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favorite technique for breakthrough
    #18708268 - 08/15/13 08:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I've only had the chance to try the sandwich method with semi success

I have been able to achieve a feeling of melting through reality and a buzzing

Also I heard faint cheering of a crowd that really tripped me out.

I can't seem to totally blast off though even though having had some interesting experiences with it. Any suggestions? Got around 120mg right now and want to hear some of the lesser known techniques.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18711470 - 08/15/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You COULD try this way:

Make a raised surface that you could put tin foil on top of. Make sure you can put a lighter below the tin foil.

Put the DMT on top of the tin foil.

Put a lighter (close enough to vaporize it) underneath the DMT area, and suck in the smoke with a straw.

As for the success of this, I am not sure. This method was explained to me a while ago.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18711561 - 08/15/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I see what you're saying, I've done something similar with hash, but I want to be able to take one gigantic hit and be blasted.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: Agentchewy] * 1
    #18711582 - 08/15/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Try a gravity bong?


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18711606 - 08/15/13 09:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Back when i had some deemsterz... we used a torch lighter to heat up the end of a chillum.  A chillum is a like a steam roller but the bowl is where you'd put your finger for the carb hole on the steam roller.

and then we'd clump up a good size amount of goodies and drop it on the hot bowl while someone inhales....its like a dab...now i have a rig.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: mshaw21]
    #18711612 - 08/15/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I like the hot bowl idea, might as well buy an oil burner.

It gets so intense after the second hit with the sandwich method that I can barely see around me haha but I know I'm not "there" yet


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18711647 - 08/15/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Just gotta man up and rip it again and again and again


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: mshaw21]
    #18711662 - 08/15/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Meth pipes are good but i always wasted dmt on my first times trying the meth pipe, the sandwich method i actually like, because the top layer of weed is protecting the dmt from getting direct heat and as the crystals melt it melts into the bottom layer, And so much smoother for me imo. I've never had a problem breaking through with the sandwich method! Good vibes to you!


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18712051 - 08/15/13 10:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Try a gravity bong?




This is the only way i smoke dmt. Put all 120mg in it (maybe 60 is enough).

DONT FORGET! HOLD THAT SHIT IN AS LONG AS YOU FUCKING CAN. and i mean AS LONG AS YOU FUCKING CAN!!!!!!!

Did i mention: HOLD IT IN AS LONG AS YOU FUCKING CAN!!!!!!!

It takes 3 full lung hits held in for 40 seconds each to reach a breakthrough ime.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: underfliptown]
    #18712059 - 08/15/13 10:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

lol and the 3rd hit is exceptionally hard to brew considering you're already tripping.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: underfliptown]
    #18712061 - 08/15/13 10:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Try a gravity bong?




This is the only way i smoke dmt. Put all 120mg in it (maybe 60 is enough).

DONT FORGET! HOLD THAT SHIT IN AS LONG AS YOU FUCKING CAN. and i mean AS LONG AS YOU FUCKING CAN!!!!!!!

Did i mention: HOLD IT IN AS LONG AS YOU FUCKING CAN!!!!!!!

It takes 3 full lung hits held in for 40 seconds each to reach a breakthrough ime.




do you only take one hit or multiple hits? jc


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: mshaw21]
    #18712087 - 08/15/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

3 hits held in for 40 seconds each. It's clockwork.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: underfliptown]
    #18712159 - 08/15/13 11:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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3 hits held in for 40 seconds each. It's clockwork.




So 3 gravity hits as in, up and down three times?

or

One large hit smoked...then you inhale off that three times?


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: mshaw21]
    #18712210 - 08/15/13 11:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

^ valid question


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: mshaw21]
    #18712226 - 08/15/13 11:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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3 hits held in for 40 seconds each. It's clockwork.




So 3 gravity hits as in, up and down three times?

or

One large hit smoked...then you inhale off that three times?




Sorry I should have been more clear.

up and down 3 times. I usually smoke about 50-70mg. Although I have gone as high as 150. But 150 can change your life forever lol... Becoming god is nothing to scoff at.

Also i sandwich in weed usually. Or ash. Depends how i am feeling.


If it is your 1st time even 30mg might be a good place to start. And trust me by the time you are brewing that 3rd bucket you are already going to be turned into a lizard person so it takes a lot of work and hand eye coordination.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: underfliptown]
    #18712272 - 08/15/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Lol, that would be pretty funny to watch.

*Reptile person* "Onneee, moo... Hit..." *drops DMT in water* "Ohh no..."

