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Re: My meeting with God and his messages, about the secrets of life. [Re: Cosmicjoker]
    #18718974 - 08/17/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

To change the world change oneself always :smile:

God is in every living creature
God is love and perfection

Suffering is self created

But it takes lots of experience to see it like that
Lots of suffering too

One can chose non acceptance or acceptance

Acceptance is without suffering


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Re: My meeting with God and his messages, about the secrets of life. [Re: Cosmicjoker]
    #18719062 - 08/17/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Cosmicjoker said:
Why is there suffering? Because we can only move fast as we all can move... We are all one being, a wholeness that includes all the souls, all the beings experiencing whatever... and thus we can only move so fast because the oneness includes everything... And thus God is good, doing the best it can, to remove all the suffering from all beings... and have all beings rest forever in the peace of nirvana. But it can only move so fast, because it includes ALL of it... we can only move as fast as we all can move... So there is nothing left to do, except be here now and be part of this awakening process always taking place... We as egos, got to get out of the way, of the awakening process... and it can only move so fast... and that stinks, for beings going through suffering... it really stinks. But is suffering over the suffering going to help? No. Find bliss, find your flow of service, find your nirvana here now as best you can... with each breath.




Sounds like a weak God.  Poor little guy.


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Re: My meeting with God and his messages, about the secrets of life. [Re: lessismore]
    #18719069 - 08/17/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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mio said:
To change the world change oneself always :smile:

God is in every living creature
God is love and perfection

Suffering is self created

But it takes lots of experience to see it like that
Lots of suffering too

One can chose non acceptance or acceptance

Acceptance is without suffering




God is also hate and suffering.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: My meeting with God and his messages, about the secrets of life. [Re: Icelander]
    #18719118 - 08/17/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Icelander said:
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Cosmicjoker said:
Why is there suffering? Because we can only move fast as we all can move... We are all one being, a wholeness that includes all the souls, all the beings experiencing whatever... and thus we can only move so fast because the oneness includes everything... And thus God is good, doing the best it can, to remove all the suffering from all beings... and have all beings rest forever in the peace of nirvana. But it can only move so fast, because it includes ALL of it... we can only move as fast as we all can move... So there is nothing left to do, except be here now and be part of this awakening process always taking place... We as egos, got to get out of the way, of the awakening process... and it can only move so fast... and that stinks, for beings going through suffering... it really stinks. But is suffering over the suffering going to help? No. Find bliss, find your flow of service, find your nirvana here now as best you can... with each breath.




Sounds like a weak God.  Poor little guy.





It makes you wonder if God is the right word for it. Because God is such a loaded term, that has all this confusing religious baggage attached to it. I am trying to use the word in a different way then it is probably usually used.


Yet remember that as worse as the suffering is, it will end, it will all end eventually and it will never come back... and the Buddha part of God is always and will always be in nirvana, never having to suffer again... we will all merge with that... eventually


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Re: My meeting with God and his messages, about the secrets of life. [Re: Hallucinogenism]
    #18719218 - 08/17/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Hallucinogenism said:
For starters, I am not psychotic. I have never been diagnosed with any psychological disorders, nor am I taking any medication. I am not insane.

When I was 15 maybe 16 I was an atheist. I recklessly burned bibles, bashed religion, and was the usual destructive asshole teenager. Lets get to the story.

I was a teenage kid, atheist. Tripping the night away I was forced into the outside world still incredibly intoxicated. It was very hot, humid, and I was fully clothed. I remember walking, up a hill, than I fell straight forwards onto my face. Next thing I can see is my body. I was above my own body instantaneously after I collapse. My thoughts were calm. I thought nothing of it. I remember looking at myself and thinking "That's me, I'm dead" without any emotion. I floated up higher and looked around my town. Everything is normal, cars rushing around, planes in the sky, the noises and commotion is all normal. This is still reality, this is real. I float higher up into the sky, only to start getting sucked further away from the town by what seems like a tractor beam. Something is pulling me away from earth. I cannot resist or break away!


I watch the ground move farther away. I see earths beautiful spherical ball of life floating in space, I am now not on earth. I get sucked passed the moon and out of the milky way galaxy. Something is drawing me in so fast stars streak by it looks as if I am moving at warp speed how light is streaking!!

