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rew736
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What rodent is this!?!?
#18709009 - 08/15/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have caught a picture of the critter that has been eating my canteloupe, munching on my carrots and devouring my tomatoes. Sorry about the quality, but this was taken by a deer hunting cam thing.

The current guess is a groundhog. Any suggestions or confirmations?
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: rew736]
#18709181 - 08/15/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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raccoon im guessing
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: rew736]
#18709208 - 08/15/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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that there is a fine specimen of the common groundhog happily feeding in his preferred environment and not paying a damn bit of attention to that hav-a-hart trap--lol-----they eat mostly vegetables and you are going to have to bait that trap with something real good---like better than that cantaloupe--lol---good luck with that--lol
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: Mr. Wilson] 1
#18709746 - 08/15/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Groundhog probably. First i thought of a Nutria, but their fur is more coarse and wiry.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: sniffy]
#18714390 - 08/16/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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sniffy said: raccoon im guessing 
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learning sponge said:
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sniffy said: raccoon im guessing 
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: SmOakland]
#18714693 - 08/16/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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No shit coons got ringed tails hey other guy you opposed to putting a bullet between its eyes?? Thats what i would do that critter will have your whole patch eat before you catch it
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#18714724 - 08/16/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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That camera takes some nice clear pics btw also that early season blight has been a bitch this year aint it your maters look rough mine didnt make it cause all this damn rain im in the SE US btw my herb plants are a different story hey hey lol
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: rew736]
#18714930 - 08/16/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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just chekin my sig
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#18715054 - 08/16/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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What that animal is depends mostly on your location. Looks like a nutria to me. Hard to tell without seeing the whole face and the tail. We have nutria and muskrat everywhere here in Texas. It's hard to tell them apart.

Beaver, Nutria, Groundhog, Muskrat.
This particular photo doesn't do much justice for the muskrat, which can sometimes be as large or larger than a nutria.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: prismism] 1
#18715119 - 08/16/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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hey that's a good haul man---you may be right ---I say groundhog though--either way cure is the same lol
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#18715266 - 08/16/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mr. Wilson said: putting a bullet between its eyes?? Thats what i would do
I'm glad we're not all you. Trap & release is an option, or enclose the garden grounds. We kill enough animals and cause enough endangerment to feed the masses. Share some with a little furry friend once in a while, can't kill everything.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: 1234go]
#18715333 - 08/16/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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trap and release is not an option if he wants any fruits of labor---that ghog will have ate out in less than 2 weeks---and those things got some teeth--go right thru chicken wire---they make a descent hide--check above post
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#18715456 - 08/16/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mr. Wilson said: trap and release is not an option if he wants any fruits of labor
That doesn't make sense.
I know all about loss to wildlife, deer are a HUGE problem where I live. They walk the streets of my neighborhood and give birth in my backyard. I know how frustrating it is. We just can't go around snuffin' everything we see in our gardens, don't we enjoy our gardens because it brings us peace and closer to nature? Right vs wrong is what it boils down to IMO. Perhaps i'm preaching to a brick wall, i'll shut up.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: 1234go]
#18715496 - 08/16/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah I guess dude could get some like bobcat piss scent and go around the perimeter===might work
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: 1234go]
#18715635 - 08/16/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mr. Wilson said: putting a bullet between its eyes?? Thats what i would do
I'm glad we're not all you. Trap & release is an option, or enclose the garden grounds. We kill enough animals and cause enough endangerment to feed the masses. Share some with a little furry friend once in a while, can't kill everything.
He can spend 4 cents on a round of .22 lr, or he can spend hundreds of $ and several dozen hours putting in a fence. If the animal does go in the trap, he will need to drive it many miles away unless he wants it to come back the same day. While this may seem like the more humane option, it is not. He will inevitably drop it in another animal's territory and it will have to fight, come back to its old territory, or die trying.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: SmOakland]
#18715894 - 08/16/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: rew736]
#18716143 - 08/16/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eat it.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: SmOakland]
#18717951 - 08/17/13 07:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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While this may seem like the more humane option, it is not.
