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OfflineJCSuperstar
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This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high
    #18682835 - 08/09/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

This guy is wack!!!

http://us.cnn.com/2013/08/09/opinion/samuels-pot-addiction/index.html?hpt=hp_t4

(CNN) -- At first glance, my 11-year-old son seems like your everyday, all-American kid. He loves baseball and basketball, plays Xbox with his friends when they come over, and posts innocuous pictures of the family dog on his Instagram feed. Given these mundane facts about the boy, you can imagine my surprise when, while watching the news (again, seemingly from out of nowhere) he asked me, "If pot is so bad, why are they trying to legalize it?"And, just like that, the long and involved talk my wife and I had given our children about drugs was tossed out the window.We had explained the harmful effects of marijuana. Like cigarettes, smoking marijuana introduces tar, carbon monoxide and cancer-causing agents into your body.Neither my wife nor I anticipated that our son would be stopped on the street by unscrupulous potheads petitioning outside of the local grocery store and being fed a line of rhetoric that went against what we were trying to teach him.
   
      Howard C. SamuelsIt turns out that potheads weren't exactly the problem; they were the symptom. Let me tell you why.If you have a fever and you go to the doctor and he tells you that you have pneumonia, do you ask him to treat the fever, or do you ask him to treat the pneumonia? Most of us would ask him to treat the pneumonia because the pneumonia is the problem; the fever is the symptom.It's the same way with the argument about the legalization of marijuana. I'm not interested in focusing on the symptom; I want to eradicate the problem. And the problem is that we're even considering legalizing marijuana at all.

    Let's take a look at the medical marijuana issue in Los Angeles (where I live) and we can see where legalization takes us. It has been my experience that anyone can get a medical marijuana card in L.A.; all you need is $25-$100 and the ability to lie about needing it. You just make an appointment with some company, walk in and state your problem(s) and why you need a card (with no proof of medical conditions whatsoever) and you will be prescribed a card that is good for one year. It's a toothless system that isn't well-regulated.

    Why are some of the people who petition for legalizing marijuana so passionate about it? Because when you smoke pot, you get loaded. You fry your brain. That's why the patients I see in my treatment center call it "getting baked." Pot is all about getting really high.Now, I have nothing against people who smoke pot. In fact, I believe it is a crime to put someone in prison for smoking pot. Honestly, do we really need some idiot frat boy to get picked up during Mardi Gras for smoking pot and find himself locked in a cage with a monster for six months? Kevin Sabet, a former senior adviser to the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy poses a terrific point when he says that criminal processing for possession of marijuana needs improvement, but legalization is a step too far.

    Marijuana supporters like to argue that marijuana is similar to alcohol. While alcohol is legal, it also accounts for tens of thousands of deaths every year in car accidents or other drinking-related misfortunes. But we can't turn the clock back on that one because it's too embedded in our society.

    Supporters of marijuana say that marijuana should be legalized because old people and women and children who have ailments like glaucoma or cancer or intractable seizures need it.It is painful to watch people suffer. I am not against helping people. In a perfect world, a woman suffering from cancer should be able to get a prescription from her doctor, go to a pharmacy, acquire her medical marijuana, go home and recuperate from her last round of chemotherapy. But we don't live in a perfect world, and you don't need a Ph.D. to see that the spirit of that argument is being exploited by people who aren't using the marijuana for medical reasons at all; they are using it to get high.

    Introducing legalized marijuana into our culture would be like using gasoline to put out a fire, because it stunts growth.Do you know why we don't see potheads out in public? It's because they're sitting at home smoking weed and staring at their television sets or playing video games all day. Do you have any idea how many marijuana addicts I encounter at my rehab on a daily basis? They talk about wanting to be productive. But what pot does is it kills their motivation -- it destroys people's ability to go out and work and to have a career. It makes them want to do nothing but lie around all day. Is that what you want for your children? Is that what you want for your loved ones?

    And how do you market marijuana? We have only just now moved into an era where cigarette smoking is commonly known to be harmful, but now advertisers have a new product to sell. Who do you think they're going to market their product to? Not you or me, because we're not stupid enough to believe the lie; we know too much. They're going to follow in the footsteps of the cigarette companies in the 1980s and market this stuff to young people.The very idea of that sickens me.

    I know what marijuana does to the human mind because I started smoking weed when I was 15 years old. It literally robbed me of my motivation to participate in my own life. I was absolutely OK with sitting around all day eating cookies and watching television and getting high with my friends. But, to go out and earn a living and do something with my life? That was all stuff that I was going to do later after I came down off of the marijuana. But, then I'd smoke some more and think, "Why bother?" . . . and, eventually, I started shooting heroin. If my family had not intervened and sought professional help, I would probably still be wandering aimlessly through the streets today; searching for that elusive "perfect high."

