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OfflineCamwritesgonzo
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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: Mad Season]
    #18687983 - 08/10/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Very true! Kicking is hard, but it's doable. Having to give up something that allows you to feel at least more comfortable in your own skin or that you genuinely enjoy, while having to contend with a rap sheet FOR trying to enjoy yourself is bullet of a much harsher caliber and a dead on trajectory. That shit keeps a guy way down for many moons, especially if he can't get high.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #18688600 - 08/10/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

lol look at the bald dudes mouth during the entire video.

it looks likes hes tweaking or just did a few lines

he cant stop moving his mouth even when hes not talking.

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: Mad Season]
    #18689680 - 08/11/13 12:53 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Camwritesgonzo said:
:whathesaid: And what the writer of the article fails to take into account is that "getting baked" is simply a phrase for cannabis use that stuck. Much like when he was "slamming", "shooting up", "chasing the dragon", and "banging" his heroin. The first step in effective communication, which the guy just doesn't seem to get, is recognizing key terms and nailing them down in a concise and logical manner. The writer seems to think that his interpretations of key and slang terms, respectively, are 100% the standard definitions, and that's just not the fucking case. There's a reason educational institutions once pushed language, especially English grammar and mechanics, so heavily. It was in an effort to keep things clear and keep peoples' jimmies from being rustled by a lack of clarity.



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Honestly I could care less if it affects motivation or if it's bad for you. That doesn't give the government the right to tell us what we can or can't put in our bodies. We can't stop users. They almost always figure out how to do their habit and still get by, end up in therapy, or quit on their own like these posters. They should not even be near jail. This argument will be used for every drug. Idc what drug it is. It shouldn't be illegal. I'd rather have to overcome an addiction over an addiction and a criminal record.




There are so many anti-drug laws which implore the paradigm that all drug takers are willing putty in the hands of drug dealers.  SUCH the oppposite has been shown in an astounding number of cases that I can't believe we still have such laws on the books.

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: JCSuperstar]
    #18689954 - 08/11/13 02:57 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry, my dearest potheads, but the guy has a point. It's in this paragraph:

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Supporters of marijuana say that marijuana should be legalized because old people and women and children who have ailments like glaucoma or cancer or intractable seizures need it. [...] But we don't live in a perfect world, and you don't need a Ph.D. to see that the spirit of that argument is being exploited by people who aren't using the marijuana for medical reasons at all; they are using it to get high.




I've mentioned this before and I very much agree with what this guy says above: mj's medical uses are used as an argument to legalize it, and the majority of those in favor of legalizing are primarily interested in its recreational use.

I think a debate on the legalization of drugs is fine - great, actually. It should be held worldwide, and in every country. It would be even greater if that debate was about the real issue: the balance between personal liberty and collective health and economic performance of society. Marijuana's medical uses should be included in that discussion, but they should not become the umbrella held up by a few true medical mj patients so that the regular stoners can cower under it. Let the stoners fight their own fight and win it using their own arguments.

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: koraks]
    #18690009 - 08/11/13 03:35 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

ya, but come on now. When there is a good reason to step in the right direction, adding that people will ruin a thing for the rest of us is circular;

Author on alcohol:
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But we can't turn the clock back on that one because it's too embedded in our society.




The person advocating the actions of prohibition should have the burden of persuading people of the desired outcome. The people being deprived should not have to loose their voice because they lack cancer, glaucoma, or some 'legitimate' basis to ingest/posses mj. The fact that they might one day should be enough.

... ex: argue marijuana is not embedded in our society.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: rodfarva]
    #18690079 - 08/11/13 04:23 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Legalizing mj because of its medical properties would be the wrong course of action, I think. It's doing the right thing but for the wrong reasons; it's lawmaking on the basis of flawed reasoning - and that's exactly the thing that should be repaired, instead of being exacerbated.

The right argument would indeed be that the use of cannabis is embedded already in society and keeping it illegal creates a situation in which law enforcement is expected to act on normal behavior of the population. I think that's an undesirable situation, and that should be the foundation for legalization of certain drugs. The fact that medical patients win too that way is nice and positive collateral.