EVERYTHING IS NOW WHITE

I sit thoughtless in a white abyss. No thoughts of the crazy events that just unfolded. Emotions are still not there, I am monotone emotionally. Out of the white I see this gold speck. Imagine one pixel, smaller maybe than this. I see this small speck grow. It manifests into a gold orb. This gold orb has the most beautiful silky, somewhat transparent gold color I ever seen. Not even gold itself comes close to this shade of gold. This gold, is righteous.

From within the gold orb flames start shooting off in all directions. These flames are also gold, but they don't flicker like flames from a fire. Their movement is more fluid. Its slower, they move with purpose, with intelligence, they stretch outwards and dissipate into the whiteness, out of my view. This gold orb announces its power to me. Suddenly I feel what we humans call entactogen effects. BUT THIS IS NOT YOUR AVERAGE FEELINGS FROM AN MDMA, OR STIMULANT EUPHORIA. No, no. No amount of any drug will ever bring anybody feelings to this degree. I believe its not humanly possible to feel these emotions to this extent.

I first remember feeling...familiar with who is before me. I feel like I already know this entity, who I will from here on refer to as god. I feel like how I do when I wake up and go into the kitchen and see my father, its nothing out of the ordinary. So I already know who I am with, yet I don't consciously remember meeting him before. Next come the feelings of love. All through out my childhood, teenage years to now, NEVER have I ever felt this sensation of being loved. I felt LOVED. I felt like this god had nothing but love for me, he expressed this through this sensation. This sensation of being loved was so intense, thinking about it now, makes me want to cry. Next I expressed my love. I was being loved, yet I Loved thy god back. I to this day never felt like I loved something to this extent. Not even my own family members, or love for myself, or pets. Never have I expressed love to this magnitude. Next come feelings of euphoria, this felt so good! Paired with the empathy and me giving love, maybe this generated this euphoria I speak of. I was full of glee. I was happy to be there. I felt like I was indeed cradled in the arm ofs the creator and nothing will come close to making me feel how he made me feel. He made me feel like I had no worries, no anxiety, no fear. I felt like I was home! This felt like being home! This did not come across as weird, or paranormal, this WAS the REAL normal, this..is actually reality.

"You have died, but it is not over yet" I hear without having ears. I am being spoken to, telepathically, by god who is before me. His voice was very manly. It was very loving, caring, sweet and gentle. He spoke with confidence and meaning. He than says "You may live forever as a free spirit to roam the astral plane, or you may return to earth, to achieve your life goal, it has not been completed."

I do not recall giving him any reply. Being god I don't think I had to, as he knows everything and knew what I wished to have happen after asking. All the feelings I spoke of get slightly more intense after he first speaks. I have no thoughts, I am just basking in the emotions.

"The meaning of lifeis to be happy. To be free from stress, fear, worry, trouble, and all unhappiness." God speaks again with this statement. He continues on about the meaning of life. He says "Life is about doing what you love, surrounding yourself with the people you love, and the things you love" God spoke again. He seems to speak in single statements, with a period of waiting in between. God started talking again and told me to "Treat others with respect, treat everybody the same no matter what their looks, ideals, opinions, or how they treat you. Love everyone and not hate" He told me to do no wrong to anybody. Just thinking about his words gives me euphoria. I hope I remembered everything he has told me. Its been a while since, but his voice is fresh in my mind.

After god spoke, just as fast as he pulled me from earth, I was thrown back to earth. I was about 500 feet above my body, in a different spot than when I had left. I looked down and saw an ambulance pulled over on the side of the road. I than saw paramedics and a police officer standing over me. I lowered myself and saw them rubbing their knuckles on my sternum in a failed attempt to wake me. I thought to my spirit self "Guess its time to go back" and slowly lowered to my body. As I got close, everything turned white again. I hear nothing as I gain consciousness in my body. This existence is alien to me. I think "This is life? Is this life?" I open my eyes to see some people in front of me just standing. I see paramedics to my left/right just standing. I thought "Is this all we do? Just stand here staring at each other?" From this moment on I was in/out of consciousness. Hospital treated me for having a seizure meanwhile I didn't have one. I remember being asked by nurses if I had done meth, or heroin, or crack. They couldn't figure out what I did. I knew who I was and where I lived but I could not respond properly without getting a stutter or getting stuck in a loop repeating a number of my address over and over till i stopped and blacked out again.