    Even if you only stay with marijuana in your repertoire of illicit drugs to abuse, it will never yield positive results. Ever.And, I posit this to marijuana abusers everywhere: Are you really that weak? Are you really that uncomfortable in your own skin that you can't handle living your life or having real experiences without being high? Is it really impossible for you to live life without a drug? Because, if it is, it breaks my heart and I feel sorry for you. Because that's no way to live.And my kid, he's going to know the truth about you. He's going to know that every time you approach him arguing for the legalization of marijuana, what you're really doing is asking him to vote to make it OK for you to spend the rest of your life half-baked on your sofa, too stoned to go out and play with your own kids or do the things you've always dreamed of doing. To my kid, I'm going to say that this means one less competitor on his road to a successful and fulfilling life.

    And, to the potheads who are so passionate about being allowed to smoke their lives away, I have only one thing to say: Dream On.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: JCSuperstar] * 3
    #18682893 - 08/09/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

It's a damn shame when your kids have to grow up and see that you've been lying to him for 11 years.:rolleyes:


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: LuSiD enthusiast] * 1
    #18682895 - 08/09/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Whatever.  Revolution.  Smoke on.  Legalization will happen.  Time tells all truths.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: boneynerd] * 1
    #18682923 - 08/09/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

What a parent? Potheads are the problem?! how dare groups like the AMA & LEAP & NORML....with their peer reviewed studies, informing citizens about the truth of cannabinoids & how vaporizing the oil has no negative health effects. now my kid wont believe his own parents bs rhetoric to a group of informed children his age @ the local grocer!

My generation brought cannabis to light (pun)

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: LuSiD enthusiast] * 1
    #18682925 - 08/09/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Why are some of the people who petition for legalizing marijuana so passionate about it? Because when you smoke pot, you get loaded. You fry your brain.




I so fucking love when people tell that, it always make me laugh so much :lol:

I hope they continue to drink ethanol, one of the rare drug actually damaging the brain :thumbup:

He has so much hate toward people who smoke pot even if he say otherwise, he is full of shit hahahaha

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I have nothing against people who smoke pot. In fact, I believe it is a crime to put someone in prison for smoking pot. Honestly, do we really need some idiot frat boy to get picked up during Mardi Gras for smoking pot and find himself locked in a cage with a monster for six months?




So people who smoke pot = idiot frat boys :retawed:

Not bad for a try

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: Simplepowa] * 1
    #18682943 - 08/09/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

LOLOL

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The very idea of that sickens me. I know what marijuana does to the human mind because I started smoking weed when I was 15 years old. It literally robbed me of my motivation to participate in my own life. I was absolutely OK with sitting around all day eating cookies and watching television and getting high with my friends. But, to go out and earn a living and do something with my life? That was all stuff that I was going to do later after I came down off of the marijuana. But, then I'd smoke some more and think, "Why bother?" . . . and, eventually, I started shooting heroin. If my family had not intervened and sought professional help, I would probably still be wandering aimlessly through the streets today; searching for that elusive "perfect high."




Look at this propaganda. He takes himself as the example that support his rhetoric. 1 case in so many. Good job!

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It literally robbed me of my motivation to participate in my own life.




You were just a lazy fuck.

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But, then I'd smoke some more and think, "Why bother?" . . . and, eventually, I started shooting heroin.




Ah? Oh... :lol: Not this gateway shit again :dontspillme:

Quote:

And, I posit this to marijuana abusers everywhere: Are you really that weak? Are you really that uncomfortable in your own skin that you can't handle living your life or having real experiences without being high? Is it really impossible for you to live life without a drug? Because, if it is, it breaks my heart and I feel sorry for you. Because that's no way to live.




So that's why when you were young you had a consummation problem?

:aweoverdose:

I mean, he brings a concept so much important in human psychology without even knowing it it seems.

People NEVER abuse drugs for nothing. Self medication always hide something. Depression, anxiety, etc.

People are not weak for using. The health of the mind is equally important to the health of the body. There is no separation between the two. The brain is an organ like your skin, or your kidneys. Anyway.

This guys live in another time, when we didn't understand how the whole body works. To label people "weak" because they abuse a chemical, dammit.

:dudewtf:

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And my kid, he's going to know the truth about you. He's going to know that every time you approach him arguing for the legalization of marijuana, what you're really doing is asking him to vote to make it OK for you to spend the rest of your life half-baked on your sofa, too stoned to go out and play with your own kids or do the things you've always dreamed of doing. To my kid, I'm going to say that this means one less competitor on his road to a successful and fulfilling life.




