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"More than 4.5 million people in the U.S. are addicted to marijuana..."
    #18698577 - 08/13/13 05:39 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

This is the most ridiculous article I have come across in a while. What happened to fucking factual research and reporting?

http://theadvocate.com/features/people/6607766-123/high-anxiety

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Re: "More than 4.5 million people in the U.S. are addicted to marijuana..." [Re: glowing]
    #18698603 - 08/13/13 06:02 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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What happened to fucking factual research and reporting?




What happened to posting in accordance with forum rules?

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Copy and paste the news article in a new thread and include the link to the source.




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Re: "More than 4.5 million people in the U.S. are addicted to marijuana..." [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #18698645 - 08/13/13 06:30 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

As the the marijuana prohibitionists cling to the old ways and attempt to hold their ground we are going to see a shitload more articles and tv shows in this vein.

I'm very skeptical of this whole marijauna addiction thing.


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Re: "More than 4.5 million people in the U.S. are addicted to marijuana..." [Re: lowbrow]
    #18698693 - 08/13/13 07:02 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

It is easy to get addicted to any drug

And the type of drug is not as important as the type of person using the drug

Wasn't easy for me to quit the weed i.e., I still miss it 2 years later often

Cigs aren't easy to quit either (but I never smoked regular cigs)

I would imagine anything that makes you feel as good as cigs or weed to be addictive..
cigs, or weed, both are addictive IMO

Does it being addictive mean we should ban it? NO

Alcohol,cigs are pretty addictive too, about the same as weed I would say

seen many people become addicted to both alcohol,cigs,weed , they can't just stop

it is possible to become addicted to almost anything if you do it everyday for years....
chocolate,food,sex,... :-) and you can't just stop, the body wants it

so weed is probably as addictive as other things you do everyday

it's not the drugs fault, the fault lies with the persons abusing it

I personally cannot smoke every week or it's back to everyday quickly

weed is easy to start smoking everyday, but that doens't mean they should ban it IMO (it's a natural plant, scheduling it is ridiculous)

people need to learn some personal strength in their lives, even though it is hard

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also there is no problem with people being addicted to cigs or weed, as long as they pay their taxes
they are probably more prone to pay their taxes if they can smoke where and when they want

now when they have banned smoking, smokers have to go outside the buildings, and away from the ground too often
they probably forgot that most of the working class is smokers, only the new generation doesn't smoke as much
they should make laws that respect smokers

smokers are usually addicts, whether it is cigs or weed
but they can usually still function and work for years without problem :-)
the new laws are a big problem, banning smoking does no good compared to the harmful effects on productivity

the state should urge people to smoke if they want, for personal freedom
smoke, make your contribution, go a little early, but have fun in the meantime

I think the smoking ban decreases productivity(maybe more than we realize), seen it in a few workplaces
I don't mind a little smoke even though I don't smoke

Edited by lessismore (08/13/13 07:41 AM)

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Re: "More than 4.5 million people in the U.S. are addicted to marijuana..." [Re: lessismore]
    #18698711 - 08/13/13 07:19 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

You know what's a bitch to get over? Alcohol. Seriously. I'm not an addict and I never was, but I've tried to stop drinking alcohol as part of improving my health, and it is extremely difficult to drop it completely. I don't get drunk anymore, but I'm more talking about the occasional mixed drink or a few beers or a glass of wine. It's just damned difficult. But with marijuana, well, I smoked relatively frequently for maybe a year and I have absolutely no compulsion to do it again. None whatsoever. It just has no pull. I can't count how many times I've turned it down.

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Re: "More than 4.5 million people in the U.S. are addicted to marijuana..." [Re: un-known-ome]
    #18698822 - 08/13/13 08:15 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

People with anxiety disorders have much higher rate of marijuana addiction, according to LSU professor

BY ELLYN COUVILLION
ecouvillion@theadvocate.com
August 12, 2013

More than 4.5 million people in the U.S. are addicted to marijuana, and LSU professor Julia Buckner says her research shows that if you have social anxiety, you are seven times more likely to join those ranks.

According to a 2010 survey by the U.S. Department of Health and Hospitals, the number of people addicted to marijuana is almost as large as the number of people who struggle with addiction to all other illicit substances combined. A subset of those pot smokers also struggle with anxiety disorders like social anxiety.

“People with anxiety disorders have much, much higher rates (of addiction) than you would expect,” said Buckner who is also director of the university’s Anxiety and Addictive Behaviors Clinic.

Through new research she launched this summer, Buckner hopes to develop treatment that both addresses marijuana addiction and helps people manage anxiety of all types.

“We’re not judging the fact that they use (but looking at) what about their (marijuana) use is causing them problems and how can we help them avoid that,” Buckner said.