*****

What I think? I believe, I KNOW I met god. What I saw, what I was told, what I was feeling, was all real. At no point when god was telling me the meaning of life was I told to go to church. He did not tell me I had to believe in him, or worship him. He did not tell me I had to be religious. He did not tell me to go to church, or to even acknowledge him. He told me I died, but gave me an option to live or die? What makes me so special to get a second chance? He told me I had a life goal that I did not achieve. Is this goal special enough to him that I had to come back? Why oh why did he not tell me or even hint to what my goal is! I was going through life without meaning, purpose, or any ambition to do anything. God let me know how to live, he told me the answer to one of the most highly questioned topic "Whats the meaning of life?". He turned me from an bible burning atheist into a believer.

Conclusion
Life is not what modern day society has made it. We do not need to excel in school, have vast fortune, or really...amount to anything. Life is far less serious than society makes it. Life is about being happy, doing what you love with those you love. Doing nothing but right to others by treating everybody the same, with respect, never hate. By doing this we can avoid stress, anxiety, all forms of negative emotion resulting in unhappiness. We should never bother ourselves with stress, even in the event of a stressful time. This, is what it means to live, this is what life is about, this is all we need to do to live through this experience on earth how god intended.

In today's society there is no spiritualism, we are spiritually disconnected. This is proven through the worlds lack of subconscious - conscious connection and the current state of our beloved America. Even those who are religious have no spirituality. Simply belonging to a religion and going to church means nothing in terms of how spiritual you are. Spirituality and religion are not the same, not even close. People every week think they are doing the right thing by going to church, its meaningless truly! God loves you no matter if you believe in this, or that, or follow this religion or that one. He loves you because you are you. All you must do to please him is to live, and be happy being alive in this reality he created for us.

Note: I emphasized (or tried too) the words reality. If you understand, you understand. I hope I made it clear to most. I LOVE to talk about this. I love to answer questions about spirituality, meditation, lucid dreaming, and life in general. I have made the connection with my subconscious and have become enlightened. You can't even imagine what you can do when connected with your subconscious, to be TRULY connected, and to know what you can do when connected.

Life is simple! Life is easy! You just need to know!

Ask anything, PM me about anything, converse with me about anything. I love to answer questions and teach what I was taught, and continued to teach myself. I never shared this experience anywhere else. This is the only place I deemed appropriate. The only place I feel will lead to me helping others with great success.




you said you like answering questions about lucid dreaming...

what is the point of lucid dreaming?


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Re: My meeting with God and his messages, about the secrets of life. [Re: moi]
    #18719292 - 08/17/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Cosmicjoker said:
It makes you wonder if God is the right word for it. Because God is such a loaded term, that has all this confusing religious baggage attached to it. I am trying to use the word in a different way then it is probably usually used.


Yet remember that as worse as the suffering is, it will end, it will all end eventually and it will never come back... and the Buddha part of God is always and will always be in nirvana, never having to suffer again... we will all merge with that... eventually




Nirvana is on earth, but it is filtered out by our perception

Constant thoughts in our minds destroy it

Nature,simple lifestyle and meditation , then there is only bliss :smile:
Stress is the opposite , no appreciation

Agree with your posts :smile:
What makes us suffer is living against ourselves
Inner self is bliss


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Re: My meeting with God and his messages, about the secrets of life. [Re: Cosmicjoker]
    #18719407 - 08/17/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yet remember that as worse as the suffering is, it will end, it will all end eventually and it will never come back... and the Buddha part of God is always and will always be in nirvana, never having to suffer again... we will all merge with that... eventually

And yet... I can't see how anyone can know this with any certainty?  It's just a belief like that belief in god those other folk have.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: My meeting with God and his messages, about the secrets of life. [Re: Icelander]
    #18721427 - 08/18/13 12:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Icelander said:
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mio said:
To change the world change oneself always :smile:

God is in every living creature
God is love and perfection

Suffering is self created

But it takes lots of experience to see it like that
Lots of suffering too

One can chose non acceptance or acceptance

Acceptance is without suffering




God is also hate and suffering.




How can you say that when you don't even believe in God? God is not hate and suffering, God is, well, what God actually is, is not describable in words. It is easier to say what God is not, and God is not hate, nor suffering. Those things can only exist in the absence of God.