Because everybody that wants legalization is a pothead and everybody that smoke is useless at life.

:billymaythumbup:

That's what I call: not see farther than the tip of your nose.



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Brian Cox - "[One] problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it. The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense."

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #18683021 - 08/09/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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LuSiD enthusiast said:
It's a damn shame when your kids have to grow up and see that you've been lying to him for 11 years.:rolleyes:




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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: Simplepowa]
    #18683028 - 08/09/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Simplepowa said:
LOLOL

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The very idea of that sickens me. I know what marijuana does to the human mind because I started smoking weed when I was 15 years old. It literally robbed me of my motivation to participate in my own life. I was absolutely OK with sitting around all day eating cookies and watching television and getting high with my friends. But, to go out and earn a living and do something with my life? That was all stuff that I was going to do later after I came down off of the marijuana. But, then I'd smoke some more and think, "Why bother?" . . . and, eventually, I started shooting heroin. If my family had not intervened and sought professional help, I would probably still be wandering aimlessly through the streets today; searching for that elusive "perfect high."




Look at this propaganda. He takes himself as the example that support his rhetoric. 1 case in so many. Good job!

Quote:

It literally robbed me of my motivation to participate in my own life.




You were just a lazy fuck.

Quote:

But, then I'd smoke some more and think, "Why bother?" . . . and, eventually, I started shooting heroin.




Ah? Oh... :lol: Not this gateway shit again :dontspillme:

Quote:

And, I posit this to marijuana abusers everywhere: Are you really that weak? Are you really that uncomfortable in your own skin that you can't handle living your life or having real experiences without being high? Is it really impossible for you to live life without a drug? Because, if it is, it breaks my heart and I feel sorry for you. Because that's no way to live.




So that's why when you were young you had a consummation problem?

:aweoverdose:

I mean, he brings a concept so much important in human psychology without even knowing it it seems.

People NEVER abuse drugs for nothing. Self medication always hide something. Depression, anxiety, etc.

People are not weak for using. The health of the mind is equally important to the health of the body. There is no separation between the two. The brain is an organ like your skin, or your kidneys. Anyway.

This guys live in another time, when we didn't understand how the whole body works. To label people "weak" because they abuse a chemical, dammit.

:dudewtf:

and

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And my kid, he's going to know the truth about you. He's going to know that every time you approach him arguing for the legalization of marijuana, what you're really doing is asking him to vote to make it OK for you to spend the rest of your life half-baked on your sofa, too stoned to go out and play with your own kids or do the things you've always dreamed of doing. To my kid, I'm going to say that this means one less competitor on his road to a successful and fulfilling life.




Because everybody that wants legalization is a pothead and everybody that smoke is useless at life.

:billymaythumbup:

That's what I call: not see farther than the tip of your nose.






Fuck yeah man good post:thumbup:


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: JCSuperstar]
    #18683047 - 08/09/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

JCSuperstar said:
. . . and, eventually, I started shooting heroin. If my family had not intervened and sought professional help, I would probably still be wandering aimlessly through the streets today; searching for that elusive "perfect high."





this is golden.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: urbannerd]
    #18683095 - 08/09/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

I think sober people are funny.  They don't realize most problems are a matter of mentality.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: JCSuperstar] * 5
    #18683108 - 08/09/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

The author and his wife are a dying breed. Ignore their tantrums and let them die.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: JCSuperstar] * 3
    #18683187 - 08/09/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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JCSuperstar said:
I know what marijuana does to the human mind because I started smoking weed when I was 15 years old. It literally robbed me of my motivation to participate in my own life. I was absolutely OK with sitting around all day eating cookies and watching television and getting high with my friends. But, to go out and earn a living and do something with my life? That was all stuff that I was going to do later after I came down off of the marijuana. But, then I'd smoke some more and think, "Why bother?" . . . and, eventually, I started shooting heroin.






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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18683274 - 08/09/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

sonamdrukpa said:
Quote:

JCSuperstar said:
I know what marijuana does to the human mind because I started smoking weed when I was 15 years old. It literally robbed me of my motivation to participate in my own life. I was absolutely OK with sitting around all day eating cookies and watching television and getting high with my friends. But, to go out and earn a living and do something with my life? That was all stuff that I was going to do later after I came down off of the marijuana. But, then I'd smoke some more and think, "Why bother?" . . . and, eventually, I started shooting heroin.






