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indefinately growing cake
    #18711539 - 08/15/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

in theory wouldent there be a way to keep adding nutrients to the cake and have the shrooms produce new flushes indefinitely? i dont see any reason why not as long as u keep the substright sterile or am i mistaken.

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Re: indefinately growing cake [Re: evileye001]
    #18711634 - 08/15/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You are mistaken. Even if there was a way to replenish consumed substrate, mycelium will only produce so much before growing old and dying.

Circle of life and such


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Re: indefinately growing cake [Re: maddchef]
    #18711652 - 08/15/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I think that fruiting and keeping it sterile is also very unlikely.

Too much sporeload on regular non-lab air.

Maddchef point is also nice one, could be longer with sclerotia growing species, as they revive the culture.


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Re: indefinately growing cake [Re: NagualaPawer]
    #18711753 - 08/15/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

falling spores could create new mycelium.

if can reproduce in nature every year why is contamination such a problem. as easy as it is to have a contaminated cake why can they survive in the wild?

it was just a thought experiment. i do take contamination very seriously.


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Re: indefinately growing cake [Re: evileye001]
    #18711790 - 08/15/13 10:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The spores can't create new myc on top of old myc


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Re: indefinately growing cake [Re: maddchef]
    #18712791 - 08/16/13 01:56 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

well you certainly wouldn't be following a tek, but if your innovative enough you could maybe create a mini ecosystem like a vivarium or something where you could maybe simulate seasons with temp changes and maybe adding different materials and critters to create a little continuously renewing ecosystem/substrate.

I'm stoned and tired... but I think it could work. definitely wouldn't be producing much shroom weight for the effort, but if your into novelty grows it might be fun.


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Re: indefinately growing cake [Re: maddchef]
    #18712878 - 08/16/13 02:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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maddchef said:
You are mistaken. Even if there was a way to replenish consumed substrate, mycelium will only produce so much before growing old and dying.

Circle of life and such





Fungi have relatively unique genetics, and don't age like plants and animals. There are rumors of mycelium being commercially cultivated for decades without dying, and natural specimens thousands of years old. From what i've read, without careful agar work and changing the nutrient medium, senescence sets in eventually. Never kept anything alive long enough myself to find out...

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/fungus1.html

If you felt like injecting a sterile, weak malt solution into a cake, to see if you could get ongoing flushes, it might be a fun experiment. My guess is that it would turn into bacteria/yeast/mold gangbang in about 3 days.


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Re: indefinately growing cake [Re: evileye001]
    #18712917 - 08/16/13 03:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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if can reproduce in nature every year why is contamination such a problem. as easy as it is to have a contaminated cake why can they survive in the wild?



The vast majority of them don't survive in the wild. That's why mushroom hunting can be so hard.


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