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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: All my Organic Food keeps going bad [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18710182 - 08/15/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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And yes, you can freeze bread. My mom used to do it all the time. My friends always thought it strange, but it holds up pretty damn well.



it goes stale though. look it up. you're eating stale bread, with little to no nutritional value, depending on how long it was in the fridge.

Myth 7: Put Bread in refrigerator for longer shelf life.

False. Bread actually stales quicker if kept in fridge, due to constant airflow. Also absorbs foreign tastes and odors. So, it may not grow mold as quickly, but it will be stale faster! Bread should be kept in a cool dry place, like a bread box.


http://www.dvo.com/newsletter/monthly/2011/october/tabletalk1.html

i was surprised to see that everyone here is doing this apparently. my dad does it too, and he swears by it. :yesnod:


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Yeah I don't think Organic food is all its cracked up to be. It might be healthier, but it ain't worth a shit if you cant eat it.

A new "Fresh Market" store opened up here in Aiken selling mostly (high priced) organic food. So I boycotted Walmart and started buying from there. My damn bread and lunch meat went bad in just over a week. As in growing green shit on it. Giving them the benefit of the doubt I bought from them again. Same thing. Bread went bad in 5 days, fruit started becoming uneatable in 3.

Now I don't support chemicals in food, but a little BHT preservative never hurt anyone. There is a reason its put in food, and its not to poison you for the new world order.




Sorry but its not healthier. They use pesticides too, organic ones that are more toxic then the latest inorganics. Not to mention the runoff and the terrible inefficiency that comes with it. If every farm out there switched to organics about 3 billion people would starve to death. Organics are stupid, your thoughts about processed food are stupid, and your a fucking fool whos willing to pay 40% more for food of a lesser quality then whats currently out there.



all true. organic grows, should either be done by ones self or by a trusted producer that doesn't use pesticides.


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Re: All my Organic Food keeps going bad [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18710194 - 08/15/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Where do you come up with this number of people starving to death if farmers switched to organics?

There are many ways of implementing "organic" practices. Some being to use organic sprays, others being things like crop rotation, beneficial bugs, and physical barriers to reduce problems.

Ever heard of biointensive farming? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biointensive_agriculture


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Re: All my Organic Food keeps going bad [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18710207 - 08/15/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Labour intensive farming* ie) Inefficient farming. The numbers were reached through a simple extrapolation of yields for organic and modern crops.


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Re: All my Organic Food keeps going bad [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18710211 - 08/15/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I'd like to hear more about this simple extrapolation.


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Re: All my Organic Food keeps going bad [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18710213 - 08/15/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

hey, anything FOR SCIENCE!  :havesomescience:


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Re: All my Organic Food keeps going bad [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18710218 - 08/15/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I'd like to hear more about this simple extrapolation.




You would, googles got everything you need. If you can manage to figure out what keywords to use.


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Re: All my Organic Food keeps going bad [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18710225 - 08/15/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

You said the number. I'm afraid the burden of proof rests on your shoulders. Unless you admit that you pulled it out of your ass, or from some biased website.


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Re: All my Organic Food keeps going bad [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18710226 - 08/15/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

i wouldn't simply  "extrapolate" from keywords, by their lonesome.


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Re: All my Organic Food keeps going bad [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 3
    #18710230 - 08/15/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

hell hell--grow your own and learn to can---shit yall


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Re: All my Organic Food keeps going bad [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18710234 - 08/15/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Mr Wilson, always with the good advise. :curbyourenthusiasm:


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Re: All my Organic Food keeps going bad [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18710249 - 08/15/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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You said the number. I'm afraid the burden of proof rests on your shoulders. Unless you admit that you pulled it out of your ass, or from some biased website.




Your the one making claims, back your own shit up first. You make all these wild claims about organics being healthier and simply better then what we currently have, yet you provide not a single fucking shred of evidence to back any of what your saying up. Why should I have to produce any simply because Im saying something to the contrary. Shouldnt you already have this shit at the ready if you so readily believe in what you preach. Or does the evidence clause only pop up on things that run contrary to what you believe? Cause if it does thats a terribly stupid way of building a world view.