:rofl:




HAHAHAHAHA awesome.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: urbannerd]
    #18683485 - 08/09/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

I read the letters "CNN" and knew at that point not to read on...

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: urbannerd]
    #18683552 - 08/09/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Simplepowa said:
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Why are some of the people who petition for legalizing marijuana so passionate about it? Because when you smoke pot, you get loaded. You fry your brain.




I so fucking love when people tell that, it always make me laugh so much :lol:

I hope they continue to drink ethanol, one of the rare drug actually damaging the brain :thumbup:

He has so much hate toward people who smoke pot even if he say otherwise, he is full of shit hahahaha

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I have nothing against people who smoke pot. In fact, I believe it is a crime to put someone in prison for smoking pot. Honestly, do we really need some idiot frat boy to get picked up during Mardi Gras for smoking pot and find himself locked in a cage with a monster for six months?




So people who smoke pot = idiot frat boys :retawed:

Not bad for a
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urbannerd said:
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sonamdrukpa said:
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JCSuperstar said:
I know what marijuana does to the human mind because I started smoking weed when I was 15 years old. It literally robbed me of my motivation to participate in my own life. I was absolutely OK with sitting around all day eating cookies and watching television and getting high with my friends. But, to go out and earn a living and do something with my life? That was all stuff that I was going to do later after I came down off of the marijuana. But, then I'd smoke some more and think, "Why bother?" . . . and, eventually, I started shooting heroin.






:rofl:




HAHAHAHAHA awesome.




It did the same to me
But only because i abused it by smoking everyday

Or every week because then its back to everyday automatically

Dont smoke if your life situation doesnt support it

I know plenty of people who smoke daily with a masters degree
They dont smoke huge amounts though

Dont blame the drug

Everyday use is abuse, then you accept possible risks

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: lessismore]
    #18683578 - 08/09/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Motivation is back after quitting

Psychedelics always motivate me next day , opposite of weed
Weed motivates me to smoke more :wink:

Trip every 4-6 months currently as only drug

Each person reacts differently to every drug

If something makes you happy and the happiness lasts keep doing it
Else quit it, simple

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: Simplepowa]
    #18683735 - 08/09/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Simplepowa said:
LOLOL

Quote:

The very idea of that sickens me. I know what marijuana does to the human mind because I started smoking weed when I was 15 years old. It literally robbed me of my motivation to participate in my own life. I was absolutely OK with sitting around all day eating cookies and watching television and getting high with my friends. But, to go out and earn a living and do something with my life? That was all stuff that I was going to do later after I came down off of the marijuana. But, then I'd smoke some more and think, "Why bother?" . . . and, eventually, I started shooting heroin. If my family had not intervened and sought professional help, I would probably still be wandering aimlessly through the streets today; searching for that elusive "perfect high."




Look at this propaganda. He takes himself as the example that support his rhetoric. 1 case in so many. Good job!

Quote:

It literally robbed me of my motivation to participate in my own life.




You were just a lazy fuck.

Quote:

But, then I'd smoke some more and think, "Why bother?" . . . and, eventually, I started shooting heroin.




Ah? Oh... :lol: Not this gateway shit again :dontspillme:

Quote:

And, I posit this to marijuana abusers everywhere: Are you really that weak? Are you really that uncomfortable in your own skin that you can't handle living your life or having real experiences without being high? Is it really impossible for you to live life without a drug? Because, if it is, it breaks my heart and I feel sorry for you. Because that's no way to live.




So that's why when you were young you had a consummation problem?

:aweoverdose:

I mean, he brings a concept so much important in human psychology without even knowing it it seems.

People NEVER abuse drugs for nothing. Self medication always hide something. Depression, anxiety, etc.

People are not weak for using. The health of the mind is equally important to the health of the body. There is no separation between the two. The brain is an organ like your skin, or your kidneys. Anyway.

This guys live in another time, when we didn't understand how the whole body works. To label people "weak" because they abuse a chemical, dammit.

:dudewtf:

and

Quote:

And my kid, he's going to know the truth about you. He's going to know that every time you approach him arguing for the legalization of marijuana, what you're really doing is asking him to vote to make it OK for you to spend the rest of your life half-baked on your sofa, too stoned to go out and play with your own kids or do the things you've always dreamed of doing. To my kid, I'm going to say that this means one less competitor on his road to a successful and fulfilling life.




Because everybody that wants legalization is a pothead and everybody that smoke is useless at life.
:billymaythumbup:That's what I call: not see farther than the tip of your nose.





