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Re: Near-death experiences are 'electrical surge in dying brain [Re: dokunai]
    #18703014 - 08/14/13 04:11 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Disagree all you want but much scientific research that has used rats as tests subjects has produced useful drugs to be used on humans. There are a lot of similarities, but no it's not entirely similar.

Using rats in research is common in science so I think you'd be disagreeing with a lot of people by saying research done using rats doesn't provide useful information into understanding our own biology.

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Re: Near-death experiences are 'electrical surge in dying brain [Re: Mycjunky]
    #18704349 - 08/14/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

God is drugs.


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My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

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Re: Near-death experiences are 'electrical surge in dying brain [Re: greencrush420]
    #18704423 - 08/14/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Manic626 said:
see guys, science just proved there is no afterlife, its all in your head






:facepalm:



Learn to read.


"My mother called me 'her little genius' therefore, it's safe to say I'm smarter than Albert Einstein, therefore, I believe I am actually the inventor of the theory of general relativity"


^^^^  This is the kind of logical leap you just employed.


Don't hurt your head on that analogy.





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greencrush420 said:
Also, DMT is released into the bloodstream of pregnant mothers, by their brain, at around 46 days into the pregnancy. So, there is a correlation between DMT and the beginning of life in humans,






Can you share with us where you got this information? I was under the impression this was only hypothetical at this point, and there wasn't any proof yet. If you have any info, I'd love to see it.





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greencrush420 said:
and we know there is a correlation between DMT and the end of life in rats





Do we know this?  I thought it was only shown that DMT was found in the rat pineal, and it was the "DMT is formed in the pineal" theory that had some minor evidence going for it, not the "DMT is released upon death" theory, which I thought was still unproven speculation.

Again, if you have solid info otherwise, I'd love to see it. But as far as I know, it is still hugely unproven that DMT is released upon death, in any species-- and it's still technically unproven that DMT is formed in the pineal. If I'm remembering correctly, the study with the rats does prove that DMT can be found in the pineal of rats-- which is a step in the right direction toward possibly proving Strassman's hypothesis-- but it did not outright prove it.



If you wanted to put some of these ideas to the test-- perhaps give some rats large doses of DMT, record their brain activity, then compare it to the data from this study.


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Re: Near-death experiences are 'electrical surge in dying brain [Re: Manic626]
    #18704432 - 08/14/13 01:14 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Manic626 said:
see guys, science just proved there is no afterlife, its all in your head



Just because near-death experiences can be explained scientifically does not mean there is no afterlife. If you can explain to me how the first spec of matter/energy that started the big bang came to be then I may begin to believe there is no afterlife.

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