Is this a fact? Sure killing something solves an issue real quick, we all know that. It just comes back to what you feel is right i suppose, while catching and releasing might be inconvenient for you, i'm sure the animal would appreciate (if he/she could) being relocated, rather than exterminated. At least be eating what you kill.
There are also groups that will come by free of charge and take trapped animals away, i used these people with raccoons i had trapped that were making my garage there home.
All i'm sayin is we should be thinking a bit before we decide to just blast every passerby. Our gardens aren't our lifelines anymore, we all still have our cabinets jam packed with food do we not?
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: SmOakland]
#18718714 - 08/17/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mr. Wilson said: putting a bullet between its eyes?? Thats what i would do
I'm glad we're not all you. Trap & release is an option, or enclose the garden grounds. We kill enough animals and cause enough endangerment to feed the masses. Share some with a little furry friend once in a while, can't kill everything.
He can spend 4 cents on a round of .22 lr, or he can spend hundreds of $ and several dozen hours putting in a fence. If the animal does go in the trap, he will need to drive it many miles away unless he wants it to come back the same day. While this may seem like the more humane option, it is not. He will inevitably drop it in another animal's territory and it will have to fight, come back to its old territory, or die trying.
If you know your area, you should know the animals you have as ''enemies'' and if you want to avoid killing them, you can do it very easily, without you ''running'' for supplies the last moment (that s dump).
Now, what will do to them and how to avoid them, is just personal matter, you want to spend few bucks and kill it, or you want to spend more and not kill it?
For me, paying some money for the sake of animals that i know they will come, is pretty easy.Spend some money on that and not buying a gun is a choice..!!
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: 1234go]
#18718723 - 08/17/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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1234go said: we all still have our cabinets jam packed with food do we not?
Apparently some people don't lol. I don't mind driving however many miles away to drop off unwanted guests that sneak around my domicile. I refuse to kill anything unless I'm about to eat it or it's about to eat me. There are a few exceptions to the rule as always.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: SuperD]
#18718752 - 08/17/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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1234go said: we all still have our cabinets jam packed with food do we not?
Apparently some people don't lol. I don't mind driving however many miles away to drop off unwanted guests that sneak around my domicile. I refuse to kill anything unless I'm about to eat it or it's about to eat me. There are a few exceptions to the rule as always.
Well said.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: SuperD]
#18719404 - 08/17/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't mind driving however many miles away to drop off unwanted guests that sneak around my domicile. I refuse to kill anything unless I'm about to eat it or it's about to eat me. There are a few exceptions to the rule as always.
Agreed
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: sniffy]
#18719445 - 08/17/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: rew736]
#18719847 - 08/17/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's a groundhog aka. Marmota monax which as far as I know aren't found in TX (and don't look like what was posted up as a "groundhog" above), but are common in OPs location.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: rew736]
#18720483 - 08/17/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here's your solution. Just beef it up so that it lands in the next district. 
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: karode13]
#18720633 - 08/17/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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http://www.motherearthnews.com/real-food/groundhog-day-groundhog-recipes.aspx
.22lr
They are vegatarians not scavengers. Shoot it cook it with veggies from garden, and tan the hide.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: karode13]
#18721305 - 08/18/13 12:03 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: gopener]
#18722431 - 08/18/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dirty, thieving little marmots. They also carry plague and a PLETHORA of communicable exoparasites. (fleas, lice, ticks, mites) They are usually covered in their own urine and feces as they have very poor toilet habits (they just go in their burrows) Just keep that in mind if you decide to touch one. I have caught many. I have seen first hand the squirming rabble of tiny bugs that make up the entire surface of their skin like a psychedelic morphing mosaic of multicolored scales and filth.
Filthy filthy members of the squirrel family. If you ever get the plague in north america. 90% It will be either from a Prairie dog, Ground squirrel, or a marmot.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: Mitchnast]
#18723327 - 08/18/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok, The OP is back with an update....
The trap in the original pictures was way too small... So, I went out and got a bigger one -->
The zippo (with shiny colors) is there for scale. It is kind of big, but the box said it was for woodchucks (groundhogs).