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    #18683742 - 08/09/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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    #18683759 - 08/09/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Invent a job where people sit on their ass all day smoking weed eating cookies. Genius.. :laugh:


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    #18683764 - 08/09/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Yup I've always been lazy, the king of procrastination,always do everything in last second through my whole life, bad habit :-)

So weed wasn't a good idea for me everyday , I don't blame it

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    #18683777 - 08/09/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah. So every pothead sits at home lazy as fuck smoking weed? That's what you're saying? JUST BECAUSE IT HAPPENED TO YOU DOESN'T MEAN IT HAPPENS TO EVERYONE. Seriously if you're that lazy that you can't function high. Weed obviously isn't your drug, but why make it illegal for others? Freedoms mean we can do anything we want to ourselves as long as it isn't harming others.


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    #18683894 - 08/09/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

The people commenting are all just potheads. Their opinions are hilarious and because of their perceptions, they are incompetent and blind when it comes to things that aren't neutral and superficial in nature.


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    #18684017 - 08/09/13 05:55 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Not everyone who posted are potheads, for example mio. What makes you think these posters are incompetent or blind when it comes to things that aren't neutral and superficial in nature?

Also you prefer LSA to LSD? That's strange to me ha.

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    #18684037 - 08/09/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

honestly this shit seems kinda made up.  Hey I gotta say one thing to this guy apparently he turned out all right and shit if pot was legal he may have never been introduced to heroin.  He went from pot to heroin no coke in the middle maybe.


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    #18684154 - 08/09/13 06:34 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

"this guy is a co-founder of a substance abuse facility. No doubt, a number of his clients are referred to the facility by court order. Legalizing marijuana would probably cripple his business. He's just another cog in the wheel of the money machine aka, the war on drugs."


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    #18684399 - 08/09/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

He says "know why you never see potheads out in public?"

Such a ridiculous statement. Obviously you see potheads out in public all the time. But you cant tell to look at them because they are normal people like everyone else. The idea that all potheads sit at home playing video games is absurd. They are occupying every position in society, and no one is the wiser.

Its like imagining that everyone who drinks alcohol is living under a bridge with no shoes and filthy matted hair.

The fact is that those rock bottom alcoholics are the only ones whose use of alcohol is obvious, but for every one of them there is a thousand who drink responsibly with no obvious signs that they do so.

There are pothead doctors, lawyers, engineers, scientists, politicians, athletes etc.

My god, Carl Sagan was a marijuana enthusiast. So was the most decorated Olympian in history.

It is such bigotry when people claim marijuana makes you an underachiever.

I have three university degrees, a college certificate, a full time job, and I have won over 40 000 dollars in scholarships, at least that much again in teaching and research contracts, and have won a highly competitive national academic award. I am also an athlete and have won gold medals in martial arts competitions. I have also written two theses and a book.

I did all of that while using marijuana daily. It sure didn't kill my motivation, and there are millions of high achieving potheads out there like me. And this guy sees them all the time, he just doesn't recognize it because he thinks all potheads wear tie dyed shirts and have dreadlocks and smell like bong water.

I honestly see this kind of anti-pot rhetoric as exactly equivalent to racism, sexism or homophobia.

Saying all potheads are lazy unmotivated slackers who do nothing but play video games is like saying all black people are crack dealers and eat watermelon and fried chicken, or all homosexuals walk around in cut off jean shorts with limp wrists and lisps and have promiscuous sex all day.

Sure, there is a small percentage of those groups who do match those stereotypes, but for every one that does there are 99 that don't.

Not all gay people walk around with limp wrists and lisps. You probably pass a hundred gay people every day and have no fucking idea they are gay because they look and act exactly like anyone else.

The same is true of potheads. For every one that matches your bigoted sterotype of what a marijuana user looks and acts like, there are dozens who you cant tell at all.

In my opinion stereotyping and discriminating against marijuana users has to be seen with the same scorn and disdain as any other type of stereotyping. It is no more accurate or appropriate to assume that all potheads are lazy than it is to assume all women are ditsy blondes or all black people are criminals or all gay people are promiscuous.

Its prejudiced, bigoted stereotyping, pure and simple, and it has to go.

The only reason you don't see potheads in public is because pot use is illegal so people have to conceal it, not because they are all at home in their basements.

Anyways, you guys all understand this, but this article is a load of horseshit, and marijuana users occupy every strata of society. They are often talented athletes, musicians, scientists, professionals etc.

Not to mention how many non-pot users are lazy slackers who play video games.