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Re: All my Organic Food keeps going bad [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18710258 - 08/15/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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You said the number. I'm afraid the burden of proof rests on your shoulders. Unless you admit that you pulled it out of your ass, or from some biased website.




Your the one making claims, back your own shit up first. You make all these wild claims about organics being healthier and simply better then what we currently have, yet you provide not a single fucking shred of evidence to back any of what your saying up. Why should I have to produce any simply because Im saying something to the contrary. Shouldnt you already have this shit at the ready if you so readily believe in what you preach. Or does the evidence clause only pop up on things that run contrary to what you believe? Cause if it does thats a terribly stupid way of building a world view.



I think you are projecting. I didn't make any such claims that I recall.

Would you like to show me where I made such claims?


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Re: All my Organic Food keeps going bad [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18710260 - 08/15/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

i got a tree in my back yard, apples are wayyyyyyyyyy better than store baught and just as sweet

but they have  apple scabs or some similar disease, so usually half the apple is useless

also the apples are small like golf balls :sad:


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Re: All my Organic Food keeps going bad [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18710271 - 08/15/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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really?





Yes. I go to cosco and freeze all my bread. The only fresh bread I ever have is from a local baker and I go by a load and consume it over 2 two days. Otherwise my bread stays frozen and then I pop it in the toaster oven for 5 minutes and it's perfect. Simple and easy. I always have bread and I'm never throwing it away. I always have high quality bread that is 100% consumed because it's expensive.


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Re: All my Organic Food keeps going bad [Re: withoutawire]
    #18710296 - 08/15/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

:sherlock2: me thinks you eat alot of fuckin' bread.


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Re: All my Organic Food keeps going bad [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18710303 - 08/15/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I eat a good amount. I use 2-6 pieces of freezer bread every week and I buy a loaf of high quality bread about once every few months. I often go to to the baker and buy a mini loaf and some goat cheese, or 3 year old aged cheddar, or other fancy cheese and have that for a meal. I loveee fresh baked bread and artisanal cheese.

So I go to cosco to buy freezer bread every 2 months or so


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Re: All my Organic Food keeps going bad [Re: withoutawire]
    #18710317 - 08/15/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

damn right. fresh bread and shit is awesome. cheese and charcuterie and oils... :drooling:

let me get this straight, you don't use frozen breads as the center to your accompaniments in your grand munchie sessions, do you? just the fresh breads, right?


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Re: All my Organic Food keeps going bad [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18710327 - 08/15/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

My grandpa will buy 5 French breads from the bakery at one time, cut them in half, bag and freeze them. They never have problems w bad bread Bc of this and that bread will sit in there for a month and still taste fine.


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Re: All my Organic Food keeps going bad [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #18710332 - 08/15/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

all the nutriants are long gone by then. tastes fine, if you leave it in the freezer and don't take it out and leave it out for more then a few days, because that this is officially stale. but hey, don't take my word for it. i'm just an idiot.


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Re: All my Organic Food keeps going bad [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18710334 - 08/15/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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nicechrisman said:
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nicechrisman said:
You said the number. I'm afraid the burden of proof rests on your shoulders. Unless you admit that you pulled it out of your ass, or from some biased website.




Your the one making claims, back your own shit up first. You make all these wild claims about organics being healthier and simply better then what we currently have, yet you provide not a single fucking shred of evidence to back any of what your saying up. Why should I have to produce any simply because Im saying something to the contrary. Shouldnt you already have this shit at the ready if you so readily believe in what you preach. Or does the evidence clause only pop up on things that run contrary to what you believe? Cause if it does thats a terribly stupid way of building a world view.



I think you are projecting. I didn't make any such claims that I recall.

Would you like to show me where I made such claims?




You sound as if your in support if it. Consider what I said to be towards anyone who supports organics as being better.


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