I will be monitoring it via my little deer hunting camera -->
I have baited it with cantaloupe, which is apparently their favorite. I took some of the juices from the melon and dripped them around the suspected location of the nest/hole. The giant dark thing on the trip plate is a rock. I put it there because I had it already go in today, eat the bait and walk out, so I felt I should make it easier to trigger.
As to the kill it or don't kill it, I will say this. A trap is a nice way to deal with it because it is simply easier, but not necessarily quickly. Shooting it would be an instant solution, but apparently these things have great hearing and amazing eyesight. One website said they could see better than turkeys (turkeys have damn good eyes)
Let me know what ya'll think and any suggestions.
Cheers!
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: rew736]
#18723549 - 08/18/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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damn don't you hate that--set that trigger a little lighter and/or put the bait further back in the cage like not on the pan if that's what you did--good luck--I got that same cage BTW and the double door squirrel trap-----I mean like make sure that shaft is even on both sides and kindof offset those two "hands" instead of making them exactly even--know what I mean??
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#18724085 - 08/18/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know what you mean. Right now I have it set at the very tip of hooks holding the gate open. I only attached one, because I think the receipt from the store said it was a coyote trap. 
Oh well... I moved it so it is perpendicular to the camera so I can get you all better pictures... Only have enough cantaloupe for one -maybe- two days.
Cheers!
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: rew736]
#18724519 - 08/18/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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1 or 2 days huh---guess little fella done done a number on ya huh??
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#18725828 - 08/19/13 02:24 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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just give it up 1234 is just a "save the planet, kill yourself" kind of person, no cure  think of it this way if a huge bear is about to eat your face off unless you blow him to bits would you die to the bear? same diff with your garden and vermin (if you depended on it for survival) got to learn to keep their hands off your shit theres a reason most animals are scared of people its because we've been killing them since the beginning
 dont get me wrong i care about the ethical treatment of animals ever see those chiken holocaust houses? total darkness elbow to elbow raised in their own filth go protest that but let the man shoot the vermin off his damn garden and keep your mouth shut somone lock this topic cause it is off 
sorry to get all pissy its mostly in humor but those kind of people just strike a cord in me, reason i wont talk to poc anymore cause he's like that too :P
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: pen15]
#18725885 - 08/19/13 03:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Chill pen15.
Thread stays open, it could help others and I'd like to see some more pictures. People can also express their opinions so long as it's within the rules and not too off topic.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: pen15]
#18726120 - 08/19/13 06:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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read through the thread dumbass--you know before you get all pissy
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: pen15]
#18726294 - 08/19/13 07:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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pen15 said: just give it up 1234 is just a "save the planet, kill yourself" kind of person, no cure  think of it this way if a huge bear is about to eat your face off unless you blow him to bits would you die to the bear? same diff with your garden and vermin (if you depended on it for survival) got to learn to keep their hands off your shit theres a reason most animals are scared of people its because we've been killing them since the beginning dont get me wrong i care about the ethical treatment of animals ever see those chiken holocaust houses? total darkness elbow to elbow raised in their own filth go protest that but let the man shoot the vermin off his damn garden and keep your mouth shut somone lock this topic cause it is off 
sorry to get all pissy its mostly in humor but those kind of people just strike a cord in me, reason i wont talk to poc anymore cause he's like that too :P
I expressed myself, gave some info that may or may not be helpful to different individuals and went about my business. 
All you have is your personal angst for "those kinda people" - Seems like you're only attempting to win a crowd. Relax dude.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: 1234go]
#18726307 - 08/19/13 07:40 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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neener neener--lol
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? *DELETED* [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#18731180 - 08/20/13 07:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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malicom- look up which species of birds in your area are invasive. Chances are that if you live in an urban area, the birds eating your fruit are european starlings, rock doves, eurasian collared doves, and european sparrows. All of these species are invasive and easily killed with an air pistol. The doves are quite edible.
