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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: dark3st] * 1
    #18683777 - 08/09/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah. So every pothead sits at home lazy as fuck smoking weed? That's what you're saying? JUST BECAUSE IT HAPPENED TO YOU DOESN'T MEAN IT HAPPENS TO EVERYONE. Seriously if you're that lazy that you can't function high. Weed obviously isn't your drug, but why make it illegal for others? Freedoms mean we can do anything we want to ourselves as long as it isn't harming others.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: JCSuperstar] * 1
    #18683894 - 08/09/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

The people commenting are all just potheads. Their opinions are hilarious and because of their perceptions, they are incompetent and blind when it comes to things that aren't neutral and superficial in nature.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: dextroacidsoul19] * 1
    #18684017 - 08/09/13 05:55 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Not everyone who posted are potheads, for example mio. What makes you think these posters are incompetent or blind when it comes to things that aren't neutral and superficial in nature?

Also you prefer LSA to LSD? That's strange to me ha.

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: el_barto]
    #18684037 - 08/09/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

honestly this shit seems kinda made up.  Hey I gotta say one thing to this guy apparently he turned out all right and shit if pot was legal he may have never been introduced to heroin.  He went from pot to heroin no coke in the middle maybe.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: bangpowboomers] * 2
    #18684154 - 08/09/13 06:34 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

"this guy is a co-founder of a substance abuse facility. No doubt, a number of his clients are referred to the facility by court order. Legalizing marijuana would probably cripple his business. He's just another cog in the wheel of the money machine aka, the war on drugs."


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: JCSuperstar] * 4
    #18684399 - 08/09/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

He says "know why you never see potheads out in public?"

Such a ridiculous statement. Obviously you see potheads out in public all the time. But you cant tell to look at them because they are normal people like everyone else. The idea that all potheads sit at home playing video games is absurd. They are occupying every position in society, and no one is the wiser.

Its like imagining that everyone who drinks alcohol is living under a bridge with no shoes and filthy matted hair.

The fact is that those rock bottom alcoholics are the only ones whose use of alcohol is obvious, but for every one of them there is a thousand who drink responsibly with no obvious signs that they do so.

There are pothead doctors, lawyers, engineers, scientists, politicians, athletes etc.

My god, Carl Sagan was a marijuana enthusiast. So was the most decorated Olympian in history.

It is such bigotry when people claim marijuana makes you an underachiever.

I have three university degrees, a college certificate, a full time job, and I have won over 40 000 dollars in scholarships, at least that much again in teaching and research contracts, and have won a highly competitive national academic award. I am also an athlete and have won gold medals in martial arts competitions. I have also written two theses and a book.

I did all of that while using marijuana daily. It sure didn't kill my motivation, and there are millions of high achieving potheads out there like me. And this guy sees them all the time, he just doesn't recognize it because he thinks all potheads wear tie dyed shirts and have dreadlocks and smell like bong water.

I honestly see this kind of anti-pot rhetoric as exactly equivalent to racism, sexism or homophobia.

Saying all potheads are lazy unmotivated slackers who do nothing but play video games is like saying all black people are crack dealers and eat watermelon and fried chicken, or all homosexuals walk around in cut off jean shorts with limp wrists and lisps and have promiscuous sex all day.

Sure, there is a small percentage of those groups who do match those stereotypes, but for every one that does there are 99 that don't.

Not all gay people walk around with limp wrists and lisps. You probably pass a hundred gay people every day and have no fucking idea they are gay because they look and act exactly like anyone else.

The same is true of potheads. For every one that matches your bigoted sterotype of what a marijuana user looks and acts like, there are dozens who you cant tell at all.

In my opinion stereotyping and discriminating against marijuana users has to be seen with the same scorn and disdain as any other type of stereotyping. It is no more accurate or appropriate to assume that all potheads are lazy than it is to assume all women are ditsy blondes or all black people are criminals or all gay people are promiscuous.

Its prejudiced, bigoted stereotyping, pure and simple, and it has to go.

The only reason you don't see potheads in public is because pot use is illegal so people have to conceal it, not because they are all at home in their basements.

Anyways, you guys all understand this, but this article is a load of horseshit, and marijuana users occupy every strata of society. They are often talented athletes, musicians, scientists, professionals etc.

Not to mention how many non-pot users are lazy slackers who play video games.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: afrogus] * 1
    #18684427 - 08/09/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: JCSuperstar] * 1
    #18684685 - 08/09/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

So getting a feeling of euphoria, analgesia, relaxation, and possible enlightenment from naturally occurring plant matter is bad and overdosing on dangerous and addictive synthetic compounds trying to chase an impossibly elusive low and numbness is good? So much for everything we thought we learned about history, philosophy, ethics, and logic. But seriously, folks, the boogeyman, the pusher-man, Santa, the Easter bunny, and the dangers of smoking pot are all little fairy tales that parents tell their kids who, if they are smart, will grow up and learn that their parents were only going by the dogshit being smeared all over by the Nixon, Reagan, and Bush (H.W. and W.) campaigns in attempts to fuel their crooked Goldfoot money machine. Come the fuck on, folks! Just because one individual doesn't have enough discipline to say no to shooting horse and being a lazy deadbrained variety of stoner, doesn't mean the rest of us should be held accountable for his fuckups. Not to mention the fact that the son shouldn't have to carry the weight of his reformed addict father's actions. George Carlin said it best when he said "It's all bullshit and it's bad for you."