She’s looking for participants for the study who are between the ages of 18 and 65, experience daily anxiety and want to quit smoking pot. All participation in the study is confidential and protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act.

Funded by the National Institute of Drug Abuse, the study incorporates cognitive behavior to find new, better ways to deal with anxiety-causing situations.

The participants meet in small groups of four to five people several times a week for up to 12 weeks. The meetings are led by two graduate students under Buckner’s supervision.

“It’s been very positive so far,” Buckner said.

Among the things the groups look at are what are called “false safety aids” — activities people do to feel “safe,” but that actually maintain their anxiety.

“We look at marijuana use as a false safety aid,” said Buckner, whose colleague in the research is Michael Zvolensky, of the University of Houston, an expert on the relationship between anxiety and substance abuse.

The researchers are also consulting with Kathleen Carroll, a professor of psychiatry at Yale School of Medicine.

Addiction to marijuana can disrupt a person’s life in many ways.

“It interferes with people going to work,” said Buckner. “They don’t have the motivation to go to work or to go to class.”

The addiction can cause problems with partners, family members and friends.

People addicted to pot are “smoking instead of doing other activities they used to enjoy,” Buckner said.

Buckner and her colleagues are writing a treatment manual, with the goal of publishing it.

To learn more about the study at LSU, contact the LSU Anxiety and Addictive Behaviors Clinic at (225) 578-5778 or email aabc@lsu.edu.


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Re: "More than 4.5 million people in the U.S. are addicted to marijuana..." [Re: glowing]
    #18699853 - 08/13/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

:rolleyes:


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Re: "More than 4.5 million people in the U.S. are addicted to marijuana..." [Re: elgatogordo]
    #18699884 - 08/13/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

don't know about all that ??
yes some people may just sit around and smoke but i like to do things while highand so do most stoners i am freinds with
and social anxiety is a problem weed can help with trust me ive seen it first hand. but it can also make problems worse it really just depends on the person and how they use it


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Re: "More than 4.5 million people in the U.S. are addicted to marijuana..." [Re: lighthouse09]
    #18700565 - 08/13/13 05:37 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

whats even worse than my marijuana addiction is becoming even more addicted to that super potent new marijuana, hydro or whatever its called.  Ive hit rock bottom. :sad:

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Re: "More than 4.5 million people in the U.S. are addicted to marijuana..." [Re: Ogla]
    #18700603 - 08/13/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Does anyone remember the scene from Terminator 2 where the T1000 is defeated?  He falls into the molten steel and throws a fit while trying to get out.  He turns into all the past forms he had used to see if any of them will save his ass and get him out of the lava.  That's exactly what we're seeing from today's drug warriors.

I think we are going to see increasingly vicious attacks and ad hominem propaganda against marijuana users as those deeply invested in prohibition attempt to maintain the status quo.  Just like the T1000.  Let's try reefer madness again... ok that's not working, how about "this is your brain on drugs," then?  Damn that didn't work, let's talk about how potent pot is now.  Wait, that means you smoke less and reduce harms from smoking?  Well then, let's try using new research about lost IQ points... and on, and on.  The prohibitionists have years of their lives and massive amounts of dollars invested in this war.  Don't expect them to give up easily.

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Re: "More than 4.5 million people in the U.S. are addicted to marijuana..." [Re: Ogla]
    #18701640 - 08/13/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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whats even worse than my marijuana addiction is becoming even more addicted to that super potent new marijuana, hydro or whatever its called.  Ive hit rock bottom. :sad:



that hyrdo shit is bad news, man. I'd slowly try to get off the dope. Just lookin out for ya.


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Re: "More than 4.5 million people in the U.S. are addicted to marijuana..." [Re: Absent Minded]
    #18701935 - 08/13/13 10:08 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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whats even worse than my marijuana addiction is becoming even more addicted to that super potent new marijuana, hydro or whatever its called.  Ive hit rock bottom. :sad:



that hyrdo shit is bad news, man. I'd slowly try to get off the dope. Just lookin out for ya.





Its hard bro. Its like i have to do it just to feel normal. If only there was a better way.

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Re: "More than 4.5 million people in the U.S. are addicted to marijuana..." [Re: Ogla]
    #18703371 - 08/14/13 07:50 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Nobody is addicted to marijuana ffs. It doesn't work like that. It's not an addiction. I don't want to rehash the same argument, but by this definition, you can be addicted to anything. I was once "addicted" to working out, and then one day I decided to give it a rest, and that was the end of it. For a while I've masturbated daily, and recently I just decided to stop. Feels amazing, by the way. It must be the testosterone boost or something. But anyway, that's the nature of marijuana "addiction" too, but it's not an addiction. Nobody goes around saying "I NEEEED WEEEEED." Psychedelic drugs aren't addictive in any sense of the word, and for anyone to suggest otherwise is simply bogus. Unless you're defining an addiction as "anything that you feel like you need to do," then of course it could be. I'm addicted to the internet, then, and imagine how many people they could come up with for that statistic. A hundred million people (more) are addicted to the internet!

