and some throughout history more than others.


Not vaccinating your children is honestly disgusting to me as it shows little regard for their well-being.  the safety and effectiveness of vaccines is beyond proven it is medical fact, period, the end.




Yeah it's just as bad as parents not taking their kids to the doctor because they don't think it's needed. I bet 90% of the board is vaccinated atleast. Question, are you guys suffering? Do you guys have illnesses that over half the population would get in the days before vaccines?


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #18714716 - 08/16/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I got a vaccination a few months ago and then I started getting coldshakes. Pretty freaky.


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: Distorted Vision]
    #18714728 - 08/16/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Distorted Vision said:
Quote:

NWlight said:
People who don't get vaccinated are mooching off the immunity of the rest of society.

There are some very UNLIKELY risks associated with vaccines, and some throughout history more than others.


Not vaccinating your children is honestly disgusting to me as it shows little regard for their well-being.  the safety and effectiveness of vaccines is beyond proven it is medical fact, period, the end.




Yeah it's just as bad as parents not taking their kids to the doctor because they don't think it's needed. I bet 90% of the board is vaccinated atleast. Question, are you guys suffering? Do you guys have illnesses that over half the population would get in the days before vaccines?




Im not vaccinated. Im fine. Guess Im just mooching off you all. How convenient.


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: Distorted Vision] * 1
    #18714761 - 08/16/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Distorted Vision said:
Quote:

NWlight said:
People who don't get vaccinated are mooching off the immunity of the rest of society.

There are some very UNLIKELY risks associated with vaccines, and some throughout history more than others.


Not vaccinating your children is honestly disgusting to me as it shows little regard for their well-being.  the safety and effectiveness of vaccines is beyond proven it is medical fact, period, the end.




Yeah it's just as bad as parents not taking their kids to the doctor because they don't think it's needed. I bet 90% of the board is vaccinated atleast. Question, are you guys suffering? Do you guys have illnesses that over half the population would get in the days before vaccines?




I think many people do drag their kids to the doctors way to much for things that don't actually require professional medical intervention.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely don't agree with people who won't take their child to the doctor for anything even when they really need to see a competent medical professional, but so many parents I meet don't even know how to deal with basic sickness and think their kid is going to die because they caught a cold. My kid's pediatrician agrees with this view.

If you are going to have children, then learn how to clean a cut and break a fever sheesh.


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: WordSoup]
    #18714765 - 08/16/13 01:38 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

WordSoup said:
Quote:

Distorted Vision said:
Quote:

NWlight said:
People who don't get vaccinated are mooching off the immunity of the rest of society.

There are some very UNLIKELY risks associated with vaccines, and some throughout history more than others.


Not vaccinating your children is honestly disgusting to me as it shows little regard for their well-being.  the safety and effectiveness of vaccines is beyond proven it is medical fact, period, the end.




Yeah it's just as bad as parents not taking their kids to the doctor because they don't think it's needed. I bet 90% of the board is vaccinated atleast. Question, are you guys suffering? Do you guys have illnesses that over half the population would get in the days before vaccines?




I think many people do drag their kids to the doctors way to much for things that don't actually require professional medical intervention.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely don't agree with people who won't take their child to the doctor for anything even when they really need to see a competent medical professional, but so many parents I meet don't even know how to deal with basic sickness and think their kid is going to die because they caught a cold. My kid's pediatrician agrees with this view.

If you are going to have children, then learn how to clean a cut and break a fever sheesh.





Bingo.


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: WordSoup]
    #18714767 - 08/16/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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WordSoup said:
Quote:

Distorted Vision said:
Quote:

NWlight said:
People who don't get vaccinated are mooching off the immunity of the rest of society.

There are some very UNLIKELY risks associated with vaccines, and some throughout history more than others.


Not vaccinating your children is honestly disgusting to me as it shows little regard for their well-being.  the safety and effectiveness of vaccines is beyond proven it is medical fact, period, the end.




Yeah it's just as bad as parents not taking their kids to the doctor because they don't think it's needed. I bet 90% of the board is vaccinated atleast. Question, are you guys suffering? Do you guys have illnesses that over half the population would get in the days before vaccines?




I think many people do drag their kids to the doctors way to much for things that don't actually require professional medical intervention.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely don't agree with people who won't take their child to the doctor for anything even when they really need to see a competent medical professional, but so many parents I meet don't even know how to deal with basic sickness and think their kid is going to die because they caught a cold. My kid's pediatrician agrees with this view.

If you are going to have children, then learn how to clean a cut and break a fever sheesh.





:whathesaid:


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #18714775 - 08/16/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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DeadHearts said:
More food for thought. Should start at the 39 min mark.....






watched from 39 to the end.


at 1:08:15 at the top of her summary slide:

"polio in the 1800s to 1950s was not just a single viral illness, therefore a vaccine could not have eliminated it"
this is the point she was making during the majority of the video.

check the dates on my graph I posted again.




You wisely picked a very controversial issue: polio.

Check the graphs for every virus we have created a vaccine for, however, and you will see the same immediate and drastic decline directly after the invention and implementation of the vaccine


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #18714881 - 08/16/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Dont get shots for pussy shit like the flu, your immune system will be lazier than you are.





I don't think you know what shots are.


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: HeyImShroomy]
    #18714886 - 08/16/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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HeyImShroomy said:


I know a guy who had to have both balls removed because he developed testicular cancer from climbing a radio tower (without proper equipment and protection). He thought it would be fun to climb it and get an awesome view, but it turns out that all those radiowaves our phones send out caused a mutation in his junk.

Gotta watch out for that radiation!




Yeah that didn't happen.


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: Shroomerited] * 1
    #18714892 - 08/16/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

If you are going to quote all the BS in this thread one post at a time it'll take a few pages so you may want to hold off :ilold:


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: NWlight]
    #18714901 - 08/16/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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NWlight said:
If you are going to quote all the BS in this thread one post at a time it'll take a few pages so you may want to hold off :ilold:



:pipesmoke:


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Re: The risks of getting vaccinated?? [Re: Shroomerited]
    #18715039 - 08/16/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Shroomerited said:
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HeyImShroomy said:


I know a guy who had to have both balls removed because he developed testicular cancer from climbing a radio tower (without proper equipment and protection). He thought it would be fun to climb it and get an awesome view, but it turns out that all those radiowaves our phones send out caused a mutation in his junk.

Gotta watch out for that radiation!




Yeah that didn't happen.




Why so much hate on the shroomery today? God forbid people have experiences and opinions of their own! Do me a solid, climb a cell phone tower, and go get yourself checked for cancer. We can make a study out of it!


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