Or you could just put a net over your grape vines.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? *DELETED* [Re: SmOakland]
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Groundhog for sure! And their good eats!
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: Suchness]
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Yep. I think it is safe to say groundhog. I got a couple of frames of it vandalizing my garden and walking into the trap, eating the bait and then leaving, but it is in a container file that can only be opened with the proprietary software made by the hunting camera company. I am going on a shopping spree and getting either an air rifle or just a .22. Any suggestions? I tried to sneak up on it once, the moment i scratched the itch on my nose, the think flew into it's hole like lightning. The thing is almost too good for its own sake...
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: rew736]
#18732418 - 08/20/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you know where its hole is, run a hose over to it, and he'll come out as soon as you start filling his hole up. When he does, trap him. Put a cage over his hole so when he pops out, he's caught.

Then you can release him elsewhere, or make BBQ. As for the gun, a 22 is better than a bb gun. The bb gun will just piss him off.
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Well when you mean bb gun do you mean airsoft or like lead pellet/ metal bb. A friend of mine has a 1000fps airgun that shoots lead pellets and they have gone though a metal bucket...
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: rew736]
#18732463 - 08/20/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow nice. BB gun is what i think of when you say air rifle. Perhaps my take on this is a little dated.
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A good .22 will actually be cheaper than a good air rifle. I have a marlin-xt because I like bolt actions. If you want a semi-auto get a Ruger 10/22. I would not recommend the Mossberg 702s- my friend has one and it is a piece of shit. Mossberg also has shit-ass customer service. Also why not just throw some extra $ for something made in the USA?
Edit: I double checked and .22s are slightly more expensive than air rifles. I don't think it would be humane to try to kill anything bigger than a dove with one though.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: SmOakland]
#18732975 - 08/20/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I may indeed go shopping. I suppose I will get a .22. I also have always had a fancy to get a 1911 .45 ACP. Anyone know the rules/laws/hoops I need to jump though...
-------------------- My trade list malicom said: "Banana's emit radiation. In fact banannas are the standard in detecting solar radiation. The radiation read from a bananna tells scientists how active the sun was during the growing season. Make sure to steer clear of bananas too." seekaytea said: "I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin." Wiccan_Seeker said: "Your knowledge on male-on-male rape and willingness to engage in fantasy regarding the matter is commendable." eminemvs.slimshady said: "I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?"
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: rew736]
#18734039 - 08/20/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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rew736 said: I may indeed go shopping. I suppose I will get a .22. I also have always had a fancy to get a 1911 .45 ACP. Anyone know the rules/laws/hoops I need to jump though...
If you are really in New York then I would not bother. If you really want one, then I would start doing extensive research. 1911s are not very good guns (in terms of reliability) unless you buy a nice one ($1500+), and I don't know if any decent companies make New York compliant ones (Kimber, Nighthawk, Colt). Any full size semi-automatic handgun available in New York is going to be a bastardized piece of shit version of those available in more free states, and will therefore not retain the resale value that other guns would. If I lived in New York or some other anti-constitution state, I would just buy a revolver. You can mount a scope on the revolver for hunting. Smith and Wesson makes the best revolvers (IMO), but they are not necessarily the best value.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: SmOakland]
#18734084 - 08/20/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dont know where you guys sit philosophically.
Here is my take on it. Ill only kill an animal if it threatens me, or if i need to eat it.
The exception to the rule is euthanasia for suffering pets.
If you have no intention of eating it, live trapping and releasing elsewhere would be more humane.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: SmOakland]
#18734086 - 08/20/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, I also am considering moving because nanny bloomberg and all the imbeciles here drive me NUTS. As far as the 1911 goes, I don't mind paying a lot to get a solid reliable gun. A firearm is like a car. If it don't work perfectly yer screwed when you need it. Can you recommend any place? And a "nice" 1911 manufacturer/model.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: rew736]
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malicom said: Here is my take on it. Ill only kill an animal if it threatens me, or if i need to eat it.
Nobody in the United States "needs" to eat animals.
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malicom said: If you have no intention of eating it, live trapping and releasing elsewhere would be more humane.