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    #18684427 - 08/09/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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    #18684685 - 08/09/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

So getting a feeling of euphoria, analgesia, relaxation, and possible enlightenment from naturally occurring plant matter is bad and overdosing on dangerous and addictive synthetic compounds trying to chase an impossibly elusive low and numbness is good? So much for everything we thought we learned about history, philosophy, ethics, and logic. But seriously, folks, the boogeyman, the pusher-man, Santa, the Easter bunny, and the dangers of smoking pot are all little fairy tales that parents tell their kids who, if they are smart, will grow up and learn that their parents were only going by the dogshit being smeared all over by the Nixon, Reagan, and Bush (H.W. and W.) campaigns in attempts to fuel their crooked Goldfoot money machine. Come the fuck on, folks! Just because one individual doesn't have enough discipline to say no to shooting horse and being a lazy deadbrained variety of stoner, doesn't mean the rest of us should be held accountable for his fuckups. Not to mention the fact that the son shouldn't have to carry the weight of his reformed addict father's actions. George Carlin said it best when he said "It's all bullshit and it's bad for you."


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: dextroacidsoul19]
    #18685200 - 08/09/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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The people commenting are all just potheads. Their opinions are hilarious and because of their perceptions, they are incompetent and blind when it comes to things that aren't neutral and superficial in nature.




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    #18685807 - 08/10/13 02:45 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

... At least 20 people I know make more than $150,000/year and smoke weed on a regular basis.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: Moonshoe]
    #18685822 - 08/10/13 03:07 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Walking in nature or going out while smoking is the most fun part for me of any smoking session, and reading/playing guitar is too - I enjoy reading books when smoking, much more than when not smoking (can concentrate about 50x better) :-)

I don't enjoy getting the couch lock on indica too often, although it can be fun too ;-)

Nothing like taking 5-6 joints for a walk in nature lol
just sit, relax, have a smoke

Sometimes we just cannot argue with stupid people

Weed is illegal here because the politican in charge says 'I don't want weed! weed is dangerous it ruins the brain, scientifically proven'

That's stupidity

Double blind, Peer review, Independent research anyone?
I'm pretty sure he doesn't know what that means

another problem is people being afraid of admitting they were wrong, do you ever see a politician admit he/she was wrong and change mind completely?

only happens in science
unfortunately politics is personal subjective opinions only

we need objective scientifically proven laws with tolerance in them
let science dictate our laws, and common sense

the media has too much control, the media is all the politicans care about, and they believe the media 100%
just look at salvia,mushrooms etc. getting banned (mushrooms recently in NL)

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    #18686107 - 08/10/13 07:22 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

The author is a walking, weak-willed stereotype.

The criminal defense lawyer on the video is about as bad.  All the people against legalization are the ones that stand to lose business if it is legalized.


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    #18686354 - 08/10/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Motivation is only gone only if you were already a lazy fuck




THis... Im a heavy smoker and I work my ass off everyday.... lazy poor witted ignorant fuckers should stay away from any drug

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    #18686487 - 08/10/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Motivation is only gone only if you were already a lazy fuck




THis... Im a heavy smoker and I work my ass off everyday.... lazy poor witted ignorant fuckers should stay away from any drug




Why would either of you assume that what happens to you, happens to all?

Seems rather presumptuous.

I happen to know hard workers who lose motivation when high. Yet, I don't automatically assume that all are the same.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18686699 - 08/10/13 11:02 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Your still blaming the drug for a human flaw.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: dark3st]
    #18686856 - 08/10/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

I'm saying it's not a flaw. It's a physical difference.

I'd say lumping people into a group that suits you is the flaw.


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    #18686867 - 08/10/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

sounds like OP is on probation or his momma took his weed


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: B_BOY]
    #18687444 - 08/10/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

This is an extended "think of the children" argument with a few sprinkles of "gateway drug," and a dash of "alcohol is ok because it's ok.  Trust me."



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Do you know why we don't see potheads out in public?




You do see them all the time, but unless they are smoking a joint at the moment you simply don't realize.  Care to try to say the same about drunks?

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And, just like that, the long and involved talk my wife and I had given our children about drugs was tossed out the window... Neither my wife nor I anticipated that our son would be stopped on the street by unscrupulous potheads petitioning outside of the local grocery store and being fed a line of rhetoric that went against what we were trying to teach him.





If an 'unscrupulous pothead' standing outside a grocery store with a clipboard (wait I thought they don't go out into public) can irreparably destroy all of the values you've raised your kid on, what kind of parent are you?  Little Johnny is starting to think for himself, and dad doesn't like it.  Who to blame?

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You fry your brain. That's why the patients I see in my treatment center call it "getting baked." Pot is all about getting really high.




Might be taking things a little too literally there bud?