To be fair, I can understand why someone might think that God was hate and suffering, because you have probably heard people say that God is all things. That is actually true in a sense, but hate and suffering are mere thoughts, dream like appearances, which are not actually what they seem to be. When this is understood, you will see why it is also correct to say that God is not hate and suffering.


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Re: My meeting with God and his messages, about the secrets of life. [Re: Icelander]
    #18721447 - 08/18/13 12:52 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Yet remember that as worse as the suffering is, it will end, it will all end eventually and it will never come back... and the Buddha part of God is always and will always be in nirvana, never having to suffer again... we will all merge with that... eventually

And yet... I can't see how anyone can know this with any certainty?  It's just a belief like that belief in god those other folk have.




Your belief that no one can know things with any certainty is just a belief also. So why do you cling to that belief and try to present it as superior to the beliefs of others?

I have explained this very thing to you before. You act as though your appeal to ignorance is somehow not taking a position, and thus it is more rational and honest than say a belief in God. But not taking a position is itself a position. Your belief that no one can really know anything is your God. So what really separates you from someone who believes in a transcendent God?


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Re: My meeting with God and his messages, about the secrets of life. [Re: Hallucinogenism]
    #18721513 - 08/18/13 01:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

To the OP, that is quite an experience. I can't say I have ever experienced anything like that and you should consider yourself very blessed to have been given such an experience.

There are a few things you said which I believe are incorrect that I wish to bring to your attention.


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People every week think they are doing the right thing by going to church, its meaningless truly! God loves you no matter if you believe in this, or that, or follow this religion or that one. He loves you because you are you. All you must do to please him is to live, and be happy being alive in this reality he created for us.




Of course God loves you no matter if you believe this or that. The purpose of going to church is to learn that. Going to church is not meaningless. We go to church so that we can pretend to worship God, go through the motions as if we loved God. Over time, this helps teach us to really love God, which far being meaningless is the most meaningful thing a human being can do.


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Re: My meeting with God and his messages, about the secrets of life. [Re: Cosmicjoker]
    #18721708 - 08/18/13 04:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

when you laugh laugh.
When you cry cry.
When you see someone suffer FEEL it. That is not 'suffering over suffering', that is empathy.


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Re: My meeting with God and his messages, about the secrets of life. [Re: Deviate]
    #18721825 - 08/18/13 06:24 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Deviate said:
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Icelander said:
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mio said:
To change the world change oneself always :smile:

God is in every living creature
God is love and perfection

Suffering is self created

But it takes lots of experience to see it like that
Lots of suffering too

One can chose non acceptance or acceptance

Acceptance is without suffering




God is also hate and suffering.




How can you say that when you don't even believe in God? God is not hate and suffering, God is, well, what God actually is, is not describable in words. It is easier to say what God is not, and God is not hate, nor suffering. Those things can only exist in the absence of God.

To be fair, I can understand why someone might think that God was hate and suffering, because you have probably heard people say that God is all things. That is actually true in a sense, but hate and suffering are mere thoughts, dream like appearances, which are not actually what they seem to be. When this is understood, you will see why it is also correct to say that God is not hate and suffering.




If hate and suffering are mear thoughts then so is love and happiness.  I don't know if a god exists but you seem to think you know exactly what it is. But imo that is  just guessing and then grabbing on to the attributes you feel most comfortable with. IMO we place undue importance to feelings that make us feel good or secure.  We cling to them and built mountains out of mole hills in our ignorance and lack of balance in perspective. So then some go on to state love is all powerful and all important and pain or fear is all a matter of illusion and ignorance.  This has become quite apparent to me here in 8+ years of discussions.  It might come as a surprise how many people have PMed me with some really hateful messages when I challenged them on these issues.  Many have also received warnings and bans.  This clues me into what a defense mechanism their beliefs likely are.


Edited by Icelander (08/18/13 10:29 AM)


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Re: My meeting with God and his messages, about the secrets of life. [Re: Hallucinogenism]
    #18724902 - 08/18/13 09:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You said you were "tripping". I didn't see any mention of the substance you (thought you) had ingested. I'd be interested to hear that. Did the hospital ever come to a definite diagnosis?


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Re: My meeting with God and his messages, about the secrets of life. [Re: endogenous]
    #18739986 - 08/21/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

What an experience. A good read, thanks for sharing. I've had some pretty divine moments, but nothing to that magnitude.


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