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: dextroacidsoul19]
    #18685200 - 08/09/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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The people commenting are all just potheads. Their opinions are hilarious and because of their perceptions, they are incompetent and blind when it comes to things that aren't neutral and superficial in nature.




Your rhetoric couldn't be more ironic

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: Menalaus]
    #18685807 - 08/10/13 02:45 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

... At least 20 people I know make more than $150,000/year and smoke weed on a regular basis.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: Moonshoe]
    #18685822 - 08/10/13 03:07 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Walking in nature or going out while smoking is the most fun part for me of any smoking session, and reading/playing guitar is too - I enjoy reading books when smoking, much more than when not smoking (can concentrate about 50x better) :-)

I don't enjoy getting the couch lock on indica too often, although it can be fun too ;-)

Nothing like taking 5-6 joints for a walk in nature lol
just sit, relax, have a smoke

Sometimes we just cannot argue with stupid people

Weed is illegal here because the politican in charge says 'I don't want weed! weed is dangerous it ruins the brain, scientifically proven'

That's stupidity

Double blind, Peer review, Independent research anyone?
I'm pretty sure he doesn't know what that means

another problem is people being afraid of admitting they were wrong, do you ever see a politician admit he/she was wrong and change mind completely?

only happens in science
unfortunately politics is personal subjective opinions only

we need objective scientifically proven laws with tolerance in them
let science dictate our laws, and common sense

the media has too much control, the media is all the politicans care about, and they believe the media 100%
just look at salvia,mushrooms etc. getting banned (mushrooms recently in NL)

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: lessismore] * 1
    #18686107 - 08/10/13 07:22 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

The author is a walking, weak-willed stereotype.

The criminal defense lawyer on the video is about as bad.  All the people against legalization are the ones that stand to lose business if it is legalized.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: dark3st]
    #18686354 - 08/10/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Motivation is only gone only if you were already a lazy fuck




THis... Im a heavy smoker and I work my ass off everyday.... lazy poor witted ignorant fuckers should stay away from any drug

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: AIRDOG] * 1
    #18686487 - 08/10/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Motivation is only gone only if you were already a lazy fuck




THis... Im a heavy smoker and I work my ass off everyday.... lazy poor witted ignorant fuckers should stay away from any drug




Why would either of you assume that what happens to you, happens to all?

Seems rather presumptuous.

I happen to know hard workers who lose motivation when high. Yet, I don't automatically assume that all are the same.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18686699 - 08/10/13 11:02 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Your still blaming the drug for a human flaw.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: dark3st]
    #18686856 - 08/10/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

I'm saying it's not a flaw. It's a physical difference.

I'd say lumping people into a group that suits you is the flaw.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: dark3st]
    #18686867 - 08/10/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

sounds like OP is on probation or his momma took his weed


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: B_BOY]
    #18687444 - 08/10/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

This is an extended "think of the children" argument with a few sprinkles of "gateway drug," and a dash of "alcohol is ok because it's ok.  Trust me."



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Do you know why we don't see potheads out in public?




You do see them all the time, but unless they are smoking a joint at the moment you simply don't realize.  Care to try to say the same about drunks?

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And, just like that, the long and involved talk my wife and I had given our children about drugs was tossed out the window... Neither my wife nor I anticipated that our son would be stopped on the street by unscrupulous potheads petitioning outside of the local grocery store and being fed a line of rhetoric that went against what we were trying to teach him.





If an 'unscrupulous pothead' standing outside a grocery store with a clipboard (wait I thought they don't go out into public) can irreparably destroy all of the values you've raised your kid on, what kind of parent are you?  Little Johnny is starting to think for himself, and dad doesn't like it.  Who to blame?

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You fry your brain. That's why the patients I see in my treatment center call it "getting baked." Pot is all about getting really high.




Might be taking things a little too literally there bud?

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But, then I'd smoke some more and think, "Why bother?" . . . and, eventually, I started shooting heroin.




This guy has a natural propensity towards addiction that he doesn't want to take responsibility for.  He's lucky he started with pot and not alcohol.

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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: dokunai]
    #18687576 - 08/10/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

:whathesaid: And what the writer of the article fails to take into account is that "getting baked" is simply a phrase for cannabis use that stuck. Much like when he was "slamming", "shooting up", "chasing the dragon", and "banging" his heroin. The first step in effective communication, which the guy just doesn't seem to get, is recognizing key terms and nailing them down in a concise and logical manner. The writer seems to think that his interpretations of key and slang terms, respectively, are 100% the standard definitions, and that's just not the fucking case. There's a reason educational institutions once pushed language, especially English grammar and mechanics, so heavily. It was in an effort to keep things clear and keep peoples' jimmies from being rustled by a lack of clarity.


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Re: This Shhhhh Makes Me Sick***Legalizing pot isn't about medicine, it's about getting high [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #18687895 - 08/10/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Honestly I could care less if it affects motivation or if it's bad for you. That doesn't give the government the right to tell us what we can or can't put in our bodies. We can't stop users. They almost always figure out how to do their habit and still get by, end up in therapy, or quit on their own like these posters. They should not even be near jail. This argument will be used for every drug. Idc what drug it is. It shouldn't be illegal. I'd rather have to overcome an addiction over an addiction and a criminal record.


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