This is what happens: people start smoking weed, somehow or another, and it somehow becomes readily available to you all the time. Either you can buy it easily, you have friends who smoke frequently, or whatever. Then a second thing happens: you can't find any reason not to light up. It's not that you have to, but you don't have any reason to not do it. Then thirdly, you decide as some point that it is enhancing your life in one way or another, that it's important for you to smoke for whatever reason. And that's it. So the biggest factor is someone's lifestyle. If you have no compelling reason not do something, then you will keep doing it. That's how human beings work. It's basic psychology. With a lot of people, they don't have any reason not to smoke weed, especially because you can smoke weed and pretty much operate at somewhere near full capacity. It's not as if smoking weed causes any reckless behavior, like waking up in a pile of your own vomit with a dead hooker next to you. So what needs to happen is you need to decide that your life can improve if you don't smoke weed, and voila: addiction is over.

Making that decision isn't always that easy though, and you really need to believe it with conviction. For me, I like altering my consciousness, but I like being sober even more. If you really think you're "addicted" to marijuana, you really need to develop some sort of self-loathing. Instant cure. Seriously. There is nothing like loathing yourself when you get high, because it just amplifies that emotion and you'll never want to go back to the bad place again. I don't smoke anymore for a few reasons, but mostly I feel like a piece of shit whenever I do, and that's all it takes. You could argue that I actually have a problem because I can't stand getting high, but on the contrary, I've just conditioned myself to think that way. and reinforced that belief. If weed makes you analyze what you don't like/hate about yourself or your life, make that thing you hate the fact that you're high right now.

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Re: "More than 4.5 million people in the U.S. are addicted to marijuana..." [Re: Ogla]
    #18703480 - 08/14/13 08:48 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Marijuana is Lucifer's devil plant. My uncle was a successful stock broker but then he made the biggest mistake of his life. He had a puff of a marijuana cigarette at a party. He thought it wouldn't hurt. Three weeks later he was dead of a heroin overdose and aids. Marijuana kills

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Re: "More than 4.5 million people in the U.S. are addicted to marijuana..." [Re: un-known-ome]
    #18704207 - 08/14/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

This argument has been had countless times and there will always be divergent views on the subject.

Marijuana is as addictive as cocaine/crack if we are talking about a dependence and not a distinct physical withdrawal.

In fact only benzos, alcohol and opiates really fit into the category of "addiction" if you define it solely as a substance that causes acute physical withdrawal symptoms.

A mental dependence can be just as hard to overcome as a physical addiction. I smoked weed daily for well over 15 years and was desperate to stop for probably at least 10 of those years. The only way I managed to stop was that I was overcome by heroin addiction and wouldn't spend my money on anything but opiates and alcohol.

Pot was slowly phased out purely for financial reasons. I haven't bought any pot in almost a year now and I can say that I don't miss it or think about at all really. I still wish I hadn't wasted such a large chunk of my life getting stoned habitually. It comes down to habituation, the definition of "addiction" is still not widely agreed upon, but there is no doubt that marijuana can get it's hooks into you and make you a slave to it.

Quitting after a long daily habit (5-10+ years) is by no means easy and does cause minor withdrawal symptoms in many people. I go to NA meetings and other group rehab sessions, a lot of the people there attend for marijuana addiction. This is by choice as well, not some court order or other legal requirement. If it was not in any way addictive and was merely a matter of saying "I don't feel like smoking pot anymore" these people would not be taking 3-4 days a week to try and come to terms with their behaviour and addiction.

I won't argue the point any further, but I know there are as many people who will side on either view on the issue if you ask enough users.

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Re: "More than 4.5 million people in the U.S. are addicted to marijuana..." [Re: Fandangle]
    #18707636 - 08/15/13 02:49 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Marijuana is Lucifer's devil plant. My uncle was a successful stock broker but then he made the biggest mistake of his life. He had a puff of a marijuana cigarette at a party. He thought it wouldn't hurt. Three weeks later he was dead of a heroin overdose and aids. Marijuana kills




I think what you said is pretty funny.  :kenthumbup:

That said, I'm surprised we haven't seen an AIDS argument from the anti-MJ people.  I could see it going something like "this study ties promiscuity to MJ use, and promiscuity leads to STDs.  Therefore smoking weed = catch AIDS.  Think of the children!"  Makes about as much sense as any of the other shit they say.

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