As discussed earlier, capture-relocate-release is not in any way shape or form more humane.
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I would go down to the local gun store (if there are any left up there) and discuss the situation with the people working there. As I said above (I may have not been very clear), there may not be such a thing as a "nice" 1911 that is legal to own/buy in New York. You need a license to purchase any handgun in New York, and you can only purchase shitty semi-auto handguns. I don't think that there is any website that bothers to stock semi-auto handguns that are legal in New York.
Move down here to Louisiana. You can buy all the e-cigs, guns, $3.50 packs of smokes, and 32 oz. sodas that you can afford.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: SmOakland]
#18734183 - 08/20/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I love my marlin .22 bolt. If you wanna fun gun get the 10/22 its probably the most customizable rifle out there, u can get thousands of parts to make it look/act like tons of guns.
U should b able to pick up a barely used bolt .22 for a hundred bucksish and a 10/22 for $150 - $250 depending on the kit/options.
Foir a .22lr scope I like my bsa .22 3-9x32mm
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: nuentoter]
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nuentoter said: I love my marlin .22 bolt.
Word. I was very impressed with the quality of the Marlin. It exceeded my expectations (I got it online.) I like it more than the 10/22 but as you said the Ruger does have more after market parts than just about any other gun (besides maybe an AR-15.)
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: SmOakland]
#18734650 - 08/20/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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SmOakland said: As discussed earlier, capture-relocate-release is not in any way shape or form more humane. .
While trapping/relocating has it's negatives (orphaned babies, introduction to new territory etc) It is definitely more humane if you're other choice is killing it. Period. It's beyond me how this is trying to be justified. Silly almost. There are a lot of state laws & regulations against it, if that's what ya'll are going by. Sheesh. Everyone is entitled to opinion, however. Carry on.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: 1234go]
#18736019 - 08/21/13 05:50 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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1234go said: Our gardens aren't our lifelines anymore, we all still have our cabinets jam packed with food do we not?
My Cabinets have nothing but dry rice, beans and condements.
My Garden Is Extrordinarily Important to me. It Is the ONLY place I can find food that I know Is Natural,and Additive Free, The only place I can find Medicine I KNOW is Clean, and Potent. We Litterally Become what we eat. So My diet Is one of the most vital Things in my life. Regardless of that fact. The Lives alone of my plants are more valuable to me than of most any animal.
Any Herbavore In My Garden Will Die a swift painless death 
Reasonably sized Intrudes will be Eaten. 
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Nobody in the United States "needs" to eat animals.
With that Logic Nobody needs to eat plants either,
The Eskimos eat almost strictly fish & meat
This chick only eats meat, Shes not alone
http://girlgoneprimal.blogspot.com/2009/07/carnivore-question-from-comments.html
Honestly I would kill an Animal Before I killed A plant I have always valued the lives of plants above animals.
Every step we take, Every move we make, We are killing Hundreds of living things. All of whom arguably Have a will to live. So Accepting this fact I do what I can To Take Life only as Necissary, Spare life as often as possible. As These Things are all Beautiful and have no less a will to live than I.
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If I had to survive on what my garden provided, i'd be front and center protecting it too. Eating what the land provides (eskimos fall here) is true nature, plants and animals both.
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applesmasher420 said: As These Things are all Beautiful and have no less a will to live than I. Honestly I would kill an Animal Before I killed A plant I have always valued the lives of plants above animals.
I was taking you seriously until i read this contradiction. I suppose animals have less of a will than plants?
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applesmasher420 said: With that Logic Nobody needs to eat plants either
Ha...okay. Sure some people survive solely on junk from the stores. But as you said we literally become what we eat, that's where eating wisely and responsibly comes into play. Harvesting a sustainable amount of plants and animals for survival and not to throw nature any further off balance.
Excusing myself from this thread i guess, there won't be any winners. Bless ya'll.
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Re: What rodent is this!?!? [Re: 1234go]
#18751400 - 08/24/13 12:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry, what I meant Is that I see plants and animals with equal will to live. Personally I just like plants more :p
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