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But, then I'd smoke some more and think, "Why bother?" . . . and, eventually, I started shooting heroin.




This guy has a natural propensity towards addiction that he doesn't want to take responsibility for.  He's lucky he started with pot and not alcohol.

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    #18687576 - 08/10/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

:whathesaid: And what the writer of the article fails to take into account is that "getting baked" is simply a phrase for cannabis use that stuck. Much like when he was "slamming", "shooting up", "chasing the dragon", and "banging" his heroin. The first step in effective communication, which the guy just doesn't seem to get, is recognizing key terms and nailing them down in a concise and logical manner. The writer seems to think that his interpretations of key and slang terms, respectively, are 100% the standard definitions, and that's just not the fucking case. There's a reason educational institutions once pushed language, especially English grammar and mechanics, so heavily. It was in an effort to keep things clear and keep peoples' jimmies from being rustled by a lack of clarity.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #18687895 - 08/10/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Honestly I could care less if it affects motivation or if it's bad for you. That doesn't give the government the right to tell us what we can or can't put in our bodies. We can't stop users. They almost always figure out how to do their habit and still get by, end up in therapy, or quit on their own like these posters. They should not even be near jail. This argument will be used for every drug. Idc what drug it is. It shouldn't be illegal. I'd rather have to overcome an addiction over an addiction and a criminal record.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: Mad Season]
    #18687983 - 08/10/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Very true! Kicking is hard, but it's doable. Having to give up something that allows you to feel at least more comfortable in your own skin or that you genuinely enjoy, while having to contend with a rap sheet FOR trying to enjoy yourself is bullet of a much harsher caliber and a dead on trajectory. That shit keeps a guy way down for many moons, especially if he can't get high.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #18688600 - 08/10/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

lol look at the bald dudes mouth during the entire video.

it looks likes hes tweaking or just did a few lines

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: Mad Season]
    #18689680 - 08/11/13 12:53 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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:whathesaid: And what the writer of the article fails to take into account is that "getting baked" is simply a phrase for cannabis use that stuck. Much like when he was "slamming", "shooting up", "chasing the dragon", and "banging" his heroin. The first step in effective communication, which the guy just doesn't seem to get, is recognizing key terms and nailing them down in a concise and logical manner. The writer seems to think that his interpretations of key and slang terms, respectively, are 100% the standard definitions, and that's just not the fucking case. There's a reason educational institutions once pushed language, especially English grammar and mechanics, so heavily. It was in an effort to keep things clear and keep peoples' jimmies from being rustled by a lack of clarity.



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Honestly I could care less if it affects motivation or if it's bad for you. That doesn't give the government the right to tell us what we can or can't put in our bodies. We can't stop users. They almost always figure out how to do their habit and still get by, end up in therapy, or quit on their own like these posters. They should not even be near jail. This argument will be used for every drug. Idc what drug it is. It shouldn't be illegal. I'd rather have to overcome an addiction over an addiction and a criminal record.




There are so many anti-drug laws which implore the paradigm that all drug takers are willing putty in the hands of drug dealers.  SUCH the oppposite has been shown in an astounding number of cases that I can't believe we still have such laws on the books.

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: JCSuperstar]
    #18689954 - 08/11/13 02:57 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry, my dearest potheads, but the guy has a point. It's in this paragraph:

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Supporters of marijuana say that marijuana should be legalized because old people and women and children who have ailments like glaucoma or cancer or intractable seizures need it. [...] But we don't live in a perfect world, and you don't need a Ph.D. to see that the spirit of that argument is being exploited by people who aren't using the marijuana for medical reasons at all; they are using it to get high.




I've mentioned this before and I very much agree with what this guy says above: mj's medical uses are used as an argument to legalize it, and the majority of those in favor of legalizing are primarily interested in its recreational use.

I think a debate on the legalization of drugs is fine - great, actually. It should be held worldwide, and in every country. It would be even greater if that debate was about the real issue: the balance between personal liberty and collective health and economic performance of society. Marijuana's medical uses should be included in that discussion, but they should not become the umbrella held up by a few true medical mj patients so that the regular stoners can cower under it. Let the stoners fight their own fight and win it using their own arguments.

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: koraks]
    #18690009 - 08/11/13 03:35 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

ya, but come on now. When there is a good reason to step in the right direction, adding that people will ruin a thing for the rest of us is circular;

Author on alcohol:
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But we can't turn the clock back on that one because it's too embedded in our society.




The person advocating the actions of prohibition should have the burden of persuading people of the desired outcome. The people being deprived should not have to loose their voice because they lack cancer, glaucoma, or some 'legitimate' basis to ingest/posses mj. The fact that they might one day should be enough.