I think that's the way it should be, and not the other way around. Otherwise you'd still have a shitload of recreational users piggy-backing mj patients, which from an ethical viewpoint is an undesirable situation.

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: koraks]
    #18690145 - 08/11/13 05:35 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

you may or may not realize laws/lawmaking don't work that way.

They just don't.

Step uno is to get MJ removed from schedule 1, and put someplace more useful.

People have challenged the constitutional basis of prohibition, the wording of the laws, etc.
Courts have upheld almost all of them.

The way to move laws now seems to be to chip away at them.
Using popular leverage to nudge the process is the only tactic that seems to have a chance of creating momentum.

Things your grandma can go along with are the only ones that really work in the voting booth.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: lessismore]
    #18690261 - 08/11/13 07:08 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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mio said:
Yup I've always been lazy, the king of procrastination,always do everything in last second through my whole life, bad habit :-)

So weed wasn't a good idea for me everyday , I don't blame it




you blame yourself. & you should. for imbibing with these plant technologies without proper understanding.

im so sick of people discussing a-motivational syndrome.

when nearly all tokers depend on street indica (degraded thc)

grow your own sativas. if you wanna act like everyone else, be a stupid lazy stoner cliche. be my guest.

Indica is for pain relief & medicinal healing (for the most part)
All of you fuckin basers , with your addictive attitudes, your missing the mental clarity & physical drive mainly found in sativa varieties...

i blame you. know your substance.

Grow your own.

pm me for a list of the best mental highs, articulate highs, mathmatically intelligent highs, blissfulspiritual highs, etc


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: treesniper119]
    #18691330 - 08/11/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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treesniper119 said:
Indica is for pain relief & medicinal healing (for the most part)
All of you fuckin basers , with your addictive attitudes, your missing the mental clarity & physical drive mainly found in sativa varieties...




I smoked for years and years. I would always try to get sativas as I really enjoyed them and their effects a lot more than Indica. Anyone who knew me would say; "that guy is a hard worker, always on the go, always learning, he is driven". This dude has not watched tv in a year! These days I can't smoke as much as I would like due to drug testing at work, but I can already tell that I naturally have less motivation than before. I still work hard, and get the job done well, but that edge that I felt I had, that little extra competitive nature is no longer there.

So for me the "lazy on the couch pothead" stereotype never fit until I stopped smoking.

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: el_barto]
    #18691811 - 08/11/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Head trip.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: Menalaus]
    #18691820 - 08/11/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

I recant. The pot head fuck brains actually retaliated.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18691855 - 08/11/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

:facepalm3:


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: dextroacidsoul19]
    #18691950 - 08/11/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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I recant. The pot head fuck brains actually retaliated.



The sober fuckhead actually is more retarded than a bob Marley obsessed stoner.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: Mad Season]
    #18692125 - 08/11/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Its really easy not to be lazy when getting high. All you do is get high than do something productive.

For me the marijuana experience enhances activities such as reading, writing and exercise.

So I puff the herb in my vaporizer, sit down and crack a textbook and read. Or I puff and write an essay. Or I puff and then work out, do push ups or chin ups or go for a run, or puff and draw, or puff and write a creative story, or puff and clean my house.

I don't understand where the laziness comes in. I mean yeah, I do enjoy puffing and watching a show, or puffing and playing a video game, but how does that make me any more lazy than all the people who watch TV and play video games without puffing?

If your lazy your lazy. If your productive your productive. If your high your high. You can be high and lazy or sober and lazy, high and productive or sober and productive.

Also, laziness can be just another word for relaxed, peaceful and content.

Frenzied activity is not always good. Stress is bad for you. Many times it is healthier to chill out and relax rather than always on the go. So to say that weed can make you lazy is at best half the truth, it can also bring a hyper active person back to a more healthy level or make a stressed person relaxed.

A lot of people's activity is unnescessary and counter productive. Most of us in  Northern/Western world could stand to chill out a bit and stop running around like chickens with our heads cut off. Marijuana can restore us to sanity, to relaxation, to peace. And they try and call that "amotivational syndrome".

You know who else had Amotivational syndrome?



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