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Anonymous #1

marketplace rules?
    #18710034 - 08/15/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

it ok to ask for ergot? really interested in trying to culture.


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Anonymous #2

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18710134 - 08/15/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

any clue how dangerous it is to handle ergot?

this is one of those things,
where if ya cant source a culture yourself,
ya pry shouldnt have it.........


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Anonymous #1

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #18710202 - 08/15/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
any clue how dangerous it is to handle ergot?

this is one of those things,
where if ya cant source a culture yourself,
ya pry shouldnt have it.........





thats not my concern. im aware of it and am trying to find it.  haven been awhile.  is it against the rules? and legal sources? was thinking maybe Japan


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Anonymous #2

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18710427 - 08/15/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

id be deeply concerned.
if ya understood the stuff,
you'd also know where to get cultures.

ergot, can be highly dangerous.
if your not pro trained in at least +3 containment environments,
you should consider something safer, like cobra milking.

rules or not, i dont think anyone sane, with ergot cultures,
would risk hooking you up HERE.

i would hope not at least.


Edited by Anonymous (08/15/13 05:51 PM)


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Anonymous #1

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #18711065 - 08/15/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
id be deeply concerned.
if ya understood the stuff,
you'd also know where to get cultures.

ergot, can be highly dangerous.
if your not pro trained in at least +3 containment environments,
you should consider something safer, like cobra milking.

rules or not, i dont think anyone sane, with ergot cultures,
would risk hooking you up HERE.

i would hope not at least.




  anonymous 2 is the only person who understands ergot apparently. why dont you try sticking your head up your ass.  your not helping with my question in the least.  FYI, people would just probably not to you


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Anonymous #3

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18711123 - 08/15/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
id be deeply concerned.
if ya understood the stuff,
you'd also know where to get cultures.

ergot, can be highly dangerous.
if your not pro trained in at least +3 containment environments,
you should consider something safer, like cobra milking.

rules or not, i dont think anyone sane, with ergot cultures,
would risk hooking you up HERE.

i would hope not at least.




  anonymous 2 is the only person who understands ergot apparently. why dont you try sticking your head up your ass.  your not helping with my question in the least.  FYI, people would just probably not to you



:underage:  Clearly you don't understand basic grammar.


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Anonymous #2

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #18711317 - 08/15/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

charming.
insult your way to a semi hazardous culture, on a forum.
ill bet thats how all the pros do it.


my point is simple.
if ya had the skill to handle it properly,
you wouldnt have to ask here for it.

you would already be able to get it.


not all cultures,
are warm and fuzzy like pink king oysters in a gift basket.
hence, they are not traded commonly with the general public.


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Anonymous #1

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18711807 - 08/15/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

go on. listening


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Anonymous #4

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18715032 - 08/16/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

translation for OP


you are a dumbass young kid with no experience having delusions of grandeur about being the next LSD king.


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Anonymous #1

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #18715267 - 08/16/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #4 said:
translation for OP


you are a dumbass young kid with no experience having delusions of grandeur about being the next LSD king.





I'm not kid, im in my late 20s. i have exensively studied chemistry and is the reason why i went back to college.  i have collected a variety of lab equipment.  i have extensive knowledge of growing mushrooms.  i understand the synthesis of LSD very well. nothing an anonymous shroomerite can say is gonna discourage me; i think it's ignorance.  I'm trying to find a way to obtain ergot so i can begin practicing it's culture.  was hoping i could get pointed in the right direction.


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Anonymous #5

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18715284 - 08/16/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Why don't you just ask for it and see what happens. Fuck. If you're so bound and determined a temp ban for asking for the wrong thing shouldn't be such a big fucking deal.


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Anonymous #2

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18715287 - 08/16/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

if ya had half the education ya claim,
youd already have it.
as ,its not hard to find in pro myco circles.

i dont think anyone sane will hook ya up with a culture here.


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Anonymous #1

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #18715572 - 08/16/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
if ya had half the education ya claim,
youd already have it.
as ,its not hard to find in pro myco circles.

i dont think anyone sane will hook ya up with a culture here.






pro myco circles huh?  shroomery probably isn't the best place.  I'll keep looking thou thanks


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Anonymous #2

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18715593 - 08/16/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
if ya had half the education ya claim,
youd already have it.
as ,its not hard to find in pro myco circles.

i dont think anyone sane will hook ya up with a culture here.






pro myco circles huh?  shroomery probably isn't the best place.  I'll keep looking thou thanks




these peeps grow basidiomycota,
they only know ascomycota as " contams".

a good percent, cant tell the diff tween pesty trichoderma,
and heptacarcinogen loaded aspergillus.

takes more than a raid on a  meth chem set, to handle many ascomycota.
anyone who thinks they can whip off a case of masons of ergot,
is both dangerous, and poorly informed.

as much as we all love rogers place,
its not the proper platform for hazardous ascomycota aquisition.
nor should it be ,  IMO.