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: rodfarva]
    #18690079 - 08/11/13 04:23 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Legalizing mj because of its medical properties would be the wrong course of action, I think. It's doing the right thing but for the wrong reasons; it's lawmaking on the basis of flawed reasoning - and that's exactly the thing that should be repaired, instead of being exacerbated.

The right argument would indeed be that the use of cannabis is embedded already in society and keeping it illegal creates a situation in which law enforcement is expected to act on normal behavior of the population. I think that's an undesirable situation, and that should be the foundation for legalization of certain drugs. The fact that medical patients win too that way is nice and positive collateral.

I think that's the way it should be, and not the other way around. Otherwise you'd still have a shitload of recreational users piggy-backing mj patients, which from an ethical viewpoint is an undesirable situation.

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: koraks]
    #18690145 - 08/11/13 05:35 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

you may or may not realize laws/lawmaking don't work that way.

They just don't.

Step uno is to get MJ removed from schedule 1, and put someplace more useful.

People have challenged the constitutional basis of prohibition, the wording of the laws, etc.
Courts have upheld almost all of them.

The way to move laws now seems to be to chip away at them.
Using popular leverage to nudge the process is the only tactic that seems to have a chance of creating momentum.

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: lessismore]
    #18690261 - 08/11/13 07:08 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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mio said:
Yup I've always been lazy, the king of procrastination,always do everything in last second through my whole life, bad habit :-)

So weed wasn't a good idea for me everyday , I don't blame it




you blame yourself. & you should. for imbibing with these plant technologies without proper understanding.

im so sick of people discussing a-motivational syndrome.

when nearly all tokers depend on street indica (degraded thc)

grow your own sativas. if you wanna act like everyone else, be a stupid lazy stoner cliche. be my guest.

Indica is for pain relief & medicinal healing (for the most part)
All of you fuckin basers , with your addictive attitudes, your missing the mental clarity & physical drive mainly found in sativa varieties...

i blame you. know your substance.

Grow your own.

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: treesniper119]
    #18691330 - 08/11/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Indica is for pain relief & medicinal healing (for the most part)
All of you fuckin basers , with your addictive attitudes, your missing the mental clarity & physical drive mainly found in sativa varieties...




I smoked for years and years. I would always try to get sativas as I really enjoyed them and their effects a lot more than Indica. Anyone who knew me would say; "that guy is a hard worker, always on the go, always learning, he is driven". This dude has not watched tv in a year! These days I can't smoke as much as I would like due to drug testing at work, but I can already tell that I naturally have less motivation than before. I still work hard, and get the job done well, but that edge that I felt I had, that little extra competitive nature is no longer there.

So for me the "lazy on the couch pothead" stereotype never fit until I stopped smoking.

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: el_barto]
    #18691811 - 08/11/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Head trip.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: Menalaus]
    #18691820 - 08/11/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

I recant. The pot head fuck brains actually retaliated.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18691855 - 08/11/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

:facepalm3:


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: dextroacidsoul19]
    #18691950 - 08/11/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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I recant. The pot head fuck brains actually retaliated.



The sober fuckhead actually is more retarded than a bob Marley obsessed stoner.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: Mad Season]
    #18692125 - 08/11/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Its really easy not to be lazy when getting high. All you do is get high than do something productive.

For me the marijuana experience enhances activities such as reading, writing and exercise.

So I puff the herb in my vaporizer, sit down and crack a textbook and read. Or I puff and write an essay. Or I puff and then work out, do push ups or chin ups or go for a run, or puff and draw, or puff and write a creative story, or puff and clean my house.

I don't understand where the laziness comes in. I mean yeah, I do enjoy puffing and watching a show, or puffing and playing a video game, but how does that make me any more lazy than all the people who watch TV and play video games without puffing?

If your lazy your lazy. If your productive your productive. If your high your high. You can be high and lazy or sober and lazy, high and productive or sober and productive.

Also, laziness can be just another word for relaxed, peaceful and content.

Frenzied activity is not always good. Stress is bad for you. Many times it is healthier to chill out and relax rather than always on the go. So to say that weed can make you lazy is at best half the truth, it can also bring a hyper active person back to a more healthy level or make a stressed person relaxed.

A lot of people's activity is unnescessary and counter productive. Most of us in  Northern/Western world could stand to chill out a bit and stop running around like chickens with our heads cut off. Marijuana can restore us to sanity, to relaxation, to peace. And they try and call that "amotivational syndrome".

You know who else had Amotivational syndrome?



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