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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18712277 - 08/15/13 11:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

...lol its happened.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: underfliptown]
    #18712293 - 08/15/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

XD I bet.

Have you ever came out of a trip wanting to go back right away?


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18712304 - 08/15/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I have, and i did. The longest I have tripped on dmt is a couple hours. Eventually you just black out though.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: underfliptown]
    #18712312 - 08/15/13 11:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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3 hits held in for 40 seconds each. It's clockwork.




So 3 gravity hits as in, up and down three times?

or

One large hit smoked...then you inhale off that three times?




Sorry I should have been more clear.

up and down 3 times. I usually smoke about 50-70mg. Although I have gone as high as 150. But 150 can change your life forever lol... Becoming god is nothing to scoff at.

Also i sandwich in weed usually. Or ash. Depends how i am feeling.


If it is your 1st time even 30mg might be a good place to start. And trust me by the time you are brewing that 3rd bucket you are already going to be turned into a lizard person so it takes a lot of work and hand eye coordination.




By that point, I'm not sure if I would be able to get off that third hit....you can still keep enough coordination?  Maybe i can inhale more because two large hits using the sandwich method for me gets me  :mindexpanding:
I always take a small little hit to "fry" the nugs on top before i take my two hits!

But as I said before...the rig method is awesome or light a bowl to where its glowing red...if you have the proper glass.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18712314 - 08/15/13 11:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Changa in a bong, or if just plain ole dmt, 3 screens on the bottom, a layer of ash rubbed into it, a small amount of passion flower or another type of herb besides weed, than a pile of deemsters, another thin layer of herb of some sort on top, corner the bowl and get a good start on it. RIP IT ALL and cash it. Hold in for 30-40 seconds and your gone as soon as you start exhaling.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: mshaw21]
    #18712315 - 08/15/13 11:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It's not easy man, but if you can manage lighting your bowl when your walls are turning into fractal neon then you really get the good shit.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: underfliptown]
    #18712354 - 08/15/13 11:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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It's not easy man, but if you can manage lighting your bowl when your walls are turning into fractal neon then you really get the good shit.




yeah I'll never forget the first time i smoked it.

with no respect :smbfacepalm: i smoked it mid day in the back of my car with my friend who made some....i hit it twice using the sandwich method and i immediatly said whoa every thing had fractals morphing on them and he made me look at him and he said "yeahh you got it" and i closed my eyes...it was amazing although i didnt blast off that time:shrug:


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: underfliptown]
    #18712370 - 08/15/13 11:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I just make a sandwich with weed in the bong, milk it real slow so as not to burn it, clear it all in one, and hold that shit in.
I noticed I wasn't holding it in long enough, and was surprised to see how much different it was when I held the hit for as long as I could.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #18712378 - 08/15/13 11:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

well it takes time to hit you man. I wasted SOOOOO much dmt sharing with ppl who didn't do it right... I just don't share it now, fuck wasteful ppl who don't listen.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: underfliptown]
    #18712382 - 08/15/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Underfliptown, is there a reason why you chose THAT signature?


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18712389 - 08/15/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

haha because its trippy as fuck. I like the backstory behind the scene too. Gene Wilder just improved the whole insane speech. my favorite part is when veruca salts father says: WHAT IS THIS SOME KIND OF FREAK OUT!?

I also really like the oompa loompa in the background.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: underfliptown]
    #18712395 - 08/15/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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well it takes time to hit you man. I wasted SOOOOO much dmt sharing with ppl who didn't do it right... I just don't share it now, fuck wasteful ppl who don't listen.



I feel ya on that man. I went through almost 7 grams completely wasted for that reason. And people act like crack heads over it, until they break through. Made me think most of the people I shared it with were avoiding a breakthrough just to get a buzz at the expense of my own generosity. And that was before MHRB was so damn expensive.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: underfliptown]
    #18712404 - 08/15/13 11:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Ahhh hahaha.

I've only seen the movie once, probably gonna add it on my watch list.

And that's too bad. If I was with you, I would hit it the right way. As long as you would teach me :bow2:

For my first experience, I WILL breakthrough. Thats the point right?


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18712444 - 08/16/13 12:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Thats the point man. You got it figured out man.

lol I am no dmt guru man. I abused the fuck out of it. I just hve the convinenence of heinsight.


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hahaha thats way too many "mans" for one post.


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    #18712500 - 08/16/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Whats the scariest thing you've ever seen on a DMT trip?


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    #18712591 - 08/16/13 12:47 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Beyond the hallucinations. I cannot describe it.


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    #18712637 - 08/16/13 01:02 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Ah....


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18712656 - 08/16/13 01:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

lol sorry man if i was to try and describe it its like becoming both 2d and 4d at once, then melting into every person who ever has will and is existing. Then travelling through my dna back to the oringinal source of life.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18712739 - 08/16/13 01:33 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I can't seem to totally blast off though even though having had some interesting experiences with it. Any suggestions? Got around 120mg right now and want to hear some of the lesser known techniques.





I suggest using a reversible inhibitor of monoamine oxidase (RIMA) such as syrian rue or banisteriopsis caapi, then smoking your dmt.


I have made a tea with syrian rue seeds, as well as smoked them, before smoking the dmt using a sandwich method in a normal weed pipe (between either cannabis or mullein leaf).


I almost prefer to only smoke DMT with an inhibitor involved now.



The effects came on noticeably slower. I usually start feeling it 1/2 way into taking the first hit/lung full, with syrian rue I'm not getting there until a brief moment after exhaling. So this allows more time to get that one extra hit in if needed, as well as potentiating and prolonging the experience.

It seems to slow the experience down in general, allows me to take things in and process what's happening a lot easier. Instead of a quick and jarring launch, it's like a smooth progressively stronger pull. It just slows and smooths everything out. A slower come up, longer peak, and much slower come down, all the while it's more intense and provides an interesting layer/aspect that isn't there with dmt alone.


The first time I smoked some after making the tea I was honestly a little caught off guard (especially since it initially came on much slower than I was used to)....and the effects lasted much longer than my prior experiences with no inhibitor involved.


Smoking the seeds before was noticeably effective. But making a tea with 2g to 4g of seeds drank 40 to 60 minute before smoking is the way to go.


....also, the syrian rue kinda takes the edgy & jittery anxiety that some might experience before smoking. I've always been pretty calm before smoking it, but with the rue involved I'm super calm and relaxed, already in a somewhat stoned/psychedelic head space. It's a nice state of mind lift out of and come back into.





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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: underfliptown]
    #18714879 - 08/16/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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lol sorry man if i was to try and describe it its like becoming both 2d and 4d at once, then melting into every person who ever has will and is existing. Then travelling through my dna back to the oringinal source of life.




Honestly it doesn't sound too bad from over here, were you just not ready for that yet?


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18714962 - 08/16/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like I could theoretically take it all in one hit if my lungs cooperate


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18715047 - 08/16/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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lol sorry man if i was to try and describe it its like becoming both 2d and 4d at once, then melting into every person who ever has will and is existing. Then travelling through my dna back to the oringinal source of life.




Honestly it doesn't sound too bad from over here, were you just not ready for that yet?




lol well it wasn't bad. But part of becoming everything is becoming the worst experience ever as well.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: underfliptown]
    #18715064 - 08/16/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Haha becoming the darkness and the light


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    #18715070 - 08/16/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You got it man.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: underfliptown]
    #18715075 - 08/16/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

What's your opinion on astral projection?


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18715084 - 08/16/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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What's your opinion on astral projection?




Honestly I don't think it is possible.

Having said that, the reason I don't think it is possible is because of the way society conditions us. Our brains are able to do things that people can not even imagine. Let me rephrase: it is not possible for the average person. It takes a lot of work to get there and the average person doesn't even know where to start. I think this is reserved for people who are willing to really commit to it.

To be fair though I have not done a lot of research on it. What are the main techniques used to achieve this state?


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: underfliptown]
    #18715112 - 08/16/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

No, I think it is possible. There are a lot of people that can do it, even in the United States.

It does take a lot of practice for the average person, and I have tried for a long time myself. But ome people are just born with it.

There are a lot of techniques, I've only tried two. You can achieve it through sleep paralysis.

The technique is to go to bed at a decent time, wake up at 4 am, stay awake for a few minutes, lay down and stay conscious while your body enters sleep paralysis. If you get that far, you wait even longer. You will feel vibrations, or a loud ringing in your ears.. And then you move out of your body.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18715125 - 08/16/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Wow man that's weird because some times i wake up in the morning and before opening my eyes i get dmt like visuals until I open my eyes. I wonder if this is connected at all.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: underfliptown]
    #18715156 - 08/16/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I think it is. You should google around about it


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18715159 - 08/16/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i definitely have some research to do.


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: underfliptown]
    #18715162 - 08/16/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I should have took that third toke


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Re: favorite technique for breakthrough [Re: underfliptown]
    #18715165 - 08/16/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

That's another one of the reasons why I wanted to do it in the first place. Because I heard about reaching that level through dreams.


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