Edited by Anonymous (08/16/13 05:35 PM)


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Anonymous #6

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #18715948 - 08/16/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
if ya had half the education ya claim,
youd already have it.
as ,its not hard to find in pro myco circles.

i dont think anyone sane will hook ya up with a culture here.






pro myco circles huh?  shroomery probably isn't the best place.  I'll keep looking thou thanks




these peeps grow basidiomycota,
they only know ascomycota as " contams".

a good percent, cant tell the diff tween pesty trichoderma,
and heptacarcinogen loaded aspergillus.

takes more than a raid on a  meth chem set, to handle many ascomycota.
anyone who thinks they can whip off a case of masons of ergot,
is both dangerous, and poorly informed.

as much as we all love rogers place,
its not the proper platform for hazardous ascomycota aquisition.
nor should it be ,  IMO.





:whathesaid:

Nobody's gonna give you an ergot culture, kid. Besides, that's not the best way to go about producing LSD anymore.


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Anonymous #1

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #18715972 - 08/16/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
if ya had half the education ya claim,
youd already have it.
as ,its not hard to find in pro myco circles.

i dont think anyone sane will hook ya up with a culture here.






pro myco circles huh?  shroomery probably isn't the best place.  I'll keep looking thou thanks




these peeps grow basidiomycota,
they only know ascomycota as " contams".

a good percent, cant tell the diff tween pesty trichoderma,
and heptacarcinogen loaded aspergillus.

takes more than a raid on a  meth chem set, to handle many ascomycota.
anyone who thinks they can whip off a case of masons of ergot,
is both dangerous, and poorly informed.

as much as we all love rogers place,
its not the proper platform for hazardous ascomycota aquisition.
nor should it be ,  IMO.





:whathesaid:

Nobody's gonna give you an ergot culture, kid. Besides, that's not the best way to go about producing LSD anymore.





woodrose/ morning Glory is less plausible.  maybe sleepygrass, but there is so little information on it and no experiments ive seen on extraction or ingestion.  ergot seems the best cause you can culture alot in a.little amount of time.  what did you have in mind?


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Anonymous #7

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18716582 - 08/16/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I am not even sure you would be able to get it to grow well/properly. Apparently it needs to infect a live growing flowering grass or cereal. :shrug: Check out the wiki here. In my opinion, too dangerous, but you don't seem to want to take no as an answer.

Regardless, keep us posted

Cheers!


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Anonymous #6

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18716649 - 08/16/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
woodrose/ morning Glory is less plausible.  maybe sleepygrass, but there is so little information on it and no experiments ive seen on extraction or ingestion.  ergot seems the best cause you can culture alot in a.little amount of time.  what did you have in mind?




A different source of LSA, or source ET from something besides raw ergot.


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Anonymous #2

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #18716696 - 08/16/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

of course there are diff ways.
all of em rather hazardous.

shrooms are warm and fuzzy.
not everything else is , in a closed environment.

a tip though, for the determined.
a while back, i saw a paper in a research journal,
and ,the source was asian.

they figured out how to bottle up on the bio basics.
BUT, no one is doing it in a kitchen.
PF tek skills, wouldnt get it.

the knowledge you seek luke,
is out there. but not here. today.


Edited by Anonymous (08/16/13 10:22 PM)


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Anonymous #6

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #18717271 - 08/17/13 12:50 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You know, it's a moot point, honestly. If OP had enough knowledge to safely do the synth, he'd either have the connections for the culture he needs, enough training to go about a more feasible synthesis or the knowledge to realize it's not just something you can throw together in your kitchen, even if you have the skills and the glass.

Besides the ergot, which is dangerous enough in and of itself, I'd worry more about the hydrazine that you have to work with whether you start from ET or LSA and how just a little bit can poison a shitload of people if not handled correctly.


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Anonymous #8

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #18718388 - 08/17/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
woodrose/ morning Glory is less plausible.  maybe sleepygrass, but there is so little information on it and no experiments ive seen on extraction or ingestion.  ergot seems the best cause you can culture alot in a.little amount of time.  what did you have in mind?




A different source of LSA, or source ET from something besides raw ergot.





Actually, sleepygrass may be the best source:



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Anonymous #2

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #18718396 - 08/17/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
even if you have  the glass.

hydrazine ..........




i doubt he has actinic glass, or even knows where to get it.
( even with map to it, pry couldnt afford it)
doubt he has a sox or suitable chroma column.
bet any money doesnt even have a hand vac pump.

if ya dont know your chems ,and types of glass joints,
that alone will kill ya.

i suspect the " glass" amounts to thin chinese surplus.

even if by miracle, he has the basic glass,
pry wouldnt be practical sizes.
(little student glass is easy to get,
now order the " fun size", youll be in the news)

the list of chem dangers, is a whole nother issue.
hydrazine, is some evil shit.
by the time ya realize its fucking with ya, your cooked.

as far as chem aquisiton?
sure you can order anything!
most of what ya need is delivered by swat team and hazmat.

have ya priced any chems? lol. price of a car.
think ya can spread out orders? or weasel under thresholds?
trust me, they are wise to them trix.
google earth tells them in seconds wether your in a legit business,
or an apt or even a trailer...........most will check,
even if ya have an account. ( hydrazine + "cul de sac" = warrant)
ill bet ya thought ya could do this cash or gift card...ya cant.
try ordering even dihydrogen oxide with a postal M.O.
unverifed funds, is an auto flag, for almost anything needed.

fire suppression, pry amounts to a wally world kitchen extinguisher.
cant imagine a CO2 system, or halon........
any ventilation device , not verified spark proof,
will also fireball ya like a "die hard" movie finale

fact is, it aint shake and bake.

what id REALLY like to know,
is his plan for the toxic waste.
you dump an op like that in someones dumpster,
and, the survivors are gonna be PISSED!
( ironically lucy would have some splainin to do.)


yes, i know bear did it in the 60's in apts and houses.
it aint 1960's, and ,you aint bear.


Edited by Anonymous (08/17/13 11:43 AM)


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Anonymous #1

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #18719041 - 08/17/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

hydrazine?  was more thinking along the lines of hardisons Peptide Coupling method and use methanol. Other than the coupling agent, most the chems should be over the counter. Am i missing something?


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Anonymous #2

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18719070 - 08/17/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

probably the skill to pull it off ,
and, surviving ergot handling for starters.

allow me this,
ludes, for instance,
are actually a doable thing, with mostly off the shelf stuff.
yet, ya dont see ludes ops much.
why?
survive the process.
thats why.

seriously, if ya have enough ergot to make good,
odds are it will take ya down,
before ya turn on the heating mantles.


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Anonymous #1

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #18719279 - 08/17/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #8 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
woodrose/ morning Glory is less plausible.  maybe sleepygrass, but there is so little information on it and no experiments ive seen on extraction or ingestion.  ergot seems the best cause you can culture alot in a.little amount of time.  what did you have in mind?




A different source of LSA, or source ET from something besides raw ergot.





Actually, sleepygrass may be the best source:






Dont like that girl.  Thought i heard she narced out the lab that pickard ran according to an interview with Vice.  Also, she kinda lame putting herself out there in all these videos talking about psychedelics


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Anonymous #8

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18719323 - 08/17/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Dont like that girl.  Thought i heard she narced out the lab that pickard ran according to an interview with Vice.





I think in her book she alleges that the accusations circulating about her are falsifications. Don't know why everybody's so quick to accuse her. Give her the benefit of the doubt. :shrug: :grin:


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Anonymous #1

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #18719327 - 08/17/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #8 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Dont like that girl.  Thought i heard she narced out the lab that pickard ran according to an interview with Vice.





I think in her book she alleges that the accusations circulating about her are falsifications. Don't know why everybody's so quick to accuse her. Give her the benefit of the doubt. :shrug: :grin:





cause she said so herself in the interview with Vice



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Anonymous #2

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18719771 - 08/17/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

it would appear,
in additon to the chem and bio and physics hazards,
one would also have to contend with the ever present informants,
and ,their unpleasant ilk.

its a long walk thru the minefield,
if ya wanna rock and roll.


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Anonymous #1

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #18723027 - 08/18/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

best way to keep a lab is to keep it secret, if one were to ever be built.  Everything in this tread is fecicous.

since were on the subject, has anyone ever tried sleepy grass? tea wise or ingesting.  So little info online.  Thats why i was leaning towards ergot.


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Anonymous #8

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18723031 - 08/18/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)



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Anonymous #9

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18723036 - 08/18/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
it ok to ask for ergot? really interested in trying to culture.



They see him trollin....

They laughin....

Caught that dumbass postin dirty

:classictroll:


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Anonymous #2

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #18723281 - 08/18/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

acremonium isolates from sleepy grass,
could be problematic.
id suggest one does not eat sleepy grass or its extracts.

those who think they can ingest ,
acremonium extract, without chroma skill,
would likely not survive.

and ,this brings me to my point.

advanced mycology, and advanced chem, and cid,
cannot be reduced to grazing a bucket of forage.
if that was the case, all cattle would have tye dyed fur.

one cannot seriously , expect to talk ground up cid production,
and ,suggest eating endophyte grass, in the same paradigm.

some of you guys, are starting to make me think,
your oliver twist with a yellow HDPE gallon pail,
standing behind a trailer in the midwest ,
begging for anything ya can find in the yard to catch a good buzz, before mom gets home.

show some self respect.
throw a turd in the bucket, and ,visit the mush-cult forums,
dont try and acquire dangerous ascomycota, and ,think your gonna PFtek and A/B your way to the next dead show..........
aint happening.


Edited by Anonymous (08/18/13 04:05 PM)


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Anonymous #1

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #18740727 - 08/22/13 02:31 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Alan, are you anonymous #2  :smile:


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Anonymous #4

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18741483 - 08/22/13 09:41 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

really? you can't tell thats anne h?

the bold text... the intellectual condescending?

shame on you


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Anonymous #6

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #18742656 - 08/22/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

That's definitely Anne. She didn't even try to hide it.


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Anonymous #8

Re: marketplace rules? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #18742672 - 08/22/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I just realized that her name is a play on an alternative latin name for peyote: Anhalonium lewinii


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