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In Switzerland, Marijuana Use Helps Keep Prisons Calm and Safe
    #18682774 - 08/09/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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AlterNet / By Kristen Gwynne

In Switzerland, Marijuana Use Helps Keep Prisons Calm and Safe
The Swiss prison guards agree that marijuana use among inmates is a good thing.

August 9, 2013  | 

A recent study published in the  International Journal of Drug Policy estimates that 50 to 80 percent of inmates in Swiss prisons use marijuana. Prison staff told researchers they found marijuana to be a relatively safe drug and that cracking down on consumption would have more negative effects than positive ones.

Surveys of detainees and guards revealed similar opinions on marijuana use, with both groups describing the effects of marijuana as analgesic, calming and a way to decrease the traumatic prison experience.  Negative consequences included sleepiness, social isolation, and decreased perception of danger. But survey participants also said that more restrictive regulation could increase fear, trafficking, and a shift to harder drug use.

While prisoners estimated that up to 80 percent of prisoners use marijuana, guards reported a lower estimate at 50 percent. Read more about it here.

Kristen Gwynne is an associate editor and drug policy reporter at AlterNet.  Follow her on Twitter: @KristenGwynne

http://www.alternet.org/drugs/switzerland-marijuana-use-helps-keep-prisons-calm-and-safe


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Re: In Switzerland, Marijuana Use Helps Keep Prisons Calm and Safe [Re: Simplepowa]
    #18682782 - 08/09/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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A recent study published in the  International Journal of Drug Policy estimates that 50 to 80 percent of inmates in Swiss prisons use marijuana.




If I were to go to prison somewhere it would probably be a country like switzerland or norway, they do prisons right.


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Re: In Switzerland, Marijuana Use Helps Keep Prisons Calm and Safe [Re: The Vapor]
    #18682820 - 08/09/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

heck yea...but the only reason i would ever really be put in prison would prob be drug related.


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Re: In Switzerland, Marijuana Use Helps Keep Prisons Calm and Safe [Re: redeyesmj]
    #18683132 - 08/09/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

give them what they want, less problems :thumbup:

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Re: In Switzerland, Marijuana Use Helps Keep Prisons Calm and Safe [Re: Ogla]
    #18683788 - 08/09/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

haha thats awesome!

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Re: In Switzerland, Marijuana Use Helps Keep Prisons Calm and Safe [Re: weshroom]
    #18684571 - 08/09/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

You think Castro the kidnapper or some serial killer deserves pot? I disagree they do it right over there when it comes to violent crime. I think the 1000 year sentances the USA gives to the real monsters in real prisons (not country clubs) is a more fitting punishment. Outside of drug laws I don't have a problem with US justice. I know medical patients who can't afford weed, why should criminals get to smoke?

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Re: In Switzerland, Marijuana Use Helps Keep Prisons Calm and Safe [Re: my3rdeye]
    #18688016 - 08/10/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

I honestly think that if your in jail the point is to become uncomfortable and learn from your mistake (though proven not to be as efficient as people think) they should do it in a way where you get serve x years then the next x years you get to choose to smoke or not.  Might help them cope better when getting out.


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Re: In Switzerland, Marijuana Use Helps Keep Prisons Calm and Safe [Re: my3rdeye]
    #18690381 - 08/11/13 08:07 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Prison is for separating the crappy people out of society. Quit being so fire and brimstone.

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Re: In Switzerland, Marijuana Use Helps Keep Prisons Calm and Safe [Re: Konyap]
    #18690906 - 08/11/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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my3rdeye said:
You think Castro the kidnapper or some serial killer deserves pot? I disagree they do it right over there when it comes to violent crime. I think the 1000 year sentances the USA gives to the real monsters in real prisons (not country clubs) is a more fitting punishment. Outside of drug laws I don't have a problem with US justice. I know medical patients who can't afford weed, why should criminals get to smoke?






No, I don't think a person like that necessarily "deserves" pot. However, I don't think it's a matter of what they "deserve" or not. It's a matter of keeping them calm so there are less fights or disruptions for the staff. If it accomplishes that, it may not be a terrible idea, even if it means giving a scumbag an hour or two of enjoyment every day.





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Prison is for separating the crappy people out of society. Quit being so fire and brimstone.






This. Very much this. And thank you for seeing it. If I hadn't been here for so long, I might be shocked that shroomery members could actually have such a backwards, old-world, ineffective, archaic Judeo-Christian modeled "you must kneel on rice and broomsticks and pray the sin away" view of prisons. (Then again, the number of "conservative" trolls seems to have grown here, like many other places on the net, in the last few years... but I digress....)


If harsh conditions and treatment in prisons as "punishment" worked as a deterrent to crime, the US would have some of the lowest rates of crime, and especially criminal recidivism in the world. We all know that's not the case. In fact, our system seems to encourage and breed the opposite.


So if harsh treatment of prisoners is not evidence based, then what is it based in? And what for those who, because of life sentences, have little to nothing to be "rehabilitated" for?


Spite? Hate? Vengeance...?


And at that point, what is it, exactly, that's separating us from those we claim deserve lengthy terms of harsh treatment, if not a little "Christian" mercy?



Personally, i think we should have a model in place that truly focuses on growth and rehabilitation. But then whose pain would there be to quench the thirst of the "good christian" mob, for whom nothing will suffice, but the pain of another human being who they see as less deserving then themselves...?


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