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Re: Pigskin Pickem (NFL weekly picks) [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19010731 - 10/21/13 09:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I missed out on signups for this which sucks.


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Re: Pigskin Pickem (NFL weekly picks) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #19010831 - 10/21/13 09:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

why isnt this thread stickied? i think it meets the proper requirements.


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Re: Pigskin Pickem (NFL weekly picks) [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19010889 - 10/21/13 09:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It doesn't need a sticky imo, it lives at the top of the forum. I enjoy the convo with everyone a lot and this thread is pretty active, If activity drops or something I can sticky it, but right now it's always on top.


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Re: Pigskin Pickem (NFL weekly picks) [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #19010898 - 10/21/13 09:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I reply because it is the most active. I wish I could still join.  A sticky is in necessary


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Re: Pigskin Pickem (NFL weekly picks) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #19010913 - 10/21/13 09:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I dont know why sneezing used acronyms


what he is saying though is a correct over under is 1 point correct winner is 2 points and a correct point spread is 3 points.


I dont know about that though man. if you pick the spread right you usually pick the winner as well and the way its worked out all three normally work together.

Im not a big gambler or anything but i have family members that are and they tell me vegas gets that shit right more often than not. Obviously or they would be broke but still. I think the best way would just be a straight picks (like the current state) then like a psuedo gambling one where you could do parlays over/under and all that shit.


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Re: Pigskin Pickem (NFL weekly picks) [Re: elax420]
    #19011284 - 10/21/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, vegas gets that shit so right that it is very easy, in fact common, to have one team lose the spread and another lose the game.


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Re: Pigskin Pickem (NFL weekly picks) [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19013001 - 10/22/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I dont know if thats sarcasm or what but...


they obviously win much more than they lose.



The spread is normally right on or very close too.


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Re: Pigskin Pickem (NFL weekly picks) [Re: elax420]
    #19013794 - 10/22/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

being a bookie doesn't mean you make your money by having more losers than winners. You make your money on the little +/- number. for example, if you see a bet that says: saints -7.5 +120 it means that you would have to pay $120 to make $100.

A bookie is basically a market liaison. He basically just has the losers pay the winners and takes the juice off the losers.

lets say you had 500 people take that bet above @120 for 100. he has $60,000 from these 500 bets.

if everyone bet the same way and won, he would owe $110,000 to these 500 people... basically $50k of his own money.

but that never happens because they push lines to get people to bet the other way. it is all a balancing act.

if half the people bet one way and half the people bet the other, he only pays out $55,000 to the 250 winners and pockets the other $5k.... because he is paying the 250 winners $220 a piece from the 60k total, while the losers just got taken for $120.

betting lines aren't always formulated based solely on predictions, it has a lot to do with public perception, just like the stock market. Look at that DEN JAX game with a -28 spread. no oddsmaker would ever make that prediction, but the public perception was that this game would be so lopsided it is like Alabama playing a charter school from uraguay.

the bookies don't care who wins and who loses, all they have to do is find enough people to cover their bets on the other side and balance the winners out with the losers.

the bookies take risk by pushing lines. for example, if of those 500 people, 300 of them bet on the saints and 200 bet on the bills +7.5, he would push the line to 8.5 in hopes that other people would take the bills to balance it out. BUT! if the bills lost by exactly 8, he would be fucked because he just turned all the new bets into wins with the 300 that took the saints.

so basically what i am saying is that the amount of money vegas makes has nothing to do with how accurate their lines are


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Re: Pigskin Pickem (NFL weekly picks) [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19013868 - 10/22/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Like 10 times the revenue of all pro sports combined is generated by gambling on them. So it's obvious there is quite a bit of rigged games that benefit people financially. The Rich get Richer..

Moneylines are great when they have an overrated team favored.


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Re: Pigskin Pickem (NFL weekly picks) [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #19028872 - 10/24/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

did anyone else hear the announcer on tonights game say "shit" when the canons went off at the near end of the 4th quarter?

I swear i heard one guy say "someone needs to tell that guy with the button-" then the other one interrupt and say "yeah, tell that guy to stop that canon shit".

or something close to that.


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Re: Pigskin Pickem (NFL weekly picks) [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19029097 - 10/25/13 12:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Didnt hear any swearing but they sure were shooting the canon off like crazy tonight for a 31-13 loss.


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Re: Pigskin Pickem (NFL weekly picks) [Re: Dety]
    #19031122 - 10/25/13 01:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

it was almost indistinguishable. if anyone recorded the game it was right when that FG was made the cannon went off twice and a flag was thrown with about 5:44 left to go in the 4th quarter.


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Re: Pigskin Pickem (NFL weekly picks) [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19031974 - 10/25/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:lol: They were shooting it when the Bucs got in the redzone near the end of the game, when Glennon got sacked for +2 yards. Cannon guy was like "Fuck it" *takes a swig, fires cannon* And it gave us this gif



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Re: Pigskin Pickem (NFL weekly picks) [Re: gzuf]
    #19032229 - 10/25/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



It's our fucking cannon and we'll shoot it off whenever the fuck we want to.


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Re: Pigskin Pickem (NFL weekly picks) [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19032423 - 10/25/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Forgot to make my pick, missed out on an easy point :facepalm:


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Re: Pigskin Pickem (NFL weekly picks) [Re: Ran-D]
    #19034453 - 10/26/13 07:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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:lol: They were shooting it when the Bucs got in the redzone near the end of the game, when Glennon got sacked for +2 yards. Cannon guy was like "Fuck it" *takes a swig, fires cannon* And it gave us this gif





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Forgot to make my pick, missed out on an easy point :facepalm:



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Re: Pigskin Pickem (NFL weekly picks) [Re: MadSeasonAbove]
    #19035909 - 10/26/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

next week the Bucs should just shoot the cannon off in the middle of the first quarter for no reason, like 8 times in a row and blast "Hood Gone love it".


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Re: Pigskin Pickem (NFL weekly picks) [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19040933 - 10/27/13 01:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Chiefs struggling vs Cleveland, the AFC West teams appear to need every bit of their soft schedules.


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Re: Pigskin Pickem (NFL weekly picks) [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #19041002 - 10/27/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Pigskin Pickem (NFL weekly picks) [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19041026 - 10/27/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

woohoo